Problems with "30 video downloads in 144 hours" :(

someoneX

petermc a) It's 150 only if you micro-manage your downloads and don't miss a single day. The counter for a 144 hour period only starts with your first download, so you have to make sure, that you download your first file on that specific day. Imposed micro-management and FOMO is not a pleasant user experience.

b) It's not the rest of my life, but the lifetime of SLR or even worse the time until the scene gets removed for some reason. I hope my life lasts longer than the other two factors.

c) It's always a bad idea to apply your own usage behavior to other users. As a customer, what is your agenda if you feel you need to defend restrictions by a company?

petermc

someoneX I’m not defending the company, I have no vested interest in doing so. I criticise their content a lot. I’m just saying most people don’t download 150 scenes per month, it’s a tiny fraction of the membership that this affects. I can’t believe that people like more than 150 scenes per month so much that they have to download and keep them. When do you have time to watch that many scenes?

They aren’t going to change their minds so you either suck it up or you cancel. There’s no point starting up endless threads discussing something which has already been discussed to death and been closed down numerous times.

The pizza analogy is not remotely similar. It would be more relevant if you paid a monthly subscription to your pizza delivery service which allowed you to order up to 100 pizzas per month and they then reduced it to 50 per month as 99% of their customers order less than 50 per month and some of the 1% who order more are likely sharing their pizza with multiple other households.

tomjet77

I'm in agreement that the changing of policies is complete garbage and will be taking my membership elsewhere when this subscription is done. For those of us that have to download instead of stream it really sucks. Some of the previews look great, but the actual video (or girl) is not what you've expected and then boom.... one of your downloads is gone!

It's also a bummer that you don't get credit for times when you don't download. I was recently on a 2 week trip with no downloads at all and I still got hit with the hard limit as soon as i got back.

Crappy policy to start with, worse that they change the yardsticks whenever they feel like it.

tomjet77

Axxipiter
Similar boat here, seems like the way they measure the time isn't accurate/right....

someoneX

petermc You once again apply your own usage behavior to other users. This time you even go one step further and accuse us of piracy or account sharing.

We don't want to stream below industry standard (30Mbps for 8K videos is less than any other major studio uses) in DeoVR/SLR and download only a few favorites - we want to download videos in better quality and use our preferred player - especially after streaming with that player was actively blocked by SLR by removing the API access. In some cases streaming is not even an option, because the connection to SLR servers is not good enough from the users location.

We also don't want to be forced into a certain usage pattern in order to squeeze the maximum number of downloads out of the restrictions. And we do not want existing contracts/agreements to be unilaterally changed to our disadvantage.

argyle43

oh my god, just kill me now

If you’re really going to be accurate then it’s more like you subscribed to pizza but are now being bullied into streaming the pizza into your mouth rather than taking it out of the box piece by piece, but the ratio of distasteful pizza over hot pizza keeps increasing and not only that but the original brand is now being produced in a fancy new oven that all the other parlors bought too except this one now cooks pizza that feels a little too large in your mouth and tastes a bit blurry and can only be eaten off of the latest plates 🍕

argyle43

someoneX we also don’t want our pizza delivery analogies distorted and ruined. the originals were working just fine, thank you very much.

justsomedude101

I fully expect this thread to continue on since there's a lot of strong opinions, but I'll mention it since it's been a little while: SLR is a subscription service. If you feel like it's a fair shake for the price, then great! You can subscribe and enjoy.

If you feel like it's not worth the price, then you can choose to not subscribe and find another site/service that is more to your personal liking.

But since I see a few mentions of piracy - if you don't want to subscribe to SLR then at least subscribe to the individual studios. No one who is pirating content should think they're Robin Hood in this scenario.

someoneX

justsomedude101 At the moment SLR is still worth if for me for the smaller studios and for studios that have even worse download policies. I'm talking about SinsVR - those jokers want $20 to allow 1440p streaming and 5 downloads per month.

I also have lifetime subs to 7 sites - I doubt the pirates will bother discussing here in this thread - they don't have to care about those topics. That's the sad reality.

argyle43

here and at a few of the individual studios too
I like it here. I’ll stay 😉🍕

argyle43

someoneX I remember the owner talking in the comments back during Sins 1.0 — they were barely breaking even then. He left for awhile, and returned with 2.0 and I subbed immediately because I loved the 1.0 content and wanted to support him. He took his themes into areas that are not for me so I canceled. If I could venture a best guess, he’s still moving the levers trying to figure out how to be profitable. It just isn’t easy to do this well.

someoneX

argyle43 I like their content, but can't support them, because 5 download/month would "never" allow me to download every video I want. Maybe they are gone again before I can even get half of the videos at that rate.

argyle43

someoneX I very nearly rejoined when I saw this scene in SLR upcoming and wanted to see if it had already dropped on main site…

and then I saw that this delicious slice of double creamy pie had just dropped and I was frothing at the mouth to join…

but saw the same lousy pricing for squat, and the higher tier made no mention of downloads whatsoever, but did offer full res streaming so my dick was saying do it, do it… it’s Alissa Foxy ffs!! But I could see no way to stream the trailer in VR through DEO so eventually I gave up. The guy is still fumbling in the dark trying to shoot great porn and run a working business. The business end is still a mess.

So ya, I’ll have to wait to see if those goodies ever find their way here. The threesome is gone from upcoming scenes now 😕

Fortunado15

What I find funny is that there is even a thread about this. SLR is in a UNIQUE position to be THE THING. Right now they kind of are…besides @doublevr cutting the legs out from under themselves in every possible social media situation, in every possible interaction with the public. Frankly @Rakly3 is working towards that model lately.

Do you want to see a real open discussion? Go visit POVR’s forums. They talk about SLR and and everyone else and there is open discussion. Not an owner posting pie charts telling us all how we use/download things and therefore limiting allowed downloads, and then trying to gaslight everybody into agreeing with him.

Just my opinion.

MozzerllaRick

This limit is absolutely brutal. It is so frustrating to hit the limit, then the next day a video comes out I want to see, but I have to wait 6 days before I can download it. Streaming is cool and all, but my internet is too slow, so I like to "download the shit of SLR" so I can actually enjoy the videos. I keep the ones I like and delete the rest. The previous limit of 30 every 72 hours was fine. I could download at my leisure without hitting the limit, but now, I am finding more than 30 videos I want to download within my 6 days of waiting that by the time I can download again, I run up to the limit within a day. I also feel this pressure that I HAVE to be on here the day my limit is up so I can actually get a chance to see the videos I want to see.

Vrsumo2017

MozzerllaRick whoa no way they moved up to 6 days now?

Idk if vrbangers still does it but they did 10 downloads a day.

petermc

MozzerllaRick streaming may be slow for you but couldn’t you just use it to skim through a scene to see if it’s worth downloading rather than downloading everything? Then just keep your downloads for the scenes that you really want. If your internet is too slow to stream, I’d think it would take forever to download 30 scenes.

someoneX

Vrsumo2017 Yes, VR Bangers still has 10 per day, but that's not that much of a problem for a single studio site. Only stops users from getting everything in the first month, but no big problem for regular usage. The only site I hit the limit every time is SLR.

Punksxc

petermc streaming on low internet connection and skipping to scene is lag - zero logic for your skip to the part logic.

You think downloading is more problem? You obviously don't have slow internet with that logic.
Downloading slow = a complete lagless scene you can watch anytime.

Download for lagless scene vs streaming for a part that has a wait time = download wins.

Obvious you have no clue what low connection on streaming is like, with shared internet.

petermc

I’m not trying to argue. I get that watching a downloaded scene with no lag is better than streaming if it keeps freezing. I just thought, if your internet connection is that bad, it would take forever to download these huge files and maybe, just doing some minimal streaming admittedly with some lagging, could allow you to weed out some scenes don’t appeal to you. This would then reduce the number of scenes that you need to download.

I’m not any kind of expert though on internet connections, you’re right.

Punksxc

petermc you say you're not arguing but you're baselessly putting 'lag on watching scenes', as an option - waiting 5 minutes for a stream of a bit of a scene is a buzzkill.

How many times do you watch a movie while streaming? You're saying a person watches only one time that is wrong. You download a fav movie you don't need internet connection and you keep that movie.

How is your logic about a long download for keeping a film? You only download once not 100 times or stream 100 of times.

So explain how one full download defeats streaming a fav movie 100 times internet download? Explain what happens when a movie is removed?

I Can answer these. You are making arguements that are pointless. 1 download takes a day then you keep forever - not a bad thing is it?

Punksxc

petermc all your doing is is pushing an agender. I signed a membership that said downloads like everyone, that joined SLR. Everyone should get a refund if downloads are further removed.

MozzerllaRick

It really doesn't matter how slow it downloads, it's not like I am watching the download. I like to load up a download manager, in my case FDM, with the videos I want to download then go to sleep or do other stuff. The next day they are downloaded.
Streaming to check the videos out doesn't work well for me. I look at the contact sheets that show the whole scene, I don't even rely/trust the screenshots and decide from that if I want to download. Streaming on the website is no use since its just on my flat screen anyway, but the lag from waiting every time I click in a new spot on the video is painful. I don't have patience for that. I don't really see a viable way to do it in the SLR app and still come back to desktop and download without a lot of hassle. It would just take so much time to find each video, wait for it to buffer, skip ahead, wait for it to buffer, skip ahead, wait for it to buffer, etc. vs opening up 10 tabs with the days new videos that are interesting to me, checking the contact sheets, hitting download and walk away. Or lately, saving the tab open in another window until SLR lets me download again. If I am strapping on my headset to sit and watch VR videos, they need to be ready to go.

Sorry my internet sucks. My ISP says I might get Fiber in 3-4 years. So, maybe by the middle of this decade I could stream. Starlink might be an option for me sometime in the future too. But even then, I still want downloads for my porn.

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