Time to throw in my two cents....
I'm not convinced flat content is the problem here. 2D content is already separated from 3D. There is a toggle on the main page you can flip. The audience for 3D won't have their feed diluted.
But instead as @doublevr mentioned, having 2D content enables SLR to attract members that don't have access to a VR headset yet - this is a huge entry barrier, and this acts as a stepping stone to get more folks bought in to the VR content we all love.

Yet @KinkyGirlsBerlin noted that they saw their revenue decrease for the first time in this past month. I empathize, I really do. Because I pulled up a few videos from their channel out of curiosity, and it is clear that this creator puts a lot of work into their content. Their scenes are well thought out, and clearly made by someone passionate about what they do. I still doubt that the new flat content is the problem.
If I may offer an alternate possible explanation...

  1. Assuming most of the SLR audience is in the US, times are rough here. Economy is poor, inflation high, and a lot of people are losing jobs. And with a poor economy, there are government shortfalls, and in turn new laws that squeezing folks with massive tax increases. I'm guessing folks just don't have enough disposable income to try out a monthly subscription plus an expensive headset.
  2. KinkyGirlsBerlin channel content is a little bit niche. That is not a bad thing - it's good for the variety we have on the site. But it's going to be harder for your videos to make it to the top of the most popular page. It's just that they won't appeal to as broad of an audience. It's a hard tradeoff for creators to make... build the content you love to build and care about, or build what is popular. Knowing that if you move away from what you love to do, that element of passion will be gone and will be evident in the work.
    I don't think the problem is lack of marketing, or unfair competition (promotional advantage) from other channels. SLR scenes are consistently at the top because they follow a general formula that appeals to the widest user base. SLRs recommended page is actually pretty good at pushing more niche content based on your watch history from my observations - that's why I'm not convinced there is unfair bias here. This may be the unfortunate reality of being a niche channel and not having a big enough base audience. I don't mean this to sound harsh - I really do empathize and it really sucks that you can't be successful doing what you enjoy.

@KinkyGirlsBerlin , I am sorry you were banned from this thread. I think this forum can be a great resource to creators - you have a direct line to your end customers. Some are very knowledgeable when it comes to the VR content space. And they all want to see studios like you succeed. I wish you the best and hope you are able to work things out and return at some point!

    I will add to what @netcat said about what @KinkyGirlsBerlin could do to make they videos better from my point of view.

    1. I would have loved your videos with the 3 hot girls that you did a 3 part series with. If there wasn't another guy in the background. I'm sure there are people that like cuck or just banging chicks with other dudes around but I'm guesses it is not the majority.
    2. For me the camera is just too far away from you dick in every position. I already know you can zoom in but this causes another problem. It makes the picture get bigger. The picture is also too big to begin with.
      I know about IPD and all the rest. But after years of watching and reading forums. I think most people see scaling about the same way I do.
      I have no idea what camera you use and I remember that when you got the camera you had some of the best picture quality there was. People loved the picture but the scaling has always been too big.
      Maybe the bigger reason the scale looks big is because the stunt cock guy seems to be a pretty tall guy. If you put the camera at the correct height for the stunt cock then for most people they are already starting too far away. Plus I think it is far away even for the tall stunt cock.

    Because of these 2 things, I don't watch your scenes more of the time. I want to like them and I try lots of them. I will start them to see if I can zoom in enough without making everything huge. The problem is that there are other studios that don't have these 2 problems so I usually just turn yours off and move to the next scene.

    Good luck

    SchnuppiLilac My take on the pay-per-video/ studio marketplace is a bit different. I really really don't like it.

    @Arsians_com as an SLR user, I have zero interest in being charged more for 'studio exclusives'. I bought an SLR subscription with an understanding of access to the full library of content. Not so I would pay per video - that defeats the purpose of buying the subscription.
    I understand the suggestion that the videos would be later released on a time delay to streaming, but it still feels like double-charging. It would be a hard pass for me and I expect it would leave a lot of other users with a bad taste.

    Squeezing existing users for more money is not the answer here. While it might provide a bit of short term revenue, it does so at the cost of making the user value proposition worse. It's not good for the long term success of the platform. Instead, push to grow the SLR platform and get the user base up. A larger user base on the SLR platform means a wider audience for studios, more content for users, and growth for SLR. This way everyone wins.

      Perceived competition from flat and growing competition in vr180 must be the reason of insecurity in this thread.

      Users aren't giving anything away. Slr bridges the gap between vr headsets and smartphones which is huge right now.
      Everyone is happy.
      Transitions are never easy. All in all we are headed for much better use experience and content proposition by the end of the year.

      Don't hate us for innovation. Some of the old stuff had to be broken in the name of better new.

      netcat The viewers having spent money on lifetime and annual subscriptions have taken it on the assumption that this will be a VR only site. Same was the assumption by SLR partners when they publish VR scenes.
      Now we have the entrance of established 2D competitors that surely gives users the choice. As a viewer I have limited time for porn. There are limited eyeballs watching this. Yes sure, as a hardcore VR fan I might stick to VR only. But most would look at the other 2D option as well given the choice. The watchtime I spend has been divided between new 2D competitors and VR. I'm making the assumption that SLR pays partner channels based on watchtime based algos. If part of the money I spent is going for 2D, then it is money that VR studios have lost out on. Mind you, VR studios are spending way more on production costs like expensive cameras and repairs, expensive equipment, longer shoot hours, educating the talent on positions and what not, expensive editing rigs, complex post processing, issues with maturity of VR cameras, focus issues, paying larger shooting teams etc. Add to this the major learning curve of mastering this art.
      None of which are major concerns for 2D. They also have the numbers in their favour whenever someone enables that Immersivr Flat toggle. VR will get buried as KinkyGirlsBerlin has pointed rightly so.

      Are VR studios compensated differently from 2D for these financial challenges they face all the time?
      At this critical stage, when you see studios complain of making ends meet, try out approaches like remasters of same scenes, have longer release schedules etc and now we throw regular 2D at them, It makes me question the direction this is headed.
      There's no way for me to know if SLR considers these challenges for partner channels when making the payouts ever since 2D was added. I hope they do. I really do.
      If not, the quality of VR is to drop further if studios are struggling. Some might just stop.

      Don't you see the issue here?

        KinkyGirlsBerlin have a suggestion and talk in regards to 'lifetime':

        Lifetime isn't just done by SLR and many studios to lifetime. To be honest I would have not heard, of your studio unless I was on SLR.
        Example is many lifetime studios or studios in SLR - have DVD's, merchandise, multiple non lifetime sites. Kinkvr is on VRPorn which is lifetime but there own site has no lifetime, purchase options.

        Suggestion do surveys in the porn community or be involved in forums, see what people want. You have a niches so that is great.

          Imho and my two cents; if SLR want to attract new consumers to this sit and convert them to VR cnsumers then a potential option could be to get some of the high earning solo performers from eg. ManyVids and/or Onlyfans models interested in releasing VR scenes on the SLR platform. Most of these performers always seek other revenue streams and they have large fan groups that are willing to pay for new releases and customs.

          The issue for these models and I have been in contact with a few is that VR is out of their know-how. They are interested but simply lack the knowledge to setup a VR camera. Imho SLR could play a key part here by facilitate these models issues. Maybe proactive contacting them and offering them know-how, support and a platform to release on. SLR could be the manyvids for these models in VR imho.

          I realise that most of these models will only accept pay per video revenue models and one could of course argue releases should be part of the SLR subscription. My view is that if these models bring new consumers to the platform some of them will sign up for SLR subscriptions and that will then indirectly mean higher revenue to existing studios, that can then offer higher quality products.

          Anyway my 2 cents.

            What reason was @KinkyGirlsBerlin banned for? You deleted the post

            Leave it up for transparency

            SLR forum is becoming more and more toxic, people unable to voice any legit opinions that go against the changes happening because SLR takes offense and bans

            Is this a forum or an echo chamber?

                Just read up on this, the ban and censor is typical.. some people think this is new but has been happening for years. It defeats the purpose of a forum..

                That being said, I kind of disagree with the point here. It’s all preference based. The issue isn’t just 2D, there is a whole bunch of 3D vids that are worthless also:
                -Videos featuring terrible quality/audio/angles/visual problems.
                -Non-pov
                -Female pov
                -Solo content
                -Lazy uninspired compilations (99% of comps)
                -Most if not all content from 7+ years ago

                This list changes a bit from person to person, as its preference based.

                I have hidden the content from KinkyGirlsBerlin long ago, and therefore don’t see it. Did the same with “immersive” 2D. Out of the library around 10K vids are in my feed and still there is a bunch of stuff I don’t care for.

                There is no solution I can think of. Preferences differ, some people want to see KinkyGirlsBerlin in their feed and some 2D content, most probably want neither tbh. Give both a fair shot and let the user decide.

                OliverDK won't happen. I watched this girl on OnlyFans do a livestream, she made 10k before she even took her top off. These OnlyFans girls want their content on their accounts only.

                  jommy What reason was @KinkyGirlsBerlin banned for? You deleted the post

                  Leave it up for transparency

                  I have to agree with this one. I read this whole topic (what a show) and did not see why KinkyGirlsBerlin got banned. I think he had fair points and good questions never got answered 🙁 He has my sympathy even though I dont agree with him with the real reason income has reduced. Do not blame others if the reason can be seen in the mirror.

                  I have hidden about 77 studios so far. All of them full of crappy looking content (bad resolution, shaky camera, out of focus etc) and content out of my interest (anime, computer generated, old and fat granny etc). It sounds a lot, but still there is lot to trim. KinkyGirlsBerlin does not belong to this group. That is good so far.

                  I dont watch 2D content because it is crap. Luckily it is so easy to hidden. 2D can't be the reason. SLR has quit good recommendations feed. I prefer Japanese videos cos their intimacy. They might be niche and are not promoted. They (real Japanese gems) had to be dick and found deep from the video library. Luckily SLR feed highlights those when viewed often. Lacking of advertisement sounds too cheap reason for KGB not to be successful. If you like and watch something it is recommended to you and if you really care and love it you dick it out after all.

                  KinkyGirlsBerlin video quality was/is probably top5 studios. I remember when I first saw their video, I was amazed by their quality. Never heard of that studio before using SLR. Months and months have passed and I saw this topic. Had to check again their video library. KinkyGirlsBerlin has more than 150 videos. I had not put single one of the videos to my favourite or even watch later. NOT EVEN ONE.

                  Reason? Even thought video quality is still good it does not matter. The content is not for me and there is lot of better videos. This is little bit overkill, but girls are like German shot putters, could be almost men. I want sexy young girls like Melanie Marie, Melody Marks, Kiera Cole etc. There are few ok, but they are minority. 95% are not sexy.

                  I convert my favourite scenes to BYOJ passthrough videos. Those include kissing, doggy and missionary scenes. Pretty much everything is missing in KGB. Summary: Good video quality + bad girls + wrong sex positions = nothing for me. Other studios more attractive and competitive -> Less views and less money for KGB. I am sorry if this makes someone sad but I had to share this.

                      Picouser real reason income has reduced.

                      They did say that their numbers are the same or bigger now than a year ago but half the money is now coming in.
                      This is why I think that SLR should show the studios how they are spitting up the money. What is making the money. Is it watch time? Clicks? Hearts?.
                      I can see how a studio could get frustrated if SLR refuses to share this info. It's just "Trust me bro". I would never trust -trust me bro. Then they get banned for asking. Hmm. trust me bro.

                      I agree with your reasons for not watching their scenes

                        I've come back here for the first time in a couple of month, and seen all this early 2000's and 10 year old FLAT content, and wondering what the hell I paid a lifetime membership for.

                        The vast majority of stuff on this site is utter UTTER crap anyway. Girl walks in, quick BJ, she bounces on top for a while, then reverse cowgirl so we see her back for 5 minutes (always the sexiest part of a woman I guess???) then a weak facial. That is 90% of the site. So it is always difficult finding any decent stuff that my partner and I like.

                        SwallowBay was about the only site that specialized, they got it. When some of them whispered in your ear, shivers. And they have pulled all their films, leaving only a few compilations.

                        I'm a gay woman living with a gay woman, there is zero genuine stuff from gay women on here (I get it, that is a neiche, I don't expect them to cover it). There are a cople of "lesbian pov" stuff from women who have clearly never eaten any before, and don't own a razor.

                        Anyway: Every bloody video has to be bland vanilla. None of them focus on a subject. Where are the anal only films? Where are all the deepthroat only films? We LOVE watching woman deepthroat slick cock and strapon... We have to rely on the people making all the compilation films.

                        Here you are KinkyGirlsBerlin who are at least trying different things (you lesbian pov stuff... Yeah, not so good 🙂 No offence, but if I see one more 'lesbian' holding her strapon as she fucks with the tip, I will fucking explode 😃 ) And as you say, now there is a these old Flat films in here as well as the other bland...

                        So... Any other sites people can recommond? I gave up our membership at a famous KINKy 3D site... It was almost as bad as this place, they just didn't really take advantage of ASMR, sound, closeup. THey just filmed a session POV, with women with some BAD makeup.

                        Picouser On the contrary, I often love actresses, especially those who speak German; but hey, each to their own.