theHobbit Well niches have been attractive in 2D as EVERYONE can see it. VR is a smaller market and therefore a niche itself. Opening and catering a niche in a niche is not sustainable. Growing amount of viewers would make it easier for niches. Maybe that´s an idea for SLR - pushing the niches to get all kind of consumers on board - not just the skinny girl lovers.
By the way - most of the reason for this is where the content comes from. And what Models are available there and in general. I see very few plus size Models available - and just slightly more black girls... and those I have seen are all slim.
Flat 2D Content on SLR - and what it does to the creators ... we pause for now.
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KinkyGirlsBerlin Maybe that´s an idea for SLR - pushing the niches to get all kind of consumers on board -
That would be pretty interesting honestly. A site like SLR could help people discover studios that they might not know existed.
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I couldn’t agree more. 2D content on SLR is the equivalent of showing up to a Michelin star restaurant and being handed a Lunchable. Like, excuse me? I didn’t strap a $600 futuristic toaster to my face just to watch budget porn filmed on what looks like a 2008 flip phone by someone’s half-drunk uncle.
I’m not some cave-troll gremlin jerking it in the shadows of my grocery list, wondering why I see more man-thigh than mammary. If I wanted to feel like an underpaid cameraman at an amateur sausage parade, I’d go work for History Channel: Rome Edition.
I invested in VR because I want the full "I-just-fell-into-a-hot-tub-full-of-supermodels" experience. I want to be there, not be some limp ghost watching Chad the Human Tripod do all the work while I sit around like a horny poltergeist.
But lately? SLR’s homepage is starting to feel like Craigslist: The Porno Years. Just random 2D garbage everywhere, like a digital garage sale where everyone’s selling broken VCRs and calling it “vintage.” Whatever happened to the golden age of those glorious OG scenes that made you feel like you needed a post-coital cigarette and a spiritual cleanse?
It’s like SLR’s taken their golden goose, shaved it bald, and told us it’s still laying eggs. No thanks. Give me back immersive quality because I didn’t sign up for “Walmart VR: Sad Edition.”
alfredlongbottom3 top tier 4K flat is coming to SLR in coming months. right now we are getting things ready to have it shine
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I can't understand who goes to a VR site and watches 2D.
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KinkyGirlsBerlin If SLR wants to grow the base of awesome footage - maybe some kind of promo, funding, competition with prices etc. would help - the do it for DeoVR - they do it for their Originals... maybe for good friends in the business
I love this part. If they want to up the quality... then give some tuorials. I "THINK" we put out pretty good quality stuff, with everyday kind of people... but I have done all of the improving I know to do unless I'm shown differently. Our quality has drastically improved since we started, and it could likely improve more... but I don't know how. It seems SLRO are the priority, as it is their site... that being said... we did also build our own site for our content but it can't compete with $30 per month with 20 new videos per day coming out... best I can do is 2 per week. Maybe there are so many new studios coming in and getting a cut that without adding new subscribers at that same rate, pay will drop... that does make sense. IDK what the solution would be. If they could offer tutorials and quality control on videos then that might help. We will teach you how to get 90 to 95% the quality of SLRO and we expect that, or you can't post. Sorry that was all over the place... just some quick thoughts between editing videos
doublevr
Banning and censoring creators like KinkyGirlsBerlin or others just for trying to engage in constructive dialogue and point out real issues—while genuinely wanting to support the growth of your platform—is not the right approach, just because the feedback is inconvenient for you.
It seems clear that many SLR users are not interested in low-quality 2D content. They came here for a true 3D immersive experience. And now you're trying to push them low-effort 2D converted to 3D, which fails to deliver the quality and sense of presence that users are actually looking for.
In my opinion, if you really want to add 2D content, you can do so as an extra option for people who came here primarily for immersive VR experiences. But you should be paying significantly less for old, recycled 2D videos—and instead, support VR creators who are actually helping to build your platform.
If all of us stop producing VR content due to lack of profitability, your platform will definitely feel the impact as users begin to leave for other platforms that are more Creator-Friendly.
TommyStone he clearly crossed the line with his most recent post that got deleted. Otherswise that's not the tone and place for discussion of these matters.
If you think there's something we can do to grow the economy and improve the platform please let me know
I may get my head bitten off for asking this...
But can you not just filter out the flat content? That's what I do and I never see it.
Is this not the case or something?
I may have missed the post you’re referring to – I was probably asleep at the time and didn’t get the chance to read it before it was removed.
I just hope you won’t ban me the same way you did with KinkyGirlsBerlin. What I’m sharing here isn’t meant as an attack – quite the opposite. I genuinely believe this is a conversation worth having if we all care about the long-term health of the platform.
That said, I’d really encourage you to look at the bigger strategic picture here, not just today’s numbers.
Let’s face it: your core value, the reason this platform became what it is today, is VR. Not just any content, but high-quality, immersive 3DVR experiences. This is what made SLR stand out from the crowd and attracted a loyal base of paying users. It’s also what brought serious creators to the platform. Move away from that, and you risk losing your identity – and eventually, your userbase.
Instead of blending everything together and showing users a cluttered mix of 2D and VR, why not make VR the default view, with 2D available as an optional bonus? This simple change would align with user expectations and immediately improve perceived quality and experience. First impressions matter – especially for new users.
Let’s also talk economics. VR production takes more time, effort, equipment, and expertise. Yet, the revenue split doesn’t reflect that at all. Flat videos – often recycled from elsewhere – are eating from the same pot as original, immersive VR scenes. That’s not just unsustainable; it’s demotivating the creators who helped build your brand. Reducing payouts for flat content and shifting that support toward true VR would correct this imbalance and incentivize growth where it matters most.
The truth is, VR creators – especially smaller, independent ones – are running out of viable options. But this situation won’t last forever. The demand is growing. The gap is widening. And sooner or later, another platform will step in to fill that void. When that happens, creators will leave. And so will the paying users.
You still have a first-mover advantage. But only if you act now. Reinvest in 3DVR. Rebuild that strong, immersive ecosystem your users came here for. If you want to future-proof your growth, why not go a step further and consider launching adult VR games on the platform? This is a massively untapped niche with huge potential and almost zero competition. Be the one who leads – not the one who follows.
xeddin1
Of course, you're absolutely right – it is possible to filter out flat content. But let’s look at it from a new user’s perspective.
Imagine someone curious about VR – maybe they just got a headset and heard about this site as the go-to place for immersive experiences. They land on the homepage and what do they see? A wall of 2D videos – the same kind of stuff they can find on any free tube site. Do you think they’ll stop and wonder, “Hmm, maybe I should check the filters”? Or will they just assume this site isn’t what they hoped for and move on?
In my opinion, this is exactly how SLR is unintentionally losing potential new users. First impressions count. Highlighting VR content by default and offering 2D as an optional add-on would reinforce SLR's identity as a VR-first platform – which is what it was built on and what made it successful in the first place.
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TommyStone
Ah I see what you mean.
Definitely the UI needs an overhaul. YouTube has on their side bar 'Shorts' for a more TikTok viewing of content. You don't see shorts and normal videos mixed together.
I feel what SLR really should have done is made a partnership with a mid-tier 2D studio first. Not Brazzers or one of the top guys, but someone like Swallowed for example. That way they could actually offer some top tier 2D content. This would actually show that the platform has high performing 2D content, instead of just some random nameless.
TommyStone
We can discuss things all the day long. Just don't be disrespectful and assaulting as it doesn't bring us anywhere
doublevr
I'm really glad to hear that.
Let me know what you think about the ideas I've shared, and whether you believe any of them could realistically be implemented.
It would help all of us understand the direction you're heading in – and where we stand moving forward.
TommyStone we aren't doing well if you guys aren't doing well. SLR is here to give business for content and script creators, affiliate, performers and everyone out there.
Instead of waiting forever to see headsets sell many times more than they do we are actively looking for ways to expand the economy and get more eyeballs and dollars for your content.
Will check through your messages during the day
doublevr
Take your time, I’m looking forward to hearing from you.
TommyStone Imagine someone curious about VR – maybe they just got a headset and heard about this site as the go-to place for immersive experiences. They land on the homepage and what do they see? A wall of 2D videos – the same kind of stuff they can find on any free tube site. Do you think they’ll stop and wonder, “Hmm, maybe I should check the filters”? Or will they just assume this site isn’t what they hoped for and move on?
In my opinion, this is exactly how SLR is unintentionally losing potential new users. First impressions count. Highlighting VR content by default and offering 2D as an optional add-on would reinforce SLR's identity as a VR-first platform – which is what it was built on and what made it successful in the first place.
Really? I think maybe you are misrepresenting the average VR user who tend to be quite tech savvy. There is literally a toggle switch on the left hand side that you can switch off which is off by default. No?
doublevr If you think there's something we can do to grow the economy and improve the platform please let me know
- I think a simple popup when first visiting SLR with the options for what you want to see is warranted, save preferences as cookies & account:
Straight | Gay | Lesbian | Trans (can choose multiple)
VR Immersive | 2D | 2D to VR convert (if it's even a thing) (can choose multiple)
And have those same toggles always visible on the sidebar
That would be a huge step to implementing trans content on the main library page (if users choose to) which would make the trans category visible and not a hidden secret. Might even bring back the big trans studios
- Improve live cams more, compete directly with Stripchat by offering an equal or better interface and ability to record private shows. SLR/Dreamcam already have lower priced privates on average vs Stripchat so once SLR can offer an equal interface and features, it's a no brainer to spend money here
Private show recordings could have tied into SLRDrive nicely, scripts, passthrough