AV1 Is Now Live on SexLikeReal!
"It just doesn't make any sense, I don't believe it will return any income to SLR and it WILL eat resources. Just stop all that crap and focus on the core business, the reason that we're here: high quality SLR VR originals."
Many a businesses have died due to Hubris and not listening to their core audience, pray it doesn't happen to SLR.
You simply cannot offer a lifetime subscription, take features away, and then charge extra for them. No sensible person considers this acceptable. If you want to take away original downloads for new subscriptions going forward, then, while I still don't like that, it's at least not taking away something someone already paid for. Active subscriptions should retain the ability to download original quality, at least until the next renewal date (for non-lifetime subscriptions).
If the high quality SLR videos continue and continue to improve then to me even though I am not a 2D VR fan I will glady except the trade off.
Right now the SLR videos are getting super sharp tothe point that non PT still look pretty darn good processed as AI PT. The colors are deeper and crisper.
For me the name of the game is total immersion and they are pushing forwards again towards this and not backwards.
PaulBlart Thing is, if you bought a subscription a month ago you thought you were paying for HBR files. Then they take those away and give you 'free' flat video's instead, something you're absolutely not interested in. How is that even fair?
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harigeharry transcoded 8K downloads used by majoring of users are there all the way.
Things have to change. PPV will be also coming with AI script where available
Should be a nice upgrade for those who are into it.
I hear you. Ill let DoubleVR or someone else respond to that aspect of it but as far as creating the ultimate immersive videos at least recently it has been more steps forward than backwards..
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So for now, downloads are being eliminated as part of the membership baseline. Because of the immense improvements and costs associated with a new codec.
I've read somewhere that companies distributing video content using AVC and HEVC codecs have to pay royalties to MPEG LA.
AV1 was developed by Alliance for Open Media (Google, Netflix, Amazon, etc,) to be royalty free alternative to HEVC.
I would assume using AV1 would lower the costs, instead of increasing it.
mirdumar SLR isn't paying royalties for use of AVC or HEVC.
doublevr If we lose some random complainers for rising the bar it's okay
Holy shit I'm dying lol. I know stuff like this rubs some people the wrong way but I think it's great. I'm glad you have a vision and are making it happen.
I do understand the frustration for those affected by the decision to remove the HBR original downloads, but I can't imagine there are a lot of them. I used to download a lot of my favorite videos (I have ~ 3TB) and was annoyed when the download limit was imposed. Even then though, I couldn't justify downloading the original files because of their huge size. I'm guessing that the majority of people who care that much about peak quality are the same people who would pay extra to get it, while 99% of the customer base doesn't care and just wants to watch some cute naked girls in VR.
I mean, these forums are in no way representative of the general customer base. I visit occasionally and it's always the same people on here. Just because there's like 20 people complaining about losing a feature, it doesn't mean SLR is going bankrupt. And those who are saying that they're ending their subscriptions... ok? That was always an option. Most people just cancel subscriptions when they aren't getting what they want. They don't make entitled posts on niche forums. Again, I do understand the frustration but there's constructive criticism and then there's whining.
So I just want to take a moment and say thanks to the SLR team. This is by FAR the best pornsite I've ever used. In fact, it's the only one that I've felt compelled to subscribe for more than a month or two at a time (I'm yearly). The fact that you have your own video player is awesome. I know Heresphere might be a technical marvel (and I used it for years on my pc) but I sincerely prefer DeoVR. The layout and usability is just way better for anyone who's not meticulously adjusting the settings. Being able to one click AI passthrough is just chef's kiss.
The commitment to trying new things is what I appreciate about SLR. I thought passthrough was whatever when it was coming out, but now that I have a Quest 3, holy shit. Passthrough is most certainly the future. And the fact that AI passthrough is available on every video I watch is absolutely incredible and worth every cent of my subscription. It's not perfect, but it's currently the worst it will ever be. And as long as it's good enough to convince the lizard part of your brain that there actually is a naked girl on your bed, that's what matters to me.
Aaaaand I'm super excited to see if SLR can get involved with guassian splatting. If SLR can do what BraindanceVR is doing or even make something better, we will all be living in the future.
All in all, I'm super excited to see what's coming in the next few years. It's great that you have a vision and I wish you nothing but the best.
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Thogapotomus It's great that you have a vision
The vision is making as much money as possible. You are delusional if you think it's about anything else.
If the company wants to create something new and charge more for that, fine. But to take away something I've already paid for is wrong. It's not a vision, it's a scam.
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onyxone Well, nothing wrong with making as much money as possible, in fact, every company should maximize its profits for its shareholders. But selling a subscription and then take away parts of that after you've sold that subscription is a scam indeed. Kinda sounds harsh but I don't see how you can sugar coat it. You sell a service and after you've received the money you deliver a downgraded version of the service you were selling. Like people asked here rightly, how is this even legal? And what stops them from putting everyhing beyond 4k VR after a double paywall? I mean now it's the HBR version, but what's next? Like somebody said above, what stops them from stripping down your rights to just a forum login and putting EVERYTHING behind a double paywall?
But yeah just like @Thogapotomus said, what else can we do than complain, we're just a few forum users here anyway. Nobody is going to start legal action against SLR of course. So we just b*tch a bit about it here. People who have a monthly/yearly subscription can stop but the lifetime guys can't do much at all. I guess that's the risk of taking a lifetime subscription.
Raising the bar...improving the visual quality...investing and innovating in newer tech/ format...investing in "inferior spatial" formats...etc...
All of this means nothing if the cast and the overall theme of the contents are of low standards to say it respectfully, and it seems SLR is going that way for whatever reasons they have, well, it's their business anyway.
What we're against is taking down features or locking them behind a pay wall, the same features that attracted us and made us subscribe in the first place, the same features that were an essential part of our subscription plan, you can't justify this no matter what you say. End of the story.
mirdumar SLR said something a couple of months ago about AV1 being a better codex because you can get more information for less GBs. So it cost SLR less to stream these videos in AV1. That is the main reason they are going to it.
I get that SLR would want to spend less to stream their videos. That makes sense. They claimed it will look better too but it's more about saving bandwidth.
The thing that is bullshit is now changing people for something that cost them less to do.
Thogapotomus This is not about SLR features or them being innovative. This is about SLR using AV1 as an excuse to try and weazel out of their contractual obligation to allow downloads while hoping they won't get sued because it's a porn site.
fenderwq Exactly this, the AV1 Codec excuse was the first step in their road map.
Next step is using this paywall as new excuse to turn the site into a streaming only service. Wait for it and mark my words. That's their end game if you guys still not convinced.
Next year or so, they will say that the PPV feature is not usable by most and it's now a burden and costly for us to keep regardless of truth, and so on and so on to all the other features (traps) that used as a reason for many of us to subscribe until it's a a streaming only site. You'll own nothing and be happy style.
And it will work for them for a while then it's game over, why, because of competition and alternatives that didn't follow suit which will attract the likes of my mentality, since we want to own what we pay for and enjoy it as long as possible and no one on earth can change that for us.
I already found a more suitable place for me and my FREE mentality. Thankfully, I'll not deal with this nonsense anymore. Only 2 months of patience and I'm good to go. And I always put my money where my mouth is.
Funny enough, before this decision, I was thinking of a lifetime subscription. Lucky I didn't pull the trigger, and thankfully I'm now fully aware and SURE where this site is going unfortunately. Even if they reverse this decision, I can't trust nor invest in it anymore.