New Studio Arsians with a focus on alpha passthrough and interactivity

Axxipiter

Arsians_com
Amy is hot! I liked her scene in AmyVR...
The image quality was not the best possible. I hope you find ways to improve it.

Anyway, I look forward to more VR scenes with her! 🙂

metichemsi

xeddin1 IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, he clearly said its just a damn test, what cant you understand about that???? Therefore the image quality is of no concern regarding that DAMN scene, you baboons just focus on the resolution and ignore completely what he even said in the first place. He said he already got the canon system this was just an EARLY test with a camera, damn dude you cant read

metichemsi

Arsians_com good for you bro, keep grinding, anyone in this damn forum will always have something to nitpick about but 99% have never even held a VR system in their hands. I like the drive and the effort, its all up to you to continue to improve and refine. The only thing I can add is that you should strongly consider switching to the R5C just for the overheating issues, if not, thats ok, shoot segments at a time and give the camera and the crew a quick brake to cool off haha.

xeddin1

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xeddin1

metichemsi The problem is that he states this 'test' video was filmed in 5.7k.

Arsians_com This video is in 5.7k, we have since upgraded the camera to deliver 8k60 content and redid the scenes, but we want to release the three prototype scenes we rendered first since they were a lot of work.

The output we’re seeing doesn’t appear to be 5.7K—it looks more like 2K, which is far below the quality expected from 6K or higher footage. Whether it’s a test or not, if he says the test footage is 5.7K, that quality should be evident. Regardless of the camera capturing 6K or 8K, improper rendering can severely degrade the quality. It’s possible that a proxy was rendered instead of the main file. This may suggest an issue with his computer and not the camera itself.

Addressing the quality isn’t an insult or nitpicking—it’s constructive feedback to help identify potential problems. Do you believe the output was truly 6K? That’s the claim he made. If his goal was to deliver 6K-quality footage, then the attempt failed. Unless he resolves the rendering issues, upgrading to an 8K camera won’t improve the results—the same subpar quality will persist if the rendering process remains flawed.

metichemsi

xeddin1 its a waste of time for you to point it out, thats the point and you keep going back to it, who cares what the damn resolution is, its a PT test of everything else regarding PT, you just cant get it through that thick dome of yours, get over it

Arsians_com

It's the Evo 3D, if you check the AmyVR videos that have been filmed with the same camera it has the same issue, but a much simpler editing pipeline.
I don't think there is a way to improve those,the right eye will always be softer than the left.
Until end of the week I will have released the 6 videos from the old camera and hopefully we will have the first 8k60 video ready. I expect that a single scene will take 3-5 days to render, so gotta start to render today for Friday.

I am myself excited for better quality, but porting the Canon workflow on top of the alpha passthrough workflow is a huge beast that needs taming first.
On that camera you need to e.g. manually align the eyes vertically which the Evo did automatically.
Anyway,there should be 3 more videos coming today.
I uploaded Arsians Gael Sex Level 1 on Friday and AmyVR as a Maid on Saturday.
I also rendered the blowjob training level with both girls together again because there was an error.
This scene will have some Greenscreen issues. You will see Amy had blue hair before, which interfered with the greenscreen. That's why she changed her hair colour to red for newer shots.

xeddin1

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For further clarity, was this video https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/gael-blowjob-level-118-thai-48495?t=18
shot with a 5.7k, I.E., 6k camera? If so, you either rendered a proxy, exported wrong, or your computer is not strong enough to render at the desired quality.

In any scenario, I am doubtful that an 8k camera will produce the desired outcome if you are not using the correct render settings or if your computer simply isn't strong enough. If it takes 3-5 days to render I am going to guess you have around 32gb of RAM. Which is not a lot.

Arsians_com

xeddin1 the resolution isn't important if the sensor and lens are trash. The Insta360 Evo is a consumer level VR Cam from 2019, you just can't compare it to a modern Canon. If you watch older VR Home Videos from that time they all look like this.
The video you just linked was rendered by a professional editor, the AmyVR videos were done by me. Both have the same problems. I don't think quality on these can be improved, but they are also not unwatchably bad.

metichemsi

Arsians_com exactly, but people like Xed just cant get past that for some odd reason hahaha

Vrsumo2017

Arsians_com I have 25 years experience in the game industry and am a huge VR Enthusiast

Bro I love the boxing and combat games I just wish there were good looking female npc's to box with or combat with, there needs to be more sex appeal in vr games. Imo

You know any cool games to recommend to get?
I be scrolling through metas catalog and not much gets my attention. 🤷‍♂️

Arsians_com

Vrsumo2017 If you like Sport games then check out Eleven Table Tennis, it's basically a 1:1 Simulation of the sport,love it.
If you need something relaxing check out Puzzling Places, you puzzle together real places that were scanned with Photogrammetry.
Another game that could be for you is Until you Fall, it's a roguelike game where you fight through hordes of enemies, also a good workout.

Upcoming games to look out for until the end of the year: Batman, Behemoth and Metro: Awakening.

Vrsumo2017

Arsians_com the batman looks good, heard good reviews by reviewers who got to play it. 👍

wongry

@Arsians_com
I've finally had time to watch some of the test scenes.

Scale-wise, I'm finding that at default 1.00x zoom in DeoVR (on Quest 3) everything look a little bit undersized. I'm finding a 1.10x or 1.25x zoom is a better match. I don't mind it too much, it's far less jarring than having an elephant-scale model tower over you.

Definitely found the ghost hands distracting - especially for the moneyshot. Of course you already know to address this, but I wanted to confirm after watching your actual vid.

Two major thoughts:
Since your editing/greenscreen keys out everything flat, it's difficult to know what body position/angle to match with (e.g. lying down and eyes to the horizon, seated and head tilted down, etc.) This is unlike SLR PT videos that show the male actor posture and room edges/corners when PT is disabled. You don't need to copy SLR PT, but it could be helpful to have info (maybe an icon?) showing what posture the scene was shot in. Maybe show it briefly after the title card, or even in the video thumbnail?

Also, it's really difficult to anticipate the climax (which as a viewer, I always want to match). This is partly from lacking body language cues from the male due to PT, and the inexperienced female model who won't prompt/command the cumshot (which I fully understand is the premise of your series). Personally, I would appreciate some sort of signal that the cumshot is near. (Just throwing it out there: a 30sec countdown timer tucked away on the ceiling or somewhere hidden?)

metichemsi

wongry nice feedback, for once someone doesn't hyper focus on the resolution of the camera even thought the creator said it was a test and he already has and is using a better system lol

I think the scale has to do with the IPD of the Evo he used, I used to own that camera and unless your subject is less than a foot away I do remember scale being an issue. Then again he will be switching to the canon lens and we already know how most people feel about the scaling with that system hahaha I guess nobody will be pleased with scaling unless you mod your lens like SLR has or you use a K1, K2, or FMDUO system lol

Definitely no on the ghost hands for sure.

I've tried passthrough with my system as well and also defaulted to greenscreen instead of alpha PT, it was just too cumbersome of a workflow for a hobbyist like myself but perhaps he can adopt it since it seems like he may be pursuing this as a full time job eventually. I think that even if you use chromakey instead of alpha, you can simply add a quick frame with a position diagram in between each change to let the viewer know what position to change to next? I know its not ideal or some may say it breaks the immersion but hell, switching positions is already jarring as it is, so a smooth transition with a position graphic may not be that bad. I see these quite often at the start of CGI VR scenes.

The anticipation part is an interesting point, I never really put any thought into it but it does make sense, I think for the most part we are all fairly conditioned to the same type of progression or peek at the progress bar periodically to know when the climax is going to happen. But now that I put a little more thought into it I do notice that a big part of it falls on the girl performers responsibility to sort of queue it up by what they say leading to it and also the male will often start to squeeze the girls arm or leg to let them know he is close to blowing up which prompts the girl to quickly change position to finish him off. Very interesting insight.

Arsians_com

Thank you for the feedback guys, I 100% agree that it needs a calibration moment in the first 15 seconds and that a shot clock will help tremendously with matching the timing for a Cumshot. I will try to implement both of these things in the coming months.

I just have a huge problem with that at the moment and that's the issue that rendering the 8K scenes without a proper PC that is specifically built for the task takes forever.

If we use the same method we used on our low-res videos it takes 30 minutes to render a second.
We optimized the keying and got this down to 10 minutes, then frankensteined the two PCs we had together for an additional 20% boost.

I'll try to do add these features as soon as I can, but doing heavy edits on top of these huge rendering times will probably have to wait until we can get a 5090 or we find a way to bring the render time down.

A 7 minute blowjob would currently render 2 weeks and we want to release 2 scenes per week, I think you guys see the conundrum.

But no worries, we learn and adapt and soon we will be able to show you what we've been cooking, then shortly after we will add a test with counter and calibration for sure.

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I also got myself a subscription to the other site that does passthrough and saw how they did missionary.
It's very interesting in the sense that you really get a deep look into the eyes of the model and can appreciate her beauty, but you can't really trick your brain into getting a body match, since the girl basically has to be on a chair and the male should move very slowly while hovering above her . It is a beautiful thing to add though for the first or second position, because it can be a turn on.

But it doesn't allow for a body match, it makes the scenario too fake and that untricks my brain, so it has to come early in a scene. I'll watch a few more of their videos to see if I can make a variation of that or if this is something that should only be done in the first half of the scene.

blaze466

Arsians_com Very hot!

InfiniteFun

Arsians_com 1000w grow light

Arsians_com raises the room temperature

...welcome to the jungle. Hopefully it's already an LED! The fact you're stuck in Asia doesn't help, your external temps are gonna be way too high to efficiently cool with extraction or similar, i'd suggest sourcing some AC, or a room with AC to shoot in, set the bugger to max and let the room cool down as much as possible before you shoot.

Grow lamps have a specific spectrum that focuses on the photons the plants want, called PAR, which encompasses more than just human vision. We like green predominant light, they love blue, red, green, wtvr they can get their greedy chloroplasts round. NOT a photographer, but i would assume a photographic lamp would focus more on lumens than PAR and therefore be more efficient, as regards heat.

Also, if you have a decent reflector you can aim the light better, like wot proper photography lamps have. The lenses on LED grow lamps are kinda tuned for hitting stuff a short distance away, i think they have too much dispersal over a long distances to be efficient enough to not be maxing your heat out with.

If it's not an LED, if it's HPS or CDM, then yeah, lots and lots of silly extraneous heat.

Just my two cents, best of luck...x

metichemsi

InfiniteFun damn good two cents lol the things we take for granted in some areas never cease to amaze me sometimes

Arsians_com

InfiniteFun Thank you for the feedback.
Yes those lights are the first thing I wil replace with the first paycheck. They are the main reason I have heating problems,but make everything look pretty nice and even for artificial lighting in the future.

When the camera access feature drops in January I expect that passthrough has to be lit this way.

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