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Arsians_com Hey man, thanks for the in depth response. Glad my feedback was taken in good spirit.

I don't get what you mean about tilting not being possible in passthrough. PT and VR are exactly the same aside from one having the background removed (and subtle differences in scaling and perspective due to the nature of the tech). Film it the same! If you look at SLR's PT videos you'll see no huge difference in how they shoot except for PT is more demanding in terms of precision, hands, etc. Some positions work better in PT / VR but essentially it's the same concept.

I understand you don't want to confuse the viewer by having the action outside of the default view when looking straight ahead. In your BJ scene, you can have the model start by standing then dropping into position, so the viewer understands they should look down. I think everyone starts watching a scene looking straight ahead, so ideally the camera angle should mimic that - I look down from there to see my virtual cock.

This topic starts to get pretty complex honestly and we could go back and forth too much. All I will say is you don't need to overthink the "rules" of PT. We've got enough scenes out there that we kind of know what works and what doesn't, and tilting is definitely a thing which works fine for certain positions.

If you could film exactly like recent SLR passthrough examples that would be fine for most of us, I think! Obviously bring your own creative aspect but start by following the work that others have already done.

BTW I forgot to mention, you also have to watch your vertical alignment. Check the vertical levels of the left and right images and they are slightly off (left image is lower than the right).Even a small disparity can break the scene or at least give the viewer a headache. Something to quickly check in the edit.

    I have been out of this forum for a few months but recently catching up and your post caught my attention.

    I personally feel its great people like you are getting into this space and I would take any criticism of the quality of these first scenes lightly. You clearly said you shot with an Evo and its merely a "TEST" I dont understand why people keep bringing it up still.
    Anyways, I'm more interested in the project as a whole and your progress to use a newer canon camera, quick question though, why didn't you just go for the R5C instead? Don't have any overheating issues, I personally shoot 8k for over an hour at a time and had no issues.

    I am personally most interested in the fact you are working on a larger VR game and what that means for the scenes, I always look forward to new type of content, concepts, points of view and role playing. VR porn scenes are getting boring as heck these days, I still prefer Japanese scenes shot in 4k over most modern stuff. I hope that your work can get some different perspectives angles and ideas, along with such a beautiful new model you showed off, she looks great. Please feel free to share more pictures of her in the meantime, it can really get a lot of people excited about your content when you preview pictures of your talent, similar to what SLR does on the forum where they are constantly sharing images and previews of models and scenes.

    Focus on the fundamentals, forget about image quality being the number one priority. If you can manage to nail down your angles, lighting, exposure, and performance you will have a good scene. I would much rather watch something truly compelling in a lower quality than junk boring scenes in 12k. Even SLR cant seem to figure out the fundamentals in PT yet so dont be discouraged by all the naysayers or people being nitpicky. One of their recent PT scenes https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/lias-edge-46153 just came out 2 months ago and it has the absolute worst scaling and lens focus I have ever seen and it was an absolute shame because it wasted that scene with Lia.

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      Just about the one-shot vs. cut aspect, I think VRedging has really mastered using cuts with an "eye blink" effect. Not literally 100% perfect, but so close that I always admire how well it's done. Of course, they produce with experienced female talent, which makes a difference.

      Perhaps while shooting if you need to direct, retake, or even prepare the money shot, you could have a prepared/practiced "base pose" to return to (and then make the cut)? I find carefully done cuts preferable to one-shots where the girl looks off-camera for direction/feedback which tends to break immersion more.

      Two common JAV cut poses are lean-in deep kissing (prompts eye closure), and lean-in behind the ear to say something naughty (face off-screen to load fake cum for a cum-in-mouth blowjob finish). These might not work for what you're doing, but just some thoughts!

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        I strongly disagree with you saying 'forget about image quality being the number one priority'.
        How can you even say that? If the image quality was fine and he was looking to make it super high def, then sure...But this is currently unviewable. You point out there being boring scenes at 12k, which is fair, image quality != good, I agree. But I can't see how anyone can view this and say that image quality is not the first and most important thing for him to fix. Image quality alone won't make a bad scene good, but extremely poor image quality will make any scene bad.

            Thank you guys for the positive encouragement, I am thankful for every little bit of info that will make the videos better. A few pointers.

            Image quality is of course supper important. But as I said I already spend nearly 20k$ in the last 60 days to improve that. The content you currently see is all shot with what I had before I invested, so huge upgrades in quality are coming. I just really want to still launch the lower quality content because it was a lot of work to shoot and render and I think even with the lower quality it is worth watching because there is so little passthrough content until now. I think there are currently 34 alpha passthrough videos, 32 from SLR and 1 from another studio and my first scene.

            I bought the R5 mark 2 because I plan to travel a lot to different locations. This model should be able to shoot 8k60 in the body without external power.
            It also apparently overheats less than the r5c and the r5, but we have way higher temperatures in south east Asia. I also have a lighting problem.
            Originally I bought two studio lights , but they didn't evenly lit the scene enough, so now I use a 1000w grow light and bounce the light against the wall. This makes the scene evenly lit, but raises the room temperature. Without these lights I could shoot 15 min.
            This needs improving, balancing heat and light will be am ongoing issue for now.
            There is also a accessory for the camera that cools it for longer shots, but this battery grip is sold out everywhere, this should also help when we can get it

            Just last week I found a cooling fan from Ulanzi that works with the camera and boosts its recording time for 20-30%

            Until now I shot around 10 scenes with the R5 mark 2 and got better at using the camera, but it's so much more complicated to shoot with a cam like that compares to what I did before. I basically can't shoot alone , I need a stage hand to make sure lighs, external sound, rotation of the cam, light bleed and solid colors from the green room, shadows etc. are all managed on every shot.

            Someone was asking for a holiday themed scene. I shot the girls in two catgirl outfits for a Halloween double anal scene, that scene will be released before other recently shot ones, so it should show the current improvements in camera and light.

            I will check out VRedging to see if I can copy their blink transitions,thanks for the tip.

            One thing I recently realized is that if I continue to erase the male actor completely ,then I will be able to throw hand gestures. But I haven't decided yet if the male body should always be erased. Lots of things to try like leaving an outline for positioning.
            I'll add some pictures of the Halloween kitties as a teaser.

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              Amy is hot! I liked her scene in AmyVR...
              The image quality was not the best possible. I hope you find ways to improve it.

              Anyway, I look forward to more VR scenes with her! 🙂

                xeddin1 IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, he clearly said its just a damn test, what cant you understand about that???? Therefore the image quality is of no concern regarding that DAMN scene, you baboons just focus on the resolution and ignore completely what he even said in the first place. He said he already got the canon system this was just an EARLY test with a camera, damn dude you cant read

                  Arsians_com good for you bro, keep grinding, anyone in this damn forum will always have something to nitpick about but 99% have never even held a VR system in their hands. I like the drive and the effort, its all up to you to continue to improve and refine. The only thing I can add is that you should strongly consider switching to the R5C just for the overheating issues, if not, thats ok, shoot segments at a time and give the camera and the crew a quick brake to cool off haha.

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                    metichemsi The problem is that he states this 'test' video was filmed in 5.7k.

                    Arsians_com This video is in 5.7k, we have since upgraded the camera to deliver 8k60 content and redid the scenes, but we want to release the three prototype scenes we rendered first since they were a lot of work.

                    The output we’re seeing doesn’t appear to be 5.7K—it looks more like 2K, which is far below the quality expected from 6K or higher footage. Whether it’s a test or not, if he says the test footage is 5.7K, that quality should be evident. Regardless of the camera capturing 6K or 8K, improper rendering can severely degrade the quality. It’s possible that a proxy was rendered instead of the main file. This may suggest an issue with his computer and not the camera itself.

                    Addressing the quality isn’t an insult or nitpicking—it’s constructive feedback to help identify potential problems. Do you believe the output was truly 6K? That’s the claim he made. If his goal was to deliver 6K-quality footage, then the attempt failed. Unless he resolves the rendering issues, upgrading to an 8K camera won’t improve the results—the same subpar quality will persist if the rendering process remains flawed.

                          It's the Evo 3D, if you check the AmyVR videos that have been filmed with the same camera it has the same issue, but a much simpler editing pipeline.
                          I don't think there is a way to improve those,the right eye will always be softer than the left.
                          Until end of the week I will have released the 6 videos from the old camera and hopefully we will have the first 8k60 video ready. I expect that a single scene will take 3-5 days to render, so gotta start to render today for Friday.

                          I am myself excited for better quality, but porting the Canon workflow on top of the alpha passthrough workflow is a huge beast that needs taming first.
                          On that camera you need to e.g. manually align the eyes vertically which the Evo did automatically.
                          Anyway,there should be 3 more videos coming today.
                          I uploaded Arsians Gael Sex Level 1 on Friday and AmyVR as a Maid on Saturday.
                          I also rendered the blowjob training level with both girls together again because there was an error.
                          This scene will have some Greenscreen issues. You will see Amy had blue hair before, which interfered with the greenscreen. That's why she changed her hair colour to red for newer shots.

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                            For further clarity, was this video https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/gael-blowjob-level-118-thai-48495?t=18
                            shot with a 5.7k, I.E., 6k camera? If so, you either rendered a proxy, exported wrong, or your computer is not strong enough to render at the desired quality.

                            In any scenario, I am doubtful that an 8k camera will produce the desired outcome if you are not using the correct render settings or if your computer simply isn't strong enough. If it takes 3-5 days to render I am going to guess you have around 32gb of RAM. Which is not a lot.

                                xeddin1 the resolution isn't important if the sensor and lens are trash. The Insta360 Evo is a consumer level VR Cam from 2019, you just can't compare it to a modern Canon. If you watch older VR Home Videos from that time they all look like this.
                                The video you just linked was rendered by a professional editor, the AmyVR videos were done by me. Both have the same problems. I don't think quality on these can be improved, but they are also not unwatchably bad.

                                    Arsians_com I have 25 years experience in the game industry and am a huge VR Enthusiast

                                    Bro I love the boxing and combat games I just wish there were good looking female npc's to box with or combat with, there needs to be more sex appeal in vr games. Imo

                                    You know any cool games to recommend to get?
                                    I be scrolling through metas catalog and not much gets my attention. 🤷‍♂️

                                        Vrsumo2017 If you like Sport games then check out Eleven Table Tennis, it's basically a 1:1 Simulation of the sport,love it.
                                        If you need something relaxing check out Puzzling Places, you puzzle together real places that were scanned with Photogrammetry.
                                        Another game that could be for you is Until you Fall, it's a roguelike game where you fight through hordes of enemies, also a good workout.

                                        Upcoming games to look out for until the end of the year: Batman, Behemoth and Metro: Awakening.

                                            xeddin1 its a waste of time for you to point it out, thats the point and you keep going back to it, who cares what the damn resolution is, its a PT test of everything else regarding PT, you just cant get it through that thick dome of yours, get over it