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OliverDK that’s a very reasoned way to look at this. I guess the big question out there is how much is this all Jimmy’s thing, and he’s just bringing it here on an equal footing with other contributing studios? If that’s the case then your take is exactly right. What stands out though was the weighting this was originally given in the announcement that began this very thread. Bullet 2 announced what read a lot more like full-on collaboration to me… i.e. SLR enabling Jimmy to shoot, and that’s a very different thing isn’t it? “We are helping him out with setup.” Of course that all got downplayed when this news blew back hard.

And it’s not like this should have been a shock. I remember double taking the temperature on this a few months ago and the reaction and advice then screamed “don’t do it”

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    doublevr you've got a warning

    Wow. Okay. Well, I guess the next thing I say that you don’t like means I’m gone. Whatevs. I haven’t bothered with this forum for months … until this particular issue came up. Like others I’ve tried only to point out that working with that guy is likelier to hurt SLR than help it. You only hear what you want to, man, so all good. No loss to me if you kick me from this forum. I’ll just leave you with this I guess:

    https://thefulcrum.ca/opinions/why-censorship-does-not-work/

    Kick me. Don’t kick me. I’m done here too.

          doublevr with all due respect the only uncivil party here is you, and in turn SLR, for insisting in the face of MULTIPLE ACCUSERS that this man can somehow say something that will convince us that he 1.) didn’t do them or 2.) somehow won’t do it again.

          It’s utterly ludicrous.

          Why would all of these women risk being blacklisted and jeopardize their career for a fake accusation? Can you answer that with anything that isn’t a ridiculous conspiracy theory with no substance behind it?

          It’s 2024 the me too movement was supposed to make incidents like this abundantly clear, there is no reason or explanation for half a dozen or more women to lie about being sexually harassed, the only explanation is the man in question is a sexual harasser.

          And the only proper response is to unequivocally remove him from your platform and APOLOGIZE for these utterly ridiculous comments that feel like they are from 2004 not 2024. Is there no one else from SLR to speak to? Because double is all we can speak to I have zero confidence that this won’t happen again under your watch, due to your clearly and staunchly anti-performer and anti-woman stance.

          Let me be utterly clear even letting Jimmy “get a chance to speak” is you choosing a side. You should have just banned him from the platform and now you’re setting up a clear path for him to stay

              Xipernosky doing things blindly doesn't solve the problem. Quite opposite.

              Will see where it brings us.

              Otherwise you are getting too much on yourself with no credible history. Enough of the same moralisation.

                  doublevr What exactly do you mean by credible history? That I have not posted in these forums except for this topic? Are members of the community that do not actively participate in the forums seen as less credible? A person who has been a customer for years/bought dozens of videos simply not credible?

                  As long as what someone says is backed by evidence and logic it will always be credible. Speaking of logic… You have not been able to adequately answer why several performers would risk their careers to claim someone is a sexual assaulter. There is no logical explanation other than he is one.

                  As for your claim that my previous post and all my posts can be hand waved away by it being moralization, if you recognize that our values are at odds and you resent that I am lecturing you as to why your morals are wrong you should also realize a FORUM is exactly the place to challenge and change another’s values and attitudes and beliefs ESPECIALLY when a large part of the community believes you are wrong about what is right and wrong.

                      Xipernosky that s some fucked up logic.

                      Just saying you have no credibility and you start getting too far asserting your strange logic.

                      No one needs your repeated moraling. Nor you are contributing to the discussion

                      Update: one day ban for ongoing arguing after the warning

                          Fuck it, I’m gonna come out and support Jimmy.

                          He made some of the best, most creative VR porn I’ve ever seen. Gina Valentina, Adria Rae, Kali Roses etc. presumably had no problem.

                          If he can get that magic going again I’ll be here ready.

                          One of the most active and popular adult actresses in the business right now is blacklisting SLR. I'm not gonna argue morals or whatever (it wouldnt have even gotten to this if those were somethig that mattered to SLR). I'm pretty sure that an overwhelming majority of your paying customers would have loved to seen Alex Coal make her epic return to SLR, maybe even for a PT scene. Something thats been a painpoint for PT fans is not getting enough top talent in PT. But thats not possible anymore. I'm sure this also means that Emma Hix and other's who spoke out against Jimmy will also blacklist SLR. I just wonder how far the rabbit hole will go? It seems like yall are confident in Jimmy making up the difference to offset all this bad press. But I just cant imagine people sticking around if all youre able to cast are new name nobodys that no one wants to see. Seems like an opportune time for other VR studios to market themselves against Jimmy and likewise SLR.

                          Seeing the loud overwhelming negative feedback on this thread, I wanted to chime in and throw in my two cents.

                          I am fully supportive @doublevr 's call on this, and applaud that he is taking a stand on this despite all the outcries.
                          While I am not familiar with Jimmy's content and have not followed the allegations in detail, that is irrelevant in my opinion. The man hasn't been convicted of anything. It doesn't seem right for us to pressure businesses to 'cancel' content producers based on twitter trials. This is not the place for this, and this is not how to do things right. Irrespective of whether Jimmy is guilty of anything, this is not a precedent we want to set.

                          Let Jimmy put his channel up. You don't have to watch anything he puts up on his channel. But please stop trying to turn this into some forum trial and pressure SLR to go along with this weird internet-vigilante sort of justice. This is not the way to do things right.

                          Again, throwing my comment in because I don't want SLR to get the impression that the negative opinions on this thread are representative of their entire customer base.

                          I keep hearing "it's his own channel, he's not officially affiliated with us" but that seems out of touch. Yes, you are technically right. But being technically right isn't going to stop people from associating Jimmy with SLR, whether that's right or not, as we already see.

                          I'm not here to tell you how to run the business but it's quite shocking to me that you believe potentially having many stars blacklist your studio is worth the risk of allowing Jimmy to have his own channel here. That doesn't make sense to me but /shrug. To each their own.