LifestylesVR channel - CANCELED

mebejoe

g2kbuffetboy At the heart of the matter, the majority of people here aren't trying to cancel Jimmy (he's already been canceled), nor are we trying to cancel models.

Yes, not really about cancelling. It's about SLR customers voicing their concerns about a producer with a bad reputation.

In the business areas I work in, we try to avoid doing business with people and companies with bad reputations, sometimes only because we do not want to our clients to thick we approve or endorse their conduct.

SLR has the $$$ for my lifetime subscription and even if they didn't, I wouldn't threaten to not renew. I love the website. That said, it seems questionable to associate with this person.

Jeef

I’ve made my opinion clear but I will add this….

On the one hand, I can understand not making a full throated apology because that is an admission of guilt and opens one up to litigation. It’s merely self preservation, and the American legal system can be very cutthroat. If, hypothetically any of us were in a similar situation I’m sure we would seek legal counsel and be walking on eggshells with any statements we put out. On the other hand, what’s been shared of his “apology” and how he presents himself on social media doesn’t exactly paint a very sympathetic picture. At best, he’s incredibly immature and unprofessional in how he presents himself, which doesn’t exactly say much for his potential innocence.

Again, I’m a guy who watches porn….I'm not so invested in any of this that I’d even for a second consider cancelling my account and I think anyone who does so is foolish. There’s far, far more significant causes to fight for in today’s world than this. I barely care, let adults make decisions for themselves and if they think he’s dangerous, by all means don’t work with him. But as others have said, if it was my business, I’d certainly take pause before working with someone who acts this way.

[deleted]

jaggyg33 Just use your @argyle43 account I know who you are, and it's not nice talking in my back. Thank you

blaze466

doublevr I’m not asking for any of this. I’m just asking SLR to not give him a channel, simple. It’s a bad look. I like SLR. I want it to be a company with a good reputation that models want to shoot for.

In regard to the so-called “canceling” him, is that not what he tried to do to those models that didn’t like the way they were treated? He tried to discredit them and paint them as being hard to work with. He may not have directly said that, but he certainly created an environment where that is what they were afraid of. They were worried of being cancelled from the industry for something that was forced upon them.

So, I don’t want to see a leader in the VR industry making his barrier to reentry into the industry easier. Imo, there is too much risk to your reputation at stake. If he wants back in, let him start from scratch. That’s not canceling him, that’s protecting your brand.

blaze466

Vrsumo2017 It should ultimately be the model’s choice. So, no, I don’t hold it against them at all.

If a hot model chooses to shoot for him, would I watch it? Yes, honestly, if she was hot AF AND she was comfortable shooting for him knowing who he is.

rerun119

Here is how I look at it
I read Alex statement back in Wankz days
Alex coal has shot hundreds of scenes with hundreds of directors
As far as I know she has only ever said one director was a piece of shit
That sounds like a credible story from my end
@doublevr do you believe her?

I never said jail or anything else, Just find a different director
I would think you should be on the pornstars side. It looks like you are on the business and money side.

Wendigo

Cbomb333 That's one of the reasons why I hate cancel culture.

"Cancel culture" is a bullshit term made up by people who don't like accepting consequences for their actions. Don't want to be "cancelled?" Don't be a dirtbag. And if you sincerely make a mistake, learn from it, atone for it, and make amends for it. Calling the company that fired you weak and the talent that you abused whores is NOT any of those things, so he obviously hasn't learned his lesson.

If you had a child or a parent who reported that someone in a position of trust abused them in the way that Jimmy abused these actresses, would you want them to not have access to people like your loved ones again, or would you be ranting about "cancel culture"?

Cbomb333

Wendigo What you're saying is rational. However, not sure I was "ranting" about cancel culture. Just trying to look at all sides and form an opinion. The only conclusion I have come to is only the performers and studios should decide whether this guy comes back to the industry. Curious to see what backlash from stars and studios comes to SLR if they provide Jimmy a platform. I can either just sub or not sub I suppose. I think the community here has more than adequately voiced their concerns.

HughMungus

Vrsumo2017 While you do raise a good point, i feel like the situation just can't be looked at the same way. The girls who still choose to work with him aren't in a position of power and they aren't abusing anyone, they are either girls that are ok with a rando director getting handsy with them or maybe they have bills to pay and they can't afford to say no to the job even if it's with a risky director.

rerun119

HughMungus Or they don't know the stories about him yet

rerun119

I read some people say how about second chances and something about people learning from their mistakes.

That sounds reasonable, where do I read the apology?

I assume it says something like "I'm very sorry the Alex felt the way she did. I never meant to hurt her in any way. I admit I have gotten handzey from time to time. There is no place for overstepping the bounds without consent, even on a porn set. I have truly learned from my mistakes and will never do something like that again. My deepest apologies."

I'm not a very good writer so I figure his reads a little better than that.

Can someone please upload his apologie.

Hairsational

Vrsumo2017 I know a lot are huge fans of melody marks, she's obviously supporting him and working with him, so do this mean she goes on their no fap list, is she canceled, are they gonna go to these hotties that film with him and say they no longer support them.

I mean also like a lot of his content he's worked on is all over the place, povr, vrporn and slr, I mean shouldn't a sub cancelation happened already but a cancelation is gonna happen now cus he's getting a channel to upload more content.

Idk, I don't get it. I mean
If you're really against this guys existences in the porn industry shouldn't you really be boycotting or canceling subs to any site that carries any of his content old or new.

And how yall know he hasn't filmed for any other vr studio since leaving wankz, most studios don't even mention directors names.

That post is full of dumb or uninformed takes.

1) Girls have no reason to be "cancelled" when Jimmy is the predator. Girls who don't have a problem working with Jimmy right now may ultimately learn the hard way when Jimmy inevitably attempts some sleezy shit that crosses the line, as Alex Coal and the other victims already found out.

2) The fact that Jimmy's content is on multiple sites means absolutely nothing. All his VR content was produced under contract for Wankz and he isn't profiting off that content now. Cancelling a sub to one of the sites that host his historical content does nothing to prevent him from preying on girls in future.

3) Jimmy hasn't worked for anyone other than Wankz. His original VR content has only been produced for WankzVR and sister sites.

Vrsumo2017

Hairsational Girls have no reason to be "cancelled"

OK so that's a no for you, no girls will be going on your no fap list if they work with the guy.
Got it. 👍

Imo these girls are not stupid, I'm pretty sure most these hotties who been in the industry long enough know about this situation.

Anyways, I'm out of this convo already, it puts a damper on my vr experience, 😕
Plus I was just asking a question, if these hotties male or female work with Jimmy and even tho they do know the situation, and maybe the booking agency books them with Jimmy, I'm pretty sure they're aware too, will they be going on yalls no fap list.

So far it's a no. 🤷‍♂️

SchnuppiLilac

Vrsumo2017 Anyways, I'm out of this convo already

Too bad. A few posts more and you could have made it on my fap list 😂

vrpicasso

Vrsumo2017 Look, people still watch Pulp Fiction even though Weistein produced it, no one who worked with him has been cancelled for that reason, even though some / most were aware of his reputation for years. Actors and especially models need money and you absolutely cannot say that just because a producer has been able to hire talent they are therefore reputable or the environment is safe. Putting the onus on the performer to make the right / smart decision is placing responsibility in entirely the wrong place.

chanser

ill add my comment. just dont give him a platform. people dont want his material. its not worth the risk to your reputation and there are other sites people can move to if they disapprove. your customer base is your biggest asset, not jimmy. you will grow without him, you risk growth with him. simple.

rustynailinabucket9

SchnuppiLilac Hope so

Also, as far as Jimmy goes, if this many people don't want the content why bother having it? Even if the guy did do nothing wrong, the people paying actively do not want him.

It's not even a moral decision, just looks like bad business. But what do I know

Avakian

Did the studio of Jimmy will be exclusive to SLR or his video will also be on vrporn/povr(well maybe not on this one)/... ?

doublevr

Avakian could be anywhere I guess

Xipernosky

doublevr
Look it’s 330am I was about to go to sleep and then I stumbled upon this post. I’ve purchased dozens of videos and would have bought a subscription a long time ago but thought, you know what? I want to support SLR for years to come not just pay a lump sum and get my moneys worth from nightly usage. Heck, I even was planning on applying to work at SLR. And you know what I always preach that y’all are the best in VR porn to my friend groups that are tight like that.

But after seeing THIS absolutely abhorrent response to this incident. It’s sad and it’s infuriating. Women in this industry go through so much SA and harassment from the public and sometimes even fans, there was a recent sad death that was tied to the industry because of EXACTLY this kind of behavior that is frankly inexcusable. Y’all will end up like Nijisanji if you don’t change your act immediately.

I will not mince words, I will NOT be purchasing any further videos I will NOT be recommending you as a service I will take EVERY OPPORTUNITY to badmouth discredit and insult this platform if you do not take immediate action. You must take women seriously especially performers that give everything and are risking the most only for you toss them aside like a used condom. It’s absolutely disgusting and quite frankly ruins this entire website if I can’t be sure that you are not treating your performers with the respect they deserve. I can’t imagine a bigger turn off than that always being at the back of my head the doubt that lingers there while playing any video here. If you platform this KNOWN ABUSER OF WOMEN on your site, you will lose all credibility, your devoted fans, your reason for existence.

REMOVE THIS ABUSER FROM YOUR PLATFORM AND STAND WITH THE WOMEN WHOS LITERAL BLOOD SWEAT AND TEARS FEEDS YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES

samuraiibob

Xipernosky If you platform this KNOWN ABUSER OF WOMEN on your site, you will lose all credibility, your devoted fans, your reason for existence.

REMOVE THIS ABUSER FROM YOUR PLATFORM AND STAND WITH THE WOMEN WHOS LITERAL BLOOD SWEAT AND TEARS FEEDS YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES

im not far from you. I wont totally not get videos anymore, especially if they are really hot and im a big fan of the talent, but i will lose respect and start moving away from it mentally. Kinda what happened to me and wankz, and i used to be a huge wankz fan. I just cant support it.

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