Enable WebXR on Apple Vision Pro to watch SexLikeReal

harigeharry

SchnuppiLilac Hmm good thinking, just tried it but unfortunately didn't work neither. When I enable the passthrough mode and use 'from video' then it just makes everything black except for the model. It doesnt mix in reality, like it does when you do the same on the quest 3 ...

Agathorn

No, nobody has PT because it isn't possible. Apple in their infinite wisdom made an MR platform and did not give developers any access to the camera feed. I don't mean "by default" I mean there is no way to get it, the user can not enable any permission to allow an app to access the camera feed. Thus it is IMPOSSIBLE right now to make any app that uses the camera image, such as a passthrough video player or anything else.

The only possible way this could work is if you can make the video itself simply have transparent parts and let the platform do the rest but I don't think that is doable either.

In the larger picture, as a developer that had a lot of ideas I wanted to try with this thing outside of porn, I REALLY hope Apple realizes how stupid this is. I know they did it for privacy but at least let the user choose to make that available to an app with permissions if they want to.

harigeharry

Agathorn But that can't be true. Tons of apps use MR with camera feed, like the game fruit ninja where fruit and ninjas appear in your own living room.

Agathorn

harigeharry They appear in the room sure but the app itself never sees the camera image. All they get is the structure of the room, which is essentially planes that show where walls, floors, and objects are. But they never see the image. that is all handled by the platform for them.

SchnuppiLilac

I understood on AVP the concept is that an app can add something to (augment) the camera feed but cannot add the camera feed to whatever is happening within the app and that's why the background in Play'a remains black in PT mode.

Agathorn

SchnuppiLilac Exactly. The only way it MIGHT currently work would be if you could play a video that had transparency on it, but to do that you would ALSO have to not be a full screen app like they currently do. It would need to be a MR app like how Apple handles the spatial photos/videos or panoramic photos where they don't fill the view but are overlaid on top. That might work but I don't know if there is any video format Apple supports that has transparency information in it, and I have to assume that the devs already tried this since it's the most logical work around.

harigeharry

Wow I hope you guys are not right 🙂 Because it would really s*ck big time (not in a good way) if we'd never get PT on the AVP!! It's just such an awesome device and then they limit it like this?? Damn

Agathorn

harigeharry The hope is Apple sees how stupid this is (I had plans for a bunch of different legit apps that needed the camera image) and changes it in a future OS version with pressure from devs.

The flip side though is I CAN see their point of view. The thought that some app might be secretly recording everything the cameras see and whisking that off to some server is certainly a concern. I mean do we really know what anyone with the image on Quest 3 is doing with it? For all we know Facebook is building a library of blackmail material as we speak 🙂

So there are valid privacy concerns. We just need to figure out the middle ground and allow users some choice in what they allow on a per application basis.

harigeharry

Agathorn Seems that unfortunately you were totally right. DeoVR said the same thing on their blog, they made some comments regarding passthrough:

Viewing passthrough content from DeoVR on the Vision Pro is not possible yet. It simply shows a black background, and the video quality can't be changed from the default of 1920p. This is because Apple does not give access to AR. It can not be enabled, even in the settings. However, as soon as they enable it in an update of the Vision Pro OS, it will be enabled automatically for all DeoVR users - there will be no need to release an update.

https://deovr.com/blog/80-vr-videos-on-the-apple-vision-pro

Jjhooke69

Honestly so tired of the lack of updates on the new app.

Kieshi

We have an update: the team seems to have figured out the colour profile to make the image less washed out, we will provide an update soon with this fix. Stay tuned!

GfLm

SchnuppiLilac
I upgraded from a quest pro. The image quality of the AVP is amazing, fov could be improved a little sure, but I’ve never gone back to the old headset. One of the most remarkable differences with the AVP is how good older 6k content looks. There’s not as drastic a drop off in picture clarity on the AVP, just because the resolution is a little lower. And 8k content brings the performers to life. You’ll appreciate the tiny reflections in a teardrop staining the model’s face after she chokes herself swallowing porn cock.

harigeharry

GfLm About the FoV, did you try this: remove the lightseal (the hard material) and then only use that soft rubberish part, between your face and the AVP. Adjust it so it stays in place. Then redo the eye setup. Light will leak in a bit, and you will get a warning about the AVP being too close to your eyes, just ignore it. It's WAY better like that!! And the FoV will be the same as you had before on your Quest!

And yeah the AVP image quality is just mind blowing.

Agathorn

harigeharry At the time I wrote that I was working at Unity technologies on Vision Pro content and working closely with the team responsible for the Vision Pro tools, so yeah.

That said I saw a Github project that was attempting to actually get a chromakey video working so I'm curious to see how that works. As I said originally you can't access the camera feed, but assuming you can render a video in the right mode that has transparency, then you should be able to just naturally see through to the real world without needing to superimpose the camera data.

Kieshi

Hi guys, we have released an update for player on AVP:

Correction of colour space: colour is not washed out anymore, looks more like Quest
Change of quality now possible inside immersive mode
Bug where you were not able to play video without sound being switched off fixed

Side note: please wait for player to load fully, before clicking anything. Normally it should work without any problem, but sometimes because of this, there light be slight lag.

Please check it out and give your opinion!

harigeharry

Kieshi It's super buggy, a video plays, then doesnt play, most dont play at all. HOWEVER the ones that I managed to play did look really TONS better than before!! If you can iron out the bugs I'd say it's usable for sure, no need to download video's anymore, although I do believe they still look slightly better downloaded. But it's getting really close now. Maybe the colors have a bit too high contrast now or a bit too saturated. But it's WAY better than before.

Also the controls keep popping up, would be way better if you could do it like Moonplayer does, so clicking with thumb and middle finger to show/hide controls and have it hidden until the user clicks his fingers. Or even thumb and index could work, but now the controls just get in the way because you move your eyes

mrdiscreet918

Kieshi Does this now apply to videos below the 42998 ID?

Kieshi

harigeharry I will pass it on to the team.
By the way, would you be able to make screenshot from downloaded video, so we can compare with what we have and figure out the better color scheme?

Controls popping up you mean that player UI appears while you watch video even though you did not pinch your fingers?

harigeharry

I closed safari and tried it again and now it actually worked better. So now I could compare it better to the downloaded video's First thing is that indeed the colors are now a bit oversaturated and the contrast is too high I think. It becomes very noticeable when you stop the 3d player and it returns to the 2d image, the colors look quite different. However compared to how it was before, it's MUCH better of course!

I also still see some framerate issue's, it's just not as smooth as it should be.

I think though that the main reason for me not to use it is the menu continually popping up. That kind of makes it unusable. So for now, will continue to download and stream via Moonplayer

harigeharry

Sure:

Webplayer:

Downloaded, moonplayer:

harigeharry

Looking at the above, it actually more seems like it's too dark. However if you see her skin color it's also more brownish in the above so that's what I figured the contrast is also too high. Then again I'm no expert when it comes to colors and contrast. But again, it's MILES better than how it was before (completely washed out). So it's good progress again for sure.

And yes, I mean the player UI appears while I'm not pinching any fingers at all. It seems mostly just looking down that activates it. Which is super annoying.

Kieshi

harigeharry got it, thank you very much for the info! I will pass it on to the devs

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