justsomedude101 We're also actively looking for more feedback on what you would all like to see regarding CGI environments.

What has worked for you and what hasn't? Dream locations? Any cool ideas on new locations that otherwise might not be possible to shoot at? We've gotten a TON of user feedback, but we're always looking for more 😃

Why was my post deleted? It was a specific answer and feedback to the question here. It was a perfectly valid answer that was 100% on topic and 100% factual.

So you delete posts that you simply don't like without any reason now again? Some things never change....

      LordCrash I deleted it for off-topic. There are dedicated places for your frustration. Keep it there.

      No further discussion is expected in this thread.

          Hairsational Nobodies eyes have line of sight to their own chin or neck, even when looking down as far as possible. So why is it that the male performer's chin and neck are visible??

          The position where the camera is is fine imo, it's not to close not to far, I can zoom in if needed, I'm actually zoomed out -80, but also you don't see his chin unless you actually tilt it to look at it.
          out of sight out of mind. And that position actually gives me a full body in regular vrp from shoulder traps down, its a realistic visual.

              Vrsumo2017 I'd say a sofa

              No. Sofas screw up the angles, and the girl can't do a proper seated cowgirl because she cant straddle the stuntcock and put both legs on either side easily.

                  Hairsational Strange that VR seemingly never got this level of attention.

                  💯

                  It's nice to see this level of interaction, but I hope it gets duplicated with VR directors as well.

                    justsomedude101 Doggy needs to stay in, a scene is rubbish if it has no doggy section whether in VR or PT. Particularly relevant for anyone whose favourite viewing angle is in doggy position which in real life is a common position enjoyed by many people, as much as missionary and cowgirl. These are like the 3 core positions in life lol

                    You may have a least well performing section in standard VR, it doesn't mean that this is evidence for removal. The logic goes that after you keep removing the least well performing section eventually you are left with one segment and if you remove that, you have no scene.

                        Vrsumo2017 The camera should not be closer - unless they decide to use a much taller guy but I do think the angle of the camera could be more realistic. Lots of AR feels almost like the '90 degree bend neck syndrome' we had in VR back in the days is back. At least to get it right it feels like I have to bend my head uncomfortably to get the 'view' right. I wish they would keep the same distance and angle the camera better and have the girl bend more forward for more time in this type of shot.

                        Hairsational Nobodies eyes have line of sight to their own chin or neck, even when looking down as far as possible. So why is it that the male performer's chin and neck are visible??

                        But they are still there, even if you can't see them irl. So the camera should not be moved closer if that's what you are referring to. No man's eyes sits lower than their nose, mouth, chin or neck. Yet for some reason in VR porn and now AR porn some people want the camera as low as possible and negate actual real life POV in sex positions.

                        I do agree that the angle could be improved though.

                              Wendigo but I sit on a sofa sometimes and since they use like a chair for seated cg it looks kinda wired cuz she like in a standing seated, I want her knees to look like they restingbon sofa sitting on me. Plus she can lay over his lap for foreplay, and lay her body flat on the sofa or in a doggy position on the sofa and do hand job and bj, you'll be sitting in your sofa and she'll look like she on your sofa. It will work.

                              But really i just want their knees to look like they on my sides resting on my sofa, if they can do that with a chair or whatever they use I'm cool with that too.

                                theHobbit Doggy needs to stay in,

                                I'd watch the doggy parts more if they pulled the camera up higher, most the time it's to low and in pt her ass looks like its up to my chest and zooming out doesn't help, the camera should be where the guys head is if it a lil 🤏 far I can zoom in, it's better to zoom in then zoom out. Imo

                                And the doggy i want is where both models are standing, it would it have to be right dead in the middle of the green room, no objects for her to lean on just straight up standing doggy, she can curve up ward to the cam for standing up straight doggy while looks back for eye contact and you can see her boobs over her shoulders. Also let Alpha Man hold her arms back while she holding her ass open taking that floating dick! Lol

                                Give me that doggy in pt and I'll spend more time watching doggy.

                                Yall know what else looks good in doggy, both standing but she leant over with her hands on a bed, she rest hands on the bed, face down on the bed, face down while she hold ass open with both hands, and lift a knee up to rest it on the bed, I've seen this with hacked pt.

                                And then transition into a Mish or side Mish, but the visual is her crawling up on to your bed showing off her ass, lays down dose some finger banging, maybe a back flip on your bed lol, then we get to the penatration and hopefully we have no cuts or no angle change. If any movement happens with the cam it just gets pushed forward at the same height.

                                But ultimately the cam needs to be higher during any doggy. 👍

                                  doublevr I deleted it for off-topic. There are dedicated places for your frustration. Keep it there.

                                  How about addressing these real issues then instead of acting like they didn't exist in the first place? This is not about "my frustration", it's about a very real issue that you simply don't address. Maybe that's the reason why I have to bring it up again and again, because you simply refuse to even just talk about it in whatever place, it just doesn't happen.

                                  And seriously, if you ask questions everybody should be allowed to give feedback and not only the people whose opinion and feedback you like. That's the whole point of a discussion forum and what people know as "free speech".

                                  You can take my post though, move it to some other thread you deem more fitting (ignoring the fact that your mod explicitly asked for feedback on this very topic here...) and simply answer the issue there. How's about that?

                                      OliverDK Yeah not necessarily suggesting to move camera closer, just tilting it back more should give a more realistic perspective

                                        marocks69 Try out multiple kinds of AR content ranging from virtual sex to 4 hand massages to JOI to GFE.

                                        Not these examples specifically, but we have talked about testing out non-POV segments, JOI and edging content, and some others for sure.

                                        fenderwq Just wanted to add that yes the striptease thing can be cool but it's just one of many ways to build up a scene. I think the most important part is to do some buildup in general.

                                        We pretty much all agree 😃

                                        Hairsational Strange that VR seemingly never got this level of attention.

                                        Simsensemedia spent a lot of time going back through his releases and put together a recap that we thought was cool, so we decided to share it some of the highlights. Shame on us I guess 🤷‍♂️

                                                I think a great scenario for passthrough would be a home visit from a high class escort, like in the Tonight’s Girlfriend series by Naughty America.

                                                I also love smooth black hold up stockings, with or without some additional tasteful black lingerie, such as in the picture below. Please have the models wear something like this throughout the entire scene, at least for escort/PSE scenes (although I’d be happy with every scene!)

                                                  justsomedude101 testing out non-POV segments

                                                  Do it, sit me next to a alpha bed and let's do a GGB scene, hotties in action first then a guy joins in. Put the cam positioned where someone's head would be while sitting next to the bed and leave it there, don't touch the camera and let them fuck! idk why this hasn't been done by now.

                                                  I encourage making bonus clips after a alpha floating dick production. 👍

                                                    justsomedude101 All in all the current plan is to aim for around 10% standing, 45% seated, and 45% laying segments in future releases.

                                                    If you are talking about the viewer position then personal i am for 100% laying ...45% looking VR porn seated - really ?!? this just cant be true ...lol
                                                    btw why you dont start a poll here and see what most of the people prefer ? Anyway - the best that really works so far in PT are laying view scenes and this is for sure ,so if you ask me - just bring more of them... I love doggy but it is just not suitable for PT and VR - IMHO

                                                        justsomedude101 All in all the current plan is to aim for around 10% standing, 45% seated, and 45% laying segments in future releases.

                                                        I propose to consider thinking about composing PT scenes differently. Not every position has to be in the same scene in PT like in VR, considering that viewers don't want to reposition themselves several times during the course of a scene. Maybe generate two parts or versions, fitting to the individual viewer's preferred way of watching.

                                                        Personally, I would prefer to have all standing and chair-seated positions in one video and all laying and sofa-seated (= the one in the middle between seated and laying) in another, because that would match the two different ways I am watching. Switching between chair-seated and standing is easy, while switching from or into laying is less covenient.

                                                        The only challenge I can see are the two different cumshot endings that would be needed.

                                                            I like the idea of making a whole scene just one angle so that there is not a need to shift yourself or your handy at all from start to finish. For example it can go striptease, BJ/HJ, cowgirl, and then end finish off with a Hj or facial etc. I don't see the need for standing even if it's just 10%. Switching positions is especially cumbersome when using something like a handy with a handsfree setup.

                                                            SchnuppiLilac Not every position has to be in the same scene

                                                            Agreed, as long as the most popular is in the scene, most likely laying cg rcg.

                                                            But like I been saying why not make bonus clips after the alpha production floating cock session.

                                                            Example, after...
                                                            They could film short vids like 20 mins.
                                                            You know how they do facesitting videos, the teasing, striping, up close?

                                                            Well imagine a stunt model in a alpha suit ("alpha man" lol)...with no cock out, they could do short "facesitting-ish" videos with added dry humping, hip grinding

                                                            Could do short 20mins of
                                                            • Laying facesitting with sum dry humping cg rcg
                                                            • Seated dancing, strip teasing with close ups and seated cg rcg dry humping
                                                            • Standing with stripper dancing with pole or no pole
                                                            She dance around you, comes up to you to put hands on you, foreplay and turns around for dry doggy and front standing Mish.

                                                            And the sex don't even have to be a full 5minutes, it can but I'd like a more red light green light approach, she fucks you for minute or two stops gets off you goes back to the pole or in laying position she stands back up for more facesitting

                                                            So basically it's like a facesitting but with dry humping threw out the scene, set the cam for one position laying, seated, standing or standing next to a bed and the model is on the bed for teasing, for play, doggy and mish, set the cam right, leave it alone and there's no story its just you your actual dick butt naked or you could watch clothed and you're with a hottie who's there to entertain you with her hottiness and flirtationness, and action 🎬

                                                            No floating dick give you the option to sit with clothes on or off, or she ask you to undress. And you undress your self.

                                                            I also said a guy with suit on but have him where clothes or a blanket over him.

                                                            Example
                                                            In laying cg if he's in alpha suit and has a blanket over him, when she pulls it off your body actually there butt naked. It literally looks like she reveals you by taking off the blanket

                                                            In standing if alpha man is wearing clothes she undresses him pulls his pants down but your body is revealed with the cock out.

                                                            My bad guys. When I'm haf I get these ideas running threw my brain.

                                                            Also
                                                            Lol if i was a director do I pay this pornstar male model or pay a fan or any one who'd work as a alpha man with no dick out, lol might be cheaper.

                                                            Lol where would one apply for that job lol 😆

                                                            But a alpha man is needed cuz in pt there needs to be a body to guide her where to touch, stand, dry hump...

                                                            A face sitting with dry humping would need an actual alpha man body below her, it works better cus she has a body to touch and actually sit on, I would say they could just use a male sex doll in an alpha suit but yall ever heard the saying "Boards don't hit back" well male sex dolls don't fuck back.

                                                            Alpha man needed 👍
                                                            And do bouns clips after the floating cock production.

                                                            I'll leave with this

                                                            In pt 👆
                                                            Alpha Man needed
                                                            And bonus clips👍🥂

                                                            Edit:
                                                            And on the real I'd make as much of short clips as possible while on set during alpha production.
                                                            Try ons, yoga, sit them on chair read me a book or something, interview them 🤷‍♂️ do something, there's usually a shower after right? Set up the shower green screened out so we get content of that. Make as much content as possible while yall have these hotties on set or dancing vids like BRIBRI up there.👍
                                                            And if no alpha man needed for non sexaul clips the cam has to be where the alpha man's head would be if he was standing laying or sitting veiwing the hottie. Set it don't touch it. 👍

                                                            Bound clips!