Thank you SLR for listening to feedback. My recommendation is to have some sort of grab bar rig that the performers can grab on to which is positioned adjacent to or behind the camera. This can make it look like they are grabbing the viewers shoulders, face or a natural prop like a chair backrest or headboard behind/above the viewer. It will allow for better mobility and support for them to really focus on the acting and focusing on user interaction (eye contact, etc.) without thinking of their balance too much.

The foreplay/striptease/posing is definitely the best feature of PT. The AR components also help like props for a strip club or massage table or some bondage device.

The big challenge of PT is lighting and positioning for the viewer. Being able to structure the story line to bring the experience to the viewers home would do the trick, otherwise rely on AR with CGI.

Another good feature to have on the PT is to inform the viewer of viewing angles like you mentioned in the post. Recommended for sitting, standing, laying. Also the room lighting. Another would be viewer activity if you want the viewer to actively interact or passively watching and getting pleased by the performer.

One idea for an active scene would be like fingering or some form of mixed JOI. All viewers have a bed or couch and you can easily put a performer there. Invite the viewer to be part of the action this will increase the interaction and immersion of the scene.

PornoConnoisseur great taste! Definitely cum on tits with arms up. I've yet to see more cumshot angles from classic porn like performer kneeling and looking up to viewer with cumshot encouragement or even a cum countdown.

    justsomedude101 I'm sure I've forgotten some things

    Yeah like using more alpha blanket during Intro and using again for cock rubbing and dry humping.

      justsomedude101 The more we talk PT, the more I'm reading a lot of feedback on content. I would recommend looking at various virtual sex POV content that's out there. One way to test the PT or MR market is to take advantage of the current shorts feature on the videos page. Try out multiple kinds of AR content ranging from virtual sex to 4 hand massages to JOI to GFE. There's plenty of room to experiment.

      I would recommend bringing in some indie performers/creators from Manyvids.There is proven success with a lot of niche content that's on there and they do well. It would be cool to adapt that kind of content into VR.

          Really cool to see you guys are onto this. Can't wait to see all this evolve.

          Just wanted to add that yes the striptease thing can be cool but it's just one of many ways to build up a scene. I think the most important part is to do some buildup in general. I'd like to see some more story elements in passthrough that play I into that your in your own room for instance. Some of the scenes released already have some nice buildup but I'd like to see that taken further. Like modern relationship or how JAV does a story.

          I also think that a more natural pacing works really well in passthrough. Like a VR edging scene or many of the jav scenes.

          I guess when it comes down to it I think the uninterrupted and more realistic scenes work the best for passthrough.

            justsomedude101 how to further step up the user experience to make AR content as mind-blowing as possible

            Strange that VR seemingly never got this level of attention.

            justsomedude101 So one of the biggest focuses going forward (as well as most commented on by users) is nailing down the perfect angles for each position

            This has been a problem forever on SLR and it's going to continue to be a problem unless a more scientific approach is taken to perfecting it. You need to walk before you can run though. Look at some of the obvious problems from the Simsense examples in your post:

            Nobodies eyes have line of sight to their own chin or neck, even when looking down as far as possible. So why is it that the male performer's chin and neck are visible??

            When someone is laying down do they ever have their head propped up at a 90° angle? No. Then why is the camera aimed parallel to the floor??

            Why is entire lower half of the frame wasted on the male's body? These shots could be framed so much better to highlight the girl.

                    justsomedude101 We're also actively looking for more feedback on what you would all like to see regarding CGI environments.

                    What has worked for you and what hasn't? Dream locations? Any cool ideas on new locations that otherwise might not be possible to shoot at? We've gotten a TON of user feedback, but we're always looking for more 😃

                    Why was my post deleted? It was a specific answer and feedback to the question here. It was a perfectly valid answer that was 100% on topic and 100% factual.

                    So you delete posts that you simply don't like without any reason now again? Some things never change....

                        LordCrash I deleted it for off-topic. There are dedicated places for your frustration. Keep it there.

                        No further discussion is expected in this thread.

                            Hairsational Nobodies eyes have line of sight to their own chin or neck, even when looking down as far as possible. So why is it that the male performer's chin and neck are visible??

                            The position where the camera is is fine imo, it's not to close not to far, I can zoom in if needed, I'm actually zoomed out -80, but also you don't see his chin unless you actually tilt it to look at it.
                            out of sight out of mind. And that position actually gives me a full body in regular vrp from shoulder traps down, its a realistic visual.

                                Vrsumo2017 I'd say a sofa

                                No. Sofas screw up the angles, and the girl can't do a proper seated cowgirl because she cant straddle the stuntcock and put both legs on either side easily.

                                    Hairsational Strange that VR seemingly never got this level of attention.

                                    💯

                                    It's nice to see this level of interaction, but I hope it gets duplicated with VR directors as well.

                                      justsomedude101 Doggy needs to stay in, a scene is rubbish if it has no doggy section whether in VR or PT. Particularly relevant for anyone whose favourite viewing angle is in doggy position which in real life is a common position enjoyed by many people, as much as missionary and cowgirl. These are like the 3 core positions in life lol

                                      You may have a least well performing section in standard VR, it doesn't mean that this is evidence for removal. The logic goes that after you keep removing the least well performing section eventually you are left with one segment and if you remove that, you have no scene.

                                          Vrsumo2017 The camera should not be closer - unless they decide to use a much taller guy but I do think the angle of the camera could be more realistic. Lots of AR feels almost like the '90 degree bend neck syndrome' we had in VR back in the days is back. At least to get it right it feels like I have to bend my head uncomfortably to get the 'view' right. I wish they would keep the same distance and angle the camera better and have the girl bend more forward for more time in this type of shot.

                                          Hairsational Nobodies eyes have line of sight to their own chin or neck, even when looking down as far as possible. So why is it that the male performer's chin and neck are visible??

                                          But they are still there, even if you can't see them irl. So the camera should not be moved closer if that's what you are referring to. No man's eyes sits lower than their nose, mouth, chin or neck. Yet for some reason in VR porn and now AR porn some people want the camera as low as possible and negate actual real life POV in sex positions.

                                          I do agree that the angle could be improved though.

                                                Wendigo but I sit on a sofa sometimes and since they use like a chair for seated cg it looks kinda wired cuz she like in a standing seated, I want her knees to look like they restingbon sofa sitting on me. Plus she can lay over his lap for foreplay, and lay her body flat on the sofa or in a doggy position on the sofa and do hand job and bj, you'll be sitting in your sofa and she'll look like she on your sofa. It will work.

                                                But really i just want their knees to look like they on my sides resting on my sofa, if they can do that with a chair or whatever they use I'm cool with that too.

                                                  theHobbit Doggy needs to stay in,

                                                  I'd watch the doggy parts more if they pulled the camera up higher, most the time it's to low and in pt her ass looks like its up to my chest and zooming out doesn't help, the camera should be where the guys head is if it a lil 🤏 far I can zoom in, it's better to zoom in then zoom out. Imo

                                                  And the doggy i want is where both models are standing, it would it have to be right dead in the middle of the green room, no objects for her to lean on just straight up standing doggy, she can curve up ward to the cam for standing up straight doggy while looks back for eye contact and you can see her boobs over her shoulders. Also let Alpha Man hold her arms back while she holding her ass open taking that floating dick! Lol

                                                  Give me that doggy in pt and I'll spend more time watching doggy.

                                                  Yall know what else looks good in doggy, both standing but she leant over with her hands on a bed, she rest hands on the bed, face down on the bed, face down while she hold ass open with both hands, and lift a knee up to rest it on the bed, I've seen this with hacked pt.

                                                  And then transition into a Mish or side Mish, but the visual is her crawling up on to your bed showing off her ass, lays down dose some finger banging, maybe a back flip on your bed lol, then we get to the penatration and hopefully we have no cuts or no angle change. If any movement happens with the cam it just gets pushed forward at the same height.

                                                  But ultimately the cam needs to be higher during any doggy. 👍

                                                    doublevr I deleted it for off-topic. There are dedicated places for your frustration. Keep it there.

                                                    How about addressing these real issues then instead of acting like they didn't exist in the first place? This is not about "my frustration", it's about a very real issue that you simply don't address. Maybe that's the reason why I have to bring it up again and again, because you simply refuse to even just talk about it in whatever place, it just doesn't happen.

                                                    And seriously, if you ask questions everybody should be allowed to give feedback and not only the people whose opinion and feedback you like. That's the whole point of a discussion forum and what people know as "free speech".

                                                    You can take my post though, move it to some other thread you deem more fitting (ignoring the fact that your mod explicitly asked for feedback on this very topic here...) and simply answer the issue there. How's about that?

                                                        OliverDK Yeah not necessarily suggesting to move camera closer, just tilting it back more should give a more realistic perspective