justsomedude101 how to further step up the user experience to make AR content as mind-blowing as possible

Strange that VR seemingly never got this level of attention.

justsomedude101 So one of the biggest focuses going forward (as well as most commented on by users) is nailing down the perfect angles for each position

This has been a problem forever on SLR and it's going to continue to be a problem unless a more scientific approach is taken to perfecting it. You need to walk before you can run though. Look at some of the obvious problems from the Simsense examples in your post:

Nobodies eyes have line of sight to their own chin or neck, even when looking down as far as possible. So why is it that the male performer's chin and neck are visible??

When someone is laying down do they ever have their head propped up at a 90° angle? No. Then why is the camera aimed parallel to the floor??

Why is entire lower half of the frame wasted on the male's body? These shots could be framed so much better to highlight the girl.

          justsomedude101 We're also actively looking for more feedback on what you would all like to see regarding CGI environments.

          What has worked for you and what hasn't? Dream locations? Any cool ideas on new locations that otherwise might not be possible to shoot at? We've gotten a TON of user feedback, but we're always looking for more 😃

          Why was my post deleted? It was a specific answer and feedback to the question here. It was a perfectly valid answer that was 100% on topic and 100% factual.

          So you delete posts that you simply don't like without any reason now again? Some things never change....

              LordCrash I deleted it for off-topic. There are dedicated places for your frustration. Keep it there.

              No further discussion is expected in this thread.

                  Hairsational Nobodies eyes have line of sight to their own chin or neck, even when looking down as far as possible. So why is it that the male performer's chin and neck are visible??

                  The position where the camera is is fine imo, it's not to close not to far, I can zoom in if needed, I'm actually zoomed out -80, but also you don't see his chin unless you actually tilt it to look at it.
                  out of sight out of mind. And that position actually gives me a full body in regular vrp from shoulder traps down, its a realistic visual.

                      Vrsumo2017 I'd say a sofa

                      No. Sofas screw up the angles, and the girl can't do a proper seated cowgirl because she cant straddle the stuntcock and put both legs on either side easily.

                          Hairsational Strange that VR seemingly never got this level of attention.

                          💯

                          It's nice to see this level of interaction, but I hope it gets duplicated with VR directors as well.

                            justsomedude101 Doggy needs to stay in, a scene is rubbish if it has no doggy section whether in VR or PT. Particularly relevant for anyone whose favourite viewing angle is in doggy position which in real life is a common position enjoyed by many people, as much as missionary and cowgirl. These are like the 3 core positions in life lol

                            You may have a least well performing section in standard VR, it doesn't mean that this is evidence for removal. The logic goes that after you keep removing the least well performing section eventually you are left with one segment and if you remove that, you have no scene.

                                Vrsumo2017 The camera should not be closer - unless they decide to use a much taller guy but I do think the angle of the camera could be more realistic. Lots of AR feels almost like the '90 degree bend neck syndrome' we had in VR back in the days is back. At least to get it right it feels like I have to bend my head uncomfortably to get the 'view' right. I wish they would keep the same distance and angle the camera better and have the girl bend more forward for more time in this type of shot.

                                Hairsational Nobodies eyes have line of sight to their own chin or neck, even when looking down as far as possible. So why is it that the male performer's chin and neck are visible??

                                But they are still there, even if you can't see them irl. So the camera should not be moved closer if that's what you are referring to. No man's eyes sits lower than their nose, mouth, chin or neck. Yet for some reason in VR porn and now AR porn some people want the camera as low as possible and negate actual real life POV in sex positions.

                                I do agree that the angle could be improved though.

                                      Wendigo but I sit on a sofa sometimes and since they use like a chair for seated cg it looks kinda wired cuz she like in a standing seated, I want her knees to look like they restingbon sofa sitting on me. Plus she can lay over his lap for foreplay, and lay her body flat on the sofa or in a doggy position on the sofa and do hand job and bj, you'll be sitting in your sofa and she'll look like she on your sofa. It will work.

                                      But really i just want their knees to look like they on my sides resting on my sofa, if they can do that with a chair or whatever they use I'm cool with that too.

                                        theHobbit Doggy needs to stay in,

                                        I'd watch the doggy parts more if they pulled the camera up higher, most the time it's to low and in pt her ass looks like its up to my chest and zooming out doesn't help, the camera should be where the guys head is if it a lil 🤏 far I can zoom in, it's better to zoom in then zoom out. Imo

                                        And the doggy i want is where both models are standing, it would it have to be right dead in the middle of the green room, no objects for her to lean on just straight up standing doggy, she can curve up ward to the cam for standing up straight doggy while looks back for eye contact and you can see her boobs over her shoulders. Also let Alpha Man hold her arms back while she holding her ass open taking that floating dick! Lol

                                        Give me that doggy in pt and I'll spend more time watching doggy.

                                        Yall know what else looks good in doggy, both standing but she leant over with her hands on a bed, she rest hands on the bed, face down on the bed, face down while she hold ass open with both hands, and lift a knee up to rest it on the bed, I've seen this with hacked pt.

                                        And then transition into a Mish or side Mish, but the visual is her crawling up on to your bed showing off her ass, lays down dose some finger banging, maybe a back flip on your bed lol, then we get to the penatration and hopefully we have no cuts or no angle change. If any movement happens with the cam it just gets pushed forward at the same height.

                                        But ultimately the cam needs to be higher during any doggy. 👍

                                          doublevr I deleted it for off-topic. There are dedicated places for your frustration. Keep it there.

                                          How about addressing these real issues then instead of acting like they didn't exist in the first place? This is not about "my frustration", it's about a very real issue that you simply don't address. Maybe that's the reason why I have to bring it up again and again, because you simply refuse to even just talk about it in whatever place, it just doesn't happen.

                                          And seriously, if you ask questions everybody should be allowed to give feedback and not only the people whose opinion and feedback you like. That's the whole point of a discussion forum and what people know as "free speech".

                                          You can take my post though, move it to some other thread you deem more fitting (ignoring the fact that your mod explicitly asked for feedback on this very topic here...) and simply answer the issue there. How's about that?

                                              OliverDK Yeah not necessarily suggesting to move camera closer, just tilting it back more should give a more realistic perspective

                                                marocks69 Try out multiple kinds of AR content ranging from virtual sex to 4 hand massages to JOI to GFE.

                                                Not these examples specifically, but we have talked about testing out non-POV segments, JOI and edging content, and some others for sure.

                                                fenderwq Just wanted to add that yes the striptease thing can be cool but it's just one of many ways to build up a scene. I think the most important part is to do some buildup in general.

                                                We pretty much all agree 😃

                                                Hairsational Strange that VR seemingly never got this level of attention.

                                                Simsensemedia spent a lot of time going back through his releases and put together a recap that we thought was cool, so we decided to share it some of the highlights. Shame on us I guess 🤷‍♂️

                                                        I think a great scenario for passthrough would be a home visit from a high class escort, like in the Tonight’s Girlfriend series by Naughty America.

                                                        I also love smooth black hold up stockings, with or without some additional tasteful black lingerie, such as in the picture below. Please have the models wear something like this throughout the entire scene, at least for escort/PSE scenes (although I’d be happy with every scene!)

                                                          justsomedude101 testing out non-POV segments

                                                          Do it, sit me next to a alpha bed and let's do a GGB scene, hotties in action first then a guy joins in. Put the cam positioned where someone's head would be while sitting next to the bed and leave it there, don't touch the camera and let them fuck! idk why this hasn't been done by now.

                                                          I encourage making bonus clips after a alpha floating dick production. 👍

                                                            justsomedude101 All in all the current plan is to aim for around 10% standing, 45% seated, and 45% laying segments in future releases.

                                                            If you are talking about the viewer position then personal i am for 100% laying ...45% looking VR porn seated - really ?!? this just cant be true ...lol
                                                            btw why you dont start a poll here and see what most of the people prefer ? Anyway - the best that really works so far in PT are laying view scenes and this is for sure ,so if you ask me - just bring more of them... I love doggy but it is just not suitable for PT and VR - IMHO

                                                                justsomedude101 All in all the current plan is to aim for around 10% standing, 45% seated, and 45% laying segments in future releases.

                                                                I propose to consider thinking about composing PT scenes differently. Not every position has to be in the same scene in PT like in VR, considering that viewers don't want to reposition themselves several times during the course of a scene. Maybe generate two parts or versions, fitting to the individual viewer's preferred way of watching.

                                                                Personally, I would prefer to have all standing and chair-seated positions in one video and all laying and sofa-seated (= the one in the middle between seated and laying) in another, because that would match the two different ways I am watching. Switching between chair-seated and standing is easy, while switching from or into laying is less covenient.

                                                                The only challenge I can see are the two different cumshot endings that would be needed.

                                                                    I like the idea of making a whole scene just one angle so that there is not a need to shift yourself or your handy at all from start to finish. For example it can go striptease, BJ/HJ, cowgirl, and then end finish off with a Hj or facial etc. I don't see the need for standing even if it's just 10%. Switching positions is especially cumbersome when using something like a handy with a handsfree setup.