SLR Originals reset plan - Nov '23
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vrguy69 I am not antagonising targeting or trolling lol. I am responding to some points and disagreeing and hence why you are responding in this manner. If you go through my post history, I have never once resorted to calling on anybody at SLR to remove people because of opinions I dislike.
You fail to recognise the many comments I make agreeing with many other members, which is very strange 
Also as always I am always on board with SLR's strategic direction and wish the site I pay money into success whatever decision they choose to employ. This is unlike some others like yourself who entertain the notion of SLR users 'flocking to other sites' simply on whimsical pretexts that you disagree with some of the strategic direction being employed by this site.
Hopefully this is cogent enough for you.
PS.
vrguy69 conducive
I used that word earlier in the thread .....
theHobbit conducive
your brain must have picked up on it and thought wow that @theHobbit is pretty smart with his words even with his low IQ . you're welcome x
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theHobbit I am not antagonising targeting or trolling lol.
this you?
theHobbit whether I am trolling or not is a moot point lol
this also you?
theHobbit This is unlike some others like yourself who entertain the notion of SLR users 'flocking to other sites' simply on whimsical pretexts that you disagree with some of the strategic direction being employed by this site.
lol so if I don't feel like I'm getting my money's worth I should just stay anyway? Something smells like shill...
theHobbit Also as always I am always on board with SLR's strategic direction
Yeah except when they cast "young girls that have small boobs and no asses" 
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gogofbob Maybe I'm vanilla, but one of the reasons I often don't watch SLR originals is because the acting and dirty-talk is often truly horrendous (and that's taking into account that it's porn). Having the girl constantly saying the same tired lines as nearly every other actor in the SLR originals gets old really quick -- I remember one recent addition who looked stunning but completely ruined the scenes because she couldn't stop saying "Oh My God" every second. Less is more. I look at stars like Ann Joy as the gold standard for this -- she manages to be smoking sexy without having to say very much at all (and when she does, it's crazy hot and not fake sounding
That's my main issue with Western porn, 100% agree.
Where CzechVR or JAV often thrive is when there's just eye contact and intimacy, with little words added and the scene not getting too loud (but nice whispering or kissing, leaning in).
But unfortunately, a lot of Western porn is very fake in comparison, the actress often throughout the entire video loudly moan or yell stuff like "oh yea" or "fk me harder", it just isn't realistic and makes it feel like very basic 2d porn, instead of having an intimate experience.
And I noticed that even in scenes where the camera is closer, it will often not focus on the face of the performer, or there's a lack of continuing eye contact (which again is sometimes related to the yelling and excessive moaning I mentioned, the performer will just stare into the distance and excessively moan, instead of interacting with the pov model/camera).
I really hope SLR takes note, I'm slightly optimistic because of the bigger focus on Alex Nash and the matchaslr guy seeming a very big fan of jav.
Timbama I also 100% agree.
Timbama Very much in disagreement with this. Dirty talk is a huge part of porn for me, especially in VR when there’s not much else going on. I agree that girls just saying “oh my god”, “oh fuck”, “right there” over and over is boring and irritating.
I do want dirtier stuff though “fuck me” “fuck me harder” “fuck me like a whore” “treat me like the dirty slut I am”. I like when girls talk shit to me too, call me a dirty pervert, a sick fuck or whatever. If there’s two girls, I like them shit talking each other “suck his cock you filthy whore”, that type of stuff. Taboo roleplay dirty talk is great too.
The last thing I want to see is a girl who hardly opens her mouth and just fake moans through the scene or does nothing at all. It’s adult entertainment, I want a performance and to be entertained not just watch people have boring sex.
doublevr Plus more laying position
While I agree that for PT vids it's rather disruptive to have the exact same constant cut and position change choreography as in VR, it would be a pity if this means that there will be less non-laying positions. Although laying positions work well, I usually prefer watching in a sitting position which works okay with laying positions in VR but not so well in PT. Moreover, I really like standing positions in PT (provided that the positioning is done right and will match with my own body). And the standing intro of 'On the Double' might have been my favorite and most immersive moment in PT so far.
Timbama huge agree with this
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vrguy69 lol so if I don't feel like I'm getting my money's worth I should just stay anyway? Something smells like shill...
You folk make no sense. Nobody said that. You said that people will leave blah blah. I said which sites. You said blah blah. I said it'll cost around $75 lol. You then proceeded to cry to doubleVR that I am trolling you. and implied that SLR should do something about it. Honestly haha.
Also you need to cross CzechVr of your list. 
Hairsational Yeah except when they cast "young girls that have small boobs and no asses"
I don't mind this, I just don't think that this should be the norm like some of you enjoy - I am a proponent of diverse body types and looks. Nowhere has SLR said that 'small boobs and no asses' is their strategy going forward.
Also you seem to think I don't enjoy these girls. I do. I mean recently I watched Sophie Reyez in PT and she was great and so yummy. I especially enjoyed that she was in PT. It satisfied me no end that there were some complaining people who dislike PT and didn't or wouldn't enjoy the gorgeous sexy Sophie the way I did. I think I came a bit harder than normal with that thought in mind hahaha
SchnuppiLilac Sophie Reyez 
licks lips
petermc dirty talk can be great and I don't think timbama means he doesn't like that. It's the mindless shit and the overacting. Dirty talk can be super sexy when it comes from a believable place with good timing. Not so much if it is just mechanically thrown around and you get that standard porn talk non stop.
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petermc I do want dirtier stuff though “fuck me” “fuck me harder” “fuck me like a whore” “treat me like the dirty slut I am”. I like when girls talk shit to me too, call me a dirty pervert, a sick fuck or whatever. If there’s two girls, I like them shit talking each other “suck his cock you filthy whore”, that type of stuff. Taboo roleplay dirty talk is great too.
This can sometimes be interesting, but frankly it sounds like a humiliation/degradation kink. Which is fine, but it shouldn't be the norm.
petermc I want a performance and to be entertained not just watch people have boring sex.
Sometimes it seems that you want to just port gonzo non-POV flat porn to VR. Which, again, is fine if that is what floats your boat, but I think it is a waste of the immersive experience that VR can offer.
It seems like we need 3 divisions: SLR Passthrough, SLR TrueVR, and SLR Voyeur (non-POV). 
1 or 2 releases a week for each division, everyone wins.
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Nash is the least popular director based on averaging likes for the last 22 scenes. Simense are killing it.
Wendigo Wendigo agreed, the selling point of VR Porn is immersion, I’m not exactly immersed when the acting feels really forced and not based in reality, there’s a place for it and I’m not saying it shouldn’t exist, more or less it shouldn’t be the priority with the over saturation that already exists.
Wendigo gets it, PT + immersion is a big win.
Hell, a GFE JAV Style PT scene would do amazing numbers if approached the right way, little nuanced storylines also help with immersion as well
