Resetting Originals production

vrguy69 yea its such a hard thing to pin point, I think part of it might be the language barrier with JAV porn, since we dont actually understand them its easier for us to think their performance and lines are more believable and not at all raunchy or cliché, but who knows what actual japanese speakers feel like about them lol either way one of the things I do love about the JAV scenes are the level of intimacy they create and the commitment of the actress to make you feel really intimate with them, its so sexy when its done with one of your favorite actresses on top of that. I have yet to experience something similar with any English studio release so far.

alkory lol damn dude, why the hate on the PT scenes? Have you tried them out yet on a decent PT headset like the quest 3 or pico 4 or whatever that latest model is? If so, how can you not at the very least appreciate the innovation they are doing with PT at this moment? Is it perfect? Probably not but you can at least say they are trying new things. I bet you probably just feel like they are simply wasting resources with something you are not a fan of instead of fixing what in your opinion is not working? Thats also not a bad thing just say that instead, PT is pretty dope and its still in its infancy state at best. Wait until the masking and headset color cameras get really good

Matt12345 All good points, damn near one of the most civilized responses on this damn thread haha
I can definitely see where you are coming from, the autistic side of me I guess just loves the constant jump from one innovation to another. I tend to work on projects and skillsets the same way, start something, go full force and then hop to something else that catches my eye. I can respect your point of view and I'm not so far detached from my own biases to agree that perhaps some of this is definitely at play and felt by a good group of people as well. I hope those areas do improve because they sure are fundamentals and they should be mostly spot on by any major studio producing and charging for scenes at this level.

alkory yes, for the 3rd party scenes (Realjamvr, porncornvr, VRPLayful)

so SLR has provided a cost effective solution for you giving you 3 sites for a cheaper price than what you would pay if you had to individually subscribe to Real Jam and PornCorn. You are getting VRPlayful as a bonus. And here you are finding it 'funny' if you lose that benefit from your subscription. Strange logic bro.

Matt12345 I think part of the problem is that the SLR Originals producers are stuck in their ways and aren't trying to fine-tune things like camera position to a level of perfection like CzechVR has done. SLR just throws money at their producers and says "here, make some porno" and there is no real incentive for these types of improvements to be made.

theHobbit makes you wonder what purpose the director has sometimes.

Yeah even Nash's recent scenes was also same, well I guess one improvement the kissing scenes and intimacy is longer in some videos like Sisi Rose's Fever etc. But the positions are exact same.

metichemsi I have all my jav auto translated and while not perfect you can completely follow the story and most of what is said. From that I can tell the stories are often very creative and diverse and understanding them only makes it more intimate imo (would be insane if Japanese is your native language).

Totally agree on the intimacy part. The best JAV scenes are still so much better in that than the best western counterparts. Not that there aren't any intimate scenes around here it's just another level and much more prevalent. I think generally more of the scenes here should take a lesson.

I don't think it's just one thing that makes JAV more intimate either. It's a lot of little things like: not rushing, how the girls are often comfortable and present, warm, not over acting, over moaning, fucking like a gf instead of a porn star, etc. Then there is the camera placement, how the girls are often very close to you, the kissing, licking, positions, pacing, role play, scene build up, creative scenarios, scene length, not trying to push in every position in roughly the same sequence every time. The girls that do JAV are also just better in doing these kind of scenes I think.

Still hoping SLR will take more lessons from JAV. I think these kind of scenes will also work extremely well in passthrough.

I actually think Alex Mack has improved and I’m sorry to hear his stuff is being scaled back. One scene per month though? Is it even worth the bother for either him or you.

Does this mean we’re just getting Alex Nash/John Strong scenes now? That would be a disaster for me as I think their stuff is mostly terrible. Unless 2.0 means he’s doing something different?

At some point it would be nice if you slowed down and took the time to perfect your productions instead of constantly trying to innovate. That said, you are correct in your assertion that everyone is shooting the same generic content.

alkory I know you don't agree with me but that's because you are a PT fanboy/badly shot scenes so "it's ok".

you are a bit behind on times your favourite studio RealJamVR are polling people on producing PT. Guess what, users are overwhelmingly voting for PT, so there you were laughing at SLR and now another studio is trying to get in on SLR's success and dominance in this space.

So it just goes to show that many of you folk who rudely extol other studios as being better than SLR haven't got a clue what you are talking about and its these other studios that are following SLR's lead.

Matt12345 But ye lol , you super fans of PT and anti-fans have some very odd ways of viewing things and one another's arguments lol

...yeah, basically this.

This whole forum is like a stuck record the moment PT is mentioned, it just implodes.

PT is just one aspect of VR, it has not replaced VR, it is new. It's just another way to view stuff with a VR headset, it has a niche appeal, just like VR does, and has many limitations at present, just like VR does.

The real issue is the passion that people have for a website that they have sunk money and emotional support into. If they think that thing they love is being threatened in some way, they will react negatively. And a lot of people have sunk a lot of money and passion into SLR. So when they see content being removed, or a particular way of shooting gaining prominence, they react emotionally.

it's not rocket science... it's people science....

What SLR need to do is be more clear in how they are dealing with these issues. To be more understanding about the love people have for the content, and to be more understanding about the way their customers react when it gets rug-pulled from under them. Perhaps calling the entire community 'a bunch of fucking idiots' because a single person questions a decision, is maybe not the best way to resolve a complaint. If you're not being clear about how decisions are made, then expect the customers responses to be volatile and uninformed as a result.

As to the topic at hand, the answer is quite simple, experiment, be more human, write some interesting scripts, get back to your roots! People generally consider the best SLRO material to be from a couple of years ago... just... do it like that again?

The largest elephant in the room, that i wanna touch on briefly, is the fact that VR will never, ever, be the equal of 2D (and vice versa). 2D is the mind's eye, the use of a single plane to create an image, essentially this hasn't changed since we started slapping burnt ochre on cave walls 50k years ago. We had an idea in our head, and this was a way to transmit it to another entity. And it's been that way ever since, the 2D image is the mind's eye, an entirely subjective thing, constantly trying to approximate an objective view. Recent cinema has tried to blend this as much as possible, the found footage genre, the film "Hardcore Henry", but essentially it's still a subjective view cleverly imitating the objective one.

VR is the objective view. It is the slave of the objective view. It is bound irresolutely to it. And it's why it's so god-damn fucking good. It 'cheats' its way past all the conventions of the last 50k years, it inserts your consciousness into that of another, and allows you to experience a visual reality in a very similar manner to the entity experiencing it. Bound as you are to that entity, you still have the ability, within that volume, to choose what you're looking at. And thus it becomes truly objective, no longer are you directed in what you see, perception is no longer curated, you're free to look at whatever you want. That's what makes it REALITY, virtual or not. And that's why interactives work so well in VR, they're another experience to 'fool' the biology into believing the reality. The more immersive the interaction become, the better it becomes.

So, with those limitations, and advantages in mind, make some truly immersive SLRO's, please. Blow my tiny fucking mind with the amazing experiences. Put me into people, and places i've never been. Or put somebody i'd never expected into my bedroom, (why is PT all cute vanilla girls?), gimme MILF, gimme weird, gimme somebody sitting on my cock for 20 mins just talking hypnotically, wtvr, just get outside the box, and keep going...

xD

doublevr It feels like mainstream content production is saturated. Too many people are shooting very similar scenes and there's very little innovation on production side of things.

Just a suggestion:

There's a ton of creators that do POV taboo roleplaying virtual sex with success in 2D land. I've been in contact with some of them on eg. X and OnlyFans and they do express interest in VR but they simply don't have the knowhow to do it.

What can these people bring to VR? Well they obviously have large fanbases but what's better is they know how to act out a engaging POV roleplay. They are productive. They are creative. They think out of the box. Just try and take a look at Sydney Harwin - she's a creative and productive powerhouse making at times full feature almost 2 hour long mom/son roleplays all on her own. Recently she managed to gather 25 mom/son roleplaying actress from around the globe in one long 4 hours movie and got it all done within 2-3 weeks. That's quite a feat.

Penny Parker is among these superstars - look at the success of her scenes on your platform. There's clearly a market for it and you could be the provider of it in VR/AR. There's so many names you could look at - Sydney Harwin, Jodi West, Mindy Mink, Bettie Bondage, Xev Bellringer, Sloan Moans, Rhea Sweet, Kelly Payne, Larkin Love and the list goes on and on.

You have the knowhow these superstars in their field lack. Taboo roleplays are clearly one of the most popular niches in porn. Why not try to establish contact with a couple of them, offer them advice, maybe even a setup and how to film correctly for VR and get them to release exclusively on SLR. It doesn't even have to be 8K.