Resetting Originals production

vrguy69

metichemsi Damn good point. I revisit more scenes that are lower visual quality than higher ones that seem copy paste. I don't personally care about things like BDSM and niche kinks, although there's a time and place for everything, but maybe some more teasing/ voyeurism (i.e. "return to Aquarius Spa with ACC and Jamie Jett) and setting changes would be a good place to start freshening things up.

fenderwq

vrguy69 resolution and good creative content are not mutually exclusive. I don't get why people so often think that a new camera means you have to slack of with everything else. Sure for a few scenes you l'll have to get to know the new gear but after that you just have better resolution which is very important too.

I think it's just paranoia rooted in the issues related with the introduction of the Canon camera. Nobody ever complained about camera upgrades for long before. In fact they where almost always universally celebrated.

metichemsi

vrguy69 yea its such a hard thing to pin point, I think part of it might be the language barrier with JAV porn, since we dont actually understand them its easier for us to think their performance and lines are more believable and not at all raunchy or cliché, but who knows what actual japanese speakers feel like about them lol either way one of the things I do love about the JAV scenes are the level of intimacy they create and the commitment of the actress to make you feel really intimate with them, its so sexy when its done with one of your favorite actresses on top of that. I have yet to experience something similar with any English studio release so far.

HughMungus

I think you guys mostly do a pretty good job.

The last month or so the casting has been a lot more unknown girls, a few milf scenes, and 4 Jia Lissa scenes(2 would have been enough)

But there's also been a few really good scenes, well castings really. It seems like casting is the most important thing for driving likes. Maybe you should get someone to communicate more with members in the casting threads or do some polls on who people want to see next?

Also, i can't think of any girl that i want to see 4 similar scenes from in a 1 month time frame. Jia Lissa is great, but that's just too many.

Hairsational

HughMungus Also, i can't think of any girl that i want to see 4 similar scenes from in a 1 month time frame. Jia Lissa is great, but that's just too many.

I like Jia too but all those scenes were so samey. They could have shot a few other girls instead of shooting the same scene 4 times.

theHobbit

alkory will be funny when they slowly retire from SLR

why will it be funny?

alkory

theHobbit because they are most likely part of their success. Nobody is invincible.

theHobbit

alkory do you subscribe to SLR?

dineshweb

Pls add some more positions , right now it's always the same 2 cowgirl at seated, 1 missionary and 1 closeup mish and 2 cowgirl laying down, 1 doggy. Add some more positions here and there pronebone, standing missionary, standing 69 (that's was creative one from @VRPlayful 's part), side by side. and give the character time to build , not fully naked and giving a bj within 5mins.

theHobbit

dineshweb Pls add some more positions , right now it's always the same 2 cowgirl at seated, 1 missionary and 1 closeup mish and 2 cowgirl laying down, 1 doggy

the doggy section in L.E.N.A (Lena Paul) was great and full of variety but it seems the models are not as creative compared to the more established performers and makes you wonder what purpose the director has sometimes.

MajesticHD

How about kissing in the pool, taking a shower together, standing doggy in the shower, driving home together in a car, sex in the back seat of the car or on the car. Dancing together in the night club, chilling in the chillout lounge, sitting at the bar, habing sex on the sky beach roof with an amazing view?

alkory

theHobbit yes, for the 3rd party scenes (Realjamvr, porncornvr, VRPLayful). I don't care about SLR Originals, they are terrible these days. I know you don't agree with me but that's because you are a PT fanboy/badly shot scenes so "it's ok". Most people who are watching VR porn since 2016 here will tell you how badly they are shot. I remember back then, I was watching anything, even giant NAVR girls. Then, bye bye!

dineshweb

theHobbit makes you wonder what purpose the director has sometimes.

Yeah even Nash's recent scenes was also same, well I guess one improvement the kissing scenes and intimacy is longer in some videos like Sisi Rose's Fever etc. But the positions are exact same.

fenderwq

metichemsi I have all my jav auto translated and while not perfect you can completely follow the story and most of what is said. From that I can tell the stories are often very creative and diverse and understanding them only makes it more intimate imo (would be insane if Japanese is your native language).

Totally agree on the intimacy part. The best JAV scenes are still so much better in that than the best western counterparts. Not that there aren't any intimate scenes around here it's just another level and much more prevalent. I think generally more of the scenes here should take a lesson.

I don't think it's just one thing that makes JAV more intimate either. It's a lot of little things like: not rushing, how the girls are often comfortable and present, warm, not over acting, over moaning, fucking like a gf instead of a porn star, etc. Then there is the camera placement, how the girls are often very close to you, the kissing, licking, positions, pacing, role play, scene build up, creative scenarios, scene length, not trying to push in every position in roughly the same sequence every time. The girls that do JAV are also just better in doing these kind of scenes I think.

Still hoping SLR will take more lessons from JAV. I think these kind of scenes will also work extremely well in passthrough.

metichemsi

alkory lol damn dude, why the hate on the PT scenes? Have you tried them out yet on a decent PT headset like the quest 3 or pico 4 or whatever that latest model is? If so, how can you not at the very least appreciate the innovation they are doing with PT at this moment? Is it perfect? Probably not but you can at least say they are trying new things. I bet you probably just feel like they are simply wasting resources with something you are not a fan of instead of fixing what in your opinion is not working? Thats also not a bad thing just say that instead, PT is pretty dope and its still in its infancy state at best. Wait until the masking and headset color cameras get really good

theHobbit

alkory yes, for the 3rd party scenes (Realjamvr, porncornvr, VRPLayful)

so SLR has provided a cost effective solution for you giving you 3 sites for a cheaper price than what you would pay if you had to individually subscribe to Real Jam and PornCorn. You are getting VRPlayful as a bonus. And here you are finding it 'funny' if you lose that benefit from your subscription. Strange logic bro.

theHobbit

alkory I know you don't agree with me but that's because you are a PT fanboy/badly shot scenes so "it's ok".

you are a bit behind on times your favourite studio RealJamVR are polling people on producing PT. Guess what, users are overwhelmingly voting for PT, so there you were laughing at SLR and now another studio is trying to get in on SLR's success and dominance in this space.

So it just goes to show that many of you folk who rudely extol other studios as being better than SLR haven't got a clue what you are talking about and its these other studios that are following SLR's lead.

Matt12345

ive tried pt, its kinda cool. But it just reminds me of when you would have those porn ads for porn models on your desktop in the corner or something. it's just a normal VR vid, just the star cut out the scene and overlayed into your headset really. No adapting to the lighting or blending with your environment really. with horrible black and green outline gaps and bugs.
Overall I give credit to SLR, it's a niche that could grow if developed. However, I think it's just a mix of " running before you can walk" in the sense that SLR still can't reliability shoot originals with great camera placement, positioning, story etc. Maybe get these foundational key aspects down first before trying new stuff. Czechvr is one of the most loved sites in VR because they have great camera position and quality. The models there are pretty ass and can't speak English but if they ever opened a US studio, it would be over for every VR site because they have mastered camera positioning.
Also think it's a case of " spinning too many plates at once" You have SLR perhaps being too innovative, to the detriment of its core fanbase and content. (I have no real evidence to prove this, heads up) But it can't be a coincidence that the quality of SLR scenes has taken a dip with the rise of PT scenes and the growth of the catalogue on their site, I think that's perhaps why there exists some disdain towards PT scenes. I don't think this, I just think SLR has gotten a little complacent and struggles to find directors (they self-admit this by desperately searching for a director/scene producer to the point they even considered hiring an accused rapist/Sa)

But ye, seems a no-brainer going forward to give Alex Nash more say/productions seeing as he's liked here. But I just hope "revamping" isn't a word for fewer originals, with Alex Nash casting most of them. Just get the camera placements down and have a decent rotation of kinks that get provided and you're golden.

alkory

metichemsi I have a Quest 3. I tried them, and the added value isn't worth it specially because these were shot terribly (again bad angles, only compatible with cowgirl, models not looking at the camera, should I keep going?). Read my previous comment for a review, kthx.

theHobbit No I'm not happy if I lose them, that being said they already release their scenes months after their rlz on realjamvr.com so sometimes I like to subscribe to RJVR and SLR has lost its value to me. I'm actually telling you that SLR think they are "so strong and invincible" yet other sites are slowly fading away and it doesn't seem like it matters to them. I don't think it's a good news for them or customers, but that's the way it is when you keep releasing crappy videos. See swallowboy is leaving, Realjamvr was releasing videos almost same day, now it's months after.. Same goes with Fuckpassvr. See a pattern here?
2020 SLR Originals was their golden age, and SLR 2023 is just laughable.
But they think Simsense and PT is da best and will be enough $$$ for them to survive and crush the competition. But I think they are wrong (again read the reasons I already explained 2 times before), and see it's starting with studios leaving. Hey, why do you think they are "resetting Originals production" if everything is 100% fine and all good?

metichemsi

Matt12345 All good points, damn near one of the most civilized responses on this damn thread haha
I can definitely see where you are coming from, the autistic side of me I guess just loves the constant jump from one innovation to another. I tend to work on projects and skillsets the same way, start something, go full force and then hop to something else that catches my eye. I can respect your point of view and I'm not so far detached from my own biases to agree that perhaps some of this is definitely at play and felt by a good group of people as well. I hope those areas do improve because they sure are fundamentals and they should be mostly spot on by any major studio producing and charging for scenes at this level.

theHobbit

Matt12345 Alex Nash more say/productions seeing as he's liked here

He has literally produced the same scene in his last four releases using the same similar bodied model that sometimes have a slightly different face lol 😃 but no criticism from the hypocrites. When other directors show this lack of creativity they get slated.

Quality wise the scenes are very low at 2900p and again not a pipsqueak from the hypocrites - Give me a PT 4000p scene any day of the week.

Hairsational

Matt12345 I think part of the problem is that the SLR Originals producers are stuck in their ways and aren't trying to fine-tune things like camera position to a level of perfection like CzechVR has done. SLR just throws money at their producers and says "here, make some porno" and there is no real incentive for these types of improvements to be made.

Matt12345

I'm not really sure why you replied to me and rambled a bunch of odd points but I guess ill engage the best I can to your points.

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theHobbit He has literally produced the same scene in his last four releases

I think it's a bit unfair/ dishonest seeing as 3/4 of these scenes are from a "royal consort" series they tried. I also wouldn't count 4 as a large enough sample size.

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theHobbit the same similar bodied model that sometimes have a slightly different face

Appears he has the same range of bodies as in PT videos. so I suppose it would also be a criticism you would throw at PT scenes as well? personally wouldn't throw that criticism at either, they mostly both shoot petite girls or TNA girls I guess. Which isn't really a shock seeing as those two body types are found the most attractive.

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theHobbit no criticism from the hypocrites

I don't know who these are lol. But I'm gonna engage in good faith here and assume if they were asked if SLR originals should have bodies ranging from petite to thicker girls they would agree.

4.

theHobbit When other directors show this lack of creativity they get slated.

It could just be me not really on these forums until very recently, but I rarely see directors get criticised for similar models. It's normally brands as a whole e.g. naughty America casting fake tits and ass girls. I normally see directors get criticized for positioning/ position choices/performers not being told to make correct eye contact or just the kink choice. For Alex it would be his armpit thing, I think some people have found it a little odd and too much. Also when people criticise "creativity" it's normally the scenario of the scene, not really the performer. I would actually say that one of the biggest reasons Alex Nash gained popularity is because he shoots a range of scenarios from Taboo scenes to threesomes to harems to movie parodies to intimate GFE to random one-off scenes.

theHobbit Quality wise the scenes are very low at 2900p and again not a pipsqueak from the hypocrites

I don't know the point you are making lol. I don't think anyone is arguing for lower-quality videos. Again if you approached in good faith I think everyone universally would choose higher resolution/clarity videos. PT and VR fans alike. So this just comes across as bitterness to some people you have beef with.

theHobbit Give me a PT 4000p scene any day of the week

Why not have both? Have Higher resolution, well-shot scenes for originals and PT scenes.

Wendigo

Matt12345 I'm not really sure why you replied to me and rambled a bunch of odd points but I guess ill engage the best I can to your points.

@"theHobbit"#p61994 I may respond to a few of your points but thanks for banging away at the keyboard with your essay haha.

@Matt12345 He's a troll, don't bother. His pattern is the same on every thread - throw random rocks at people looking for an opening, when someone takes the bait and responds in good faith wioth a discussion he ridicules them for it.

People need to stop feeding him.

Matt12345

For some reason, logic flies out the window when both sides (for and against) post here.

alkory See swallowboy is leaving

This studio was not getting crazy engagement from what i remember, Also the they shoot like every 2weeks to 20days judging from their site. So i think its more a business choices to not have a studio thats dying on their site. Also if you point to this as proof of the site declining or dying. You have to point to new studios that get added like porncorn, vrspy, forbidden vr as signs of growth no? I think this is just frustration argument rather than one out of merit.

alkory Realjamvr was releasing videos almost same day, now it's months after

You have no idea why this is, maybe realjam as a business want to head in a direction where they funnel customers straight to their site rather than via SLR. Maybe they wish to expand and be a key player in VR instead of an attachment to SLR. All these are potential options. But the truth is you or i don't know. So you shouldn't assume.

alkory But they think Simsense and PT is da best and will be enough $$$ for them to survive and crush the competition.

In the same way ive seen PT fans make odd arguments, I think this is also an odd one to make, just a borderline conspiracy brained argument.

alkory why do you think they are "resetting Originals production" if everything is 100% fine and all good?

I don't think SLR have ever claimed everything is perfect, nor do I think they are on a sinking ship. however, businesses regroup and assess their plans all the time. This isn't unique, even thriving businesses adapt and assess their practices. So this is nothing but a positive. So odd you would use this as a negative.

But ye lol , you super fans of PT and anti-fans have some very odd ways of viewing things and one another's arguments lol

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