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So I can say anything here, right? I guess @doublevr cannot handle any criticism when he talks out of bothsides of his mouth. On the thread "Discussions about other studios"

@rock1515 wrote "I am a bit worried about SLR with the release of vrfanservice. IMO he was top notch and was extremely creative."

@doublevr responded with " vrfanservice was super hit or miss

Otherwise they had indeed some out of the box ideas. It's still not revolutionizing the format like I'm looking to

I wrote "some of your other producers are not "revolutionizing the format right now either.

@doublevr then deleted the post and sent me a privite message saying "this is my final warning' and I can only say anything negative in this thread.

So VRfanservice made some of the best revolutionizing videos and got fired but (since I can say anything here) Alex Mack makes the complete opposite of revolutionizing and I pointed out the hypocrisy, I have been warmed.

Doublevr starts a new thread "How do we make SLR cool?" EVERY POST says the same thing. Make multi stories, make the scenes more immersive, make longer intro,
examples if you didn't read that post:
@Rustam1990 SLRO: Longer scenes with story.
@Kolaches The worst VR scenes are the vanilla ones with nothing going for them
@MickyCheese VR porn is like entering a new reality. The immersion is what hooks people in and will help SLR improve retention rates
@Vrsumo2017 **going to actual strip clubs, I could sit and enjoy the scenery drink a few beers watch the hotties strip
@petergriff When I see a woman in a scene, I already know I'm going to see them fuck. I'm willing to wait for it. Spending time with them, doing things together, joking or teasing with them, making them feel like real characters, that's the good stuff that got ignored

All I have done as a frequent consumer is to try to tell SLR that the formula of cranking out video after video with none of the above even considered is a big mistake. You ask what can be done to make it better and everybody tells you including me but you don't want to hear it because it goes against you making maximum profit. You said it yourself Doublevr. I guess you only want people to say you are the best ever to make VR and are going everything perfect.

    Also I don't go on other sites telling them they are not making great stories. Do you know why, because they have never shown the ability to make @alexnash great long slow buildup story. Only SLR really has done that. Really only @alexnash has shown that ability.

    So, you SLR are the only ones to really ever do it correctly on a consistent basis. The top of the mountain being 2 years ago. Since then, it has slowly over time got less and less often. This is where all the complaining comes from. You had it figured out. Then you started to add new teams and a lot more scenes that did not hold up to this standard. You now have as your main guy not even trying to make what made SLR different. Why don't you have Mack go to a Nash shoot to see how he does it. Can this hurt in some way. Mack is shooting what any other studio can shoot. Less than other studios.

    Again Macks latest scene "Caught Web Camming" your dick is out in 2:28 in. Then it is no talking with the same positions that all the other studios have been going for years. This is not revolutionary at all. I tried to watch it because it has a same day script but it was so uneventful and boring that I had to stop.

    I know @doublevr that this kind of criticism is hard for you to take but it's to make you understand what it looks like from my end of the headset. If another studio makes a boring scene like this I don't say anything because I didn't expect anything more.

    If you want to be just like anybody else than just say it and I will stop trying to give you feedback on the short coming.

    Strong leaders engage their critics and make themselves stronger. Weak leaders silence their critics and make themselves weaker.

    Silencing is the last, best tool of a desperate person with no counter-argument.

    rerun119 Doublevr starts a new thread "How do we make SLR cool?" EVERY POST says the same thing. Make multi stories, make the scenes more immersive, make longer intro,

    That thread made me laugh as well. The whole thread is literally people making our arguments.

    The whole thread is very telling about his motivations - he has pretty much ignored everyone telling him the same thing, over and over, because he isn't interested in fixing the site for people who gave him their money. He's already looking to the next buck by trying to ReVoLuTiOnIzE tHe MeDiUm1!!!!! by somehow thinking that short clips or some cheap nonsense is what is going to make VR the next big thing.

      rerun119 I liked a lot of vrfanservice's scenes so it's dismaying to see them be replaced by a seemingly inexperienced director with none of the creativity. It feels like this change also coincided with a shift in the SLR Originals formula away from a focus on beautiful natural girls and more towards girls with boob jobs, fillers and ink. I have no doubt that there are customers who really like these changes, but I do want to voice my displeasure.

      About the moderation, I've witnessed other critical posts disappear in the past week, and that person above apparently got banned for a very innocuous post too. It's deeply worrying that SLR believes in running the site in a similar fashion to an authoritarian state, where anything that isn't praise by bootlickers is heavily suppressed.

          Hairsational VRFanService is gone for totally unrelated reason. It's gone because there was no way to keep things going with him. The same like some people got banned from this place recently. It's just got too much for no reason.

              rerun119 it's not criticism from you guys any more. You go too much all over the place hi-jacking normal discussion. You lost any credibility. You are not fit for a civil discussion which you turn into infinite fight. It's no different than conspiracies, flat earthers and all that.

              This thread is yours. Please keep the rest of the forum clean.

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                  • Post #130

                  doublevr

                  @Will65's criticisms are valid in my opinion. You guys make really great films. It's just painful to see so many lost opportunities with the VR180 format. Busty women covered head-to-toe in tattoos is a very exclusive niche. For generations porn has been about depicting the young ingénue of classical good looks first looking genuine and then surrendering to perversions.

                  You have asked for feedback: more BTS content, more solo content and narrative before the film starts, less hooker-ware, three-inch heals, and street-side cosmetics. Your site is called "SexLikeReal". Real women look naturally hot and, outside of L.A., don't have massive boobs from plastic surgery. Chubby women are fine, but typically where the film quality is high the casting doesn't live up to that standard. As feedback, please do multiple films and BTS stuff with Myra Glasford / Myra Moans. Do naked show and tell interviews for new models and models new to SLR. That's very civilly expressed, I think, given my language skills in English. That said, if you want so called conspiracy theories, so many of these so called conspiracy theories have come true lately, with the release of COVID-19 and all, that I only know one really good one.

                      Hairsational

                      doublevr VRFanService is gone for totally unrelated reason. It's gone because there was no way to keep things going with him. The same like some people got banned from this place recently. It's just got too much for no reason.

                      "for no reason" = "he disagreed with me"

                      How do I know? Because he repeatedly agreed with ME in various other forums where SLR is discussed about all the things we have said in this thread that @doublevr tries to hide away from the rest of the forum. That's why we liked him (and why he was so popular) - he made VR the way the way it should be made.

                          rock1515 I've never been a fan of vrfanservice, primarily because the models they used were never within my taste more than anything, but I did respect the fact they were trying new things, that milk scene was good.

                          I wish more studios took more risks on the creativity side like they did instead of only being focused on the tech and "innovation" side of things. I think by now even a 5k video is good enough for me as long as it has proper exposure, focus and color grading, hell even SLR could make the k2 pro footage look incredible to the point that it really had very little to envy of the 8k system. Point is, we are at the point, in my opinion, where resolution is secondary to content, I would much rather watch something engaging in 5k than another boring ass cookie cutter 8k scene.

                              doublevr I can tell you are really mad that I went back and found all the times you wrote about how you were going to revolutionize vr with more innovative storytelling. You really didn't like it to be showed what you said you were going to do and then said you told Mack to do nothing but good camera work with sex from the start of the scene.

                              This is the opposite of conspiracies. No flat earth. Unless the conspiracy is you telling everybody on here what they want to hear and really just chase the money. Again, if you are just after the money then just say it. I can go find all the times you wrote that you are the only vr porn company not after the money but that's your words not mine.

                              You create all of my so called hi-jacking. You will not find me saying anything about how bad a girl looks on here. Or me bad mouthing other users (other than one guy that stopped posting). Or what other people on here are looking for. Or even other SLR employees other than ones that you told what to do.

                              The "hi-jacking" comes from you making grand statements that don't come true. If you say it, then I would think the CEO is going to do it thus me getting very frustrated being lied to. How many examples do you want me to put? Or will I be banned for pointing them out? No one else said them, only you.

                              It looks to me that you want to write all kinds of "we are going to do this and that" but you don't want anybody to question you about it when it doesn't happen. That is the "hi-jacking" to you.

                              Example of grand statement which causes the questioning.
                              On AI scripts - we nailed it (no one is allowed to question this there only here now cause its bad for other people to read it)

                              One month ago you wrote "Ultimately we are looking to have to majority of SLR database scripted in a matter of a month or two"
                              also 8 days ago you said in a month
                              I have not said anything about this because you still have a month to go. After being on here long enough to know how you just say thinks that aren't true. Some I just let go. Even though I want this to be true we both know it isn't. Do I really think 20,000 scenes are just going to be scripted in 30 days, NOOOOO

                              Other people show discontent over your promises of SLR Japan timeline as one example. They just don't interact with the forum as much as I do and some other.

                              Final point. I originally started writing on here because you seemed to want to listen to what the customers wanted and advise on how to improve. Now I see what you really don't want that at all.

                                  Looks like it worked 🔥🔥🔥

                                  The forum is such a lovely place now 😍

                                    doublevr Do you just pop by here to troll? Do you understand that this attitude is why a lot of us communicate with you in ways you disapprove of? Has it occurred to you that someone who is allowed to be the bully because they have power to silence others is still a bully?

                                    Subscribers giving up on even bothering to communicate with you is not something to celebrate.

                                    doublevr The forum is such a lovely place now

                                    People are still repeating the exact same criticisms, you've just bullied them in to kissing your ass while they do it. Glad you seem proud of that.

                                          6 days later

                                          Not really a complaint, but is there a reason why SLR moved away from niche stars like Mistress T, Meana Wolf, Larkin Love etc.?

                                            diskgriffin time moves on. Mistress T retired, we were planning to shoot Larkin Love in May but it canceled, Meana Wolf isn't shooting outside of her channel.

                                              Will65 doublevr The forum is such a lovely place now

                                              no. @Will65, as you and others here well know, the forum is fucking awful. littered with casting and content request posts that should be in their own sub-forum(s) allowing actual discussion posts to be found. oh but wait - actual discussion is no longer permitted 🤦‍♂️ I honestly can’t be bothered to even log in to the SLR forum any more. but ya whatever.

                                              SLR is being driven into the ground by its little emperor. so sad to see. I really can’t imagine they’ll keep Alex Nash around here much longer either, and then that truly will be the end. pfft. fucking sad.

                                              wherever Nash goes though, that’s where I sub. hopefully it will be a place where discussion and valid criticism is not suppressed.

                                                  argyle43 littered with casting and content request posts that should be in their own sub-forum(s) allowing actual discussion posts to be found

                                                  I can't agree more on that. It would be nice to have them don't show on the main page.