Should we rebrand passthrough into AR porn?

spacepirate

doublevr well thats what it is... unless you want to call it low immersion porn

Vrsumo2017

spacepirate so XR should be the term then? Cuz XR is like the whole enchilada?

XXXR Porn lol 😆

SchnuppiLilac

doublevr
AR can be defined as a system that incorporates three basic features: a combination of real and virtual worlds, real-time interaction, and accurate 3D registration of virtual and real objects. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augmented_reality)

I think PT only qualifies for the first feature. Not sure, maybe MR would be more appropriate.

Will65

SchnuppiLilac maybe MR would be more appropriate.

It is only MR if the physical elements and the digital elements can interact. AR (a view of the real world with an overlay of digital elements) is the appropriate term.

spacepirate

Vrsumo2017 no because AR and VR are not the same thing and shouldnt be treated the same

Vrsumo2017

spacepirate what about "spatial porn"

Apple been throwing that word around since the reveal of the vision, like it's something new.

Ar vr Mr xr spatial, idk it's tomany terms now, it's all the same imo. 🤷‍♂️

LordCrash

Rebrand it into whatever you want, but on a separate site. I don't want my subscription money to be spent on something that isn't VR porn.

metichemsi

AR would be more specific but contrary to what others may say XR would also work and technically does cover the whole enchilada. Your team is working on a way to also enjoy passthrough videos with virtual backgrounds, if that's not the whole enchilada right there, then I don't know what is hahaha

I guess saying XR is like saying human instead of american, asian, or african I guess. It's a broader category that cover multiple sub categories within it, why would you not be able to use it? I guess I would personally and maybe for financial and market saturation purposes see which term, other than VR is more widely used and popular with the masses. That way you can decide if you want to get more specific with AR or more broad with XR.

XR to me just sounds cooler but I have to admit that AR to me sounds more familiar and widely used, specially by people who are not super into this stuff like we are. My wife for example, she is more likely to know what AR is vs XR if I ask her if she knows what either mean.

Vrsumo2017

metichemsi AR would be more specific but contrary to what others may say XR would also work and technically does cover the whole enchilada.

Plus I like the X in XR you know for X Rated 😏

Will65

metichemsi The point was to differentiate passthrough from VR, so why would you use a term to "cover the whole enchilada"? If I am trying to differentiate between asians and africans, I wouldn't use humans - that just muddles the description worse than it already is.

metichemsi

Vrsumo2017

metichemsi lol 😆

SchnuppiLilac

Will65 Sure, the set of definitions presented in the pic makes sense and is consistent in itself.

When thinking about how I perceive PT, I think AR does not really apply either. Using a Q2, it is rather a view of the virtual world with an underlay of a vague representation of the physical world, thus Augmented VR (AVR). I assume that the brains of those people enjoying PT as it is in Q2 manage to combine the grainy b/w reality and the VR image into something they perceive as a delightful experience.

Clearly, a lot of people are not enjoying PT. They might call it AVR as well, the A standing for abysmal.

metichemsi

Will65 because when it comes to marketing decisions, especially product or consumer facing names, you dont always only factor "technicalities" but also keep in mind the broadness of your reach with certain terms. Same way VR180 is widely used on here to cover both equirectangular vs fisheye content. Also originals arent even 180, they are technically 200+ but nobody here calls their content VR200 right? It's all a matter of how into the weeds you want to get and the more detailed or precise you get with these naming conventions the more niche it becomes and the less people will even know what that is. Go talk to people you know are not into VR at all and ask them if they have heard of either AR or XR? I'm willing to be bet that even through they probably wont know what either of those mean or the technical differences between the two, they are more likely to have at one point heard or seen headlines with AR more so than XR.

All I am saying is that this should be considered. Is their target audience only us members of this site and geeks on these forums? Or will they be marketing this product to more people outside of these small circles?

Docbear64

Absolutely AR Porn or Mixed Reality porn would be attractive to people not really interested in the space but are curious about new types of porn experiences. I mean " Hot girls in your living room" sells itself .

It's like all of those ancient fake sex site ads " Hot milfs in your area WANT YOU!" but there's at least some truth to it in Augmented / Mixed Reality porn.

SchnuppiLilac

Docbear64 " Hot milfs in your area WANT YOU!"

Wait! What? They were fake??

Will65

metichemsi because when it comes to marketing decisions

I'm not here to try to help them market their product, especially when it comes to blurring the lines. I'm on this thread because they blur too much already, and it starts to encroach on truth in advertising and veer into bait and switch territory. Even in the passthrough category, the lines defining a "passthrough" video are sketchy at best. Have you looked? So many of the scenes marked as "passthrough" are anything but! Basically, there is one user here that comments on nearly every video what settings to use to remotely resemble passthrough, even if it means that the model has no eyes or her hair disappears or some such nonsense. Clearly, these are NOT passthrough videos, but if they are barely passable, the "marketing" team slaps the label on them. I can already hear the "marketers" (e.g., con men) pitching that "SLR has the largest collection of passthrough videos!"

If you are selling VR, call it that. If you are selling AR, call it that. If you are selling 3D porn, call it that. Stop trying to figure out how to get the most people to spend their money by describing your product in a dishonest or misleading fashion.

Vrsumo2017

metichemsi because when it comes to marketing decisions, especially product or consumer facing names, you dont always only factor "technicalities"

Good point...

I was really liking the term "mixed reality porn" few months ago. Mixing virtual reality with real life reality.

But then again, the word "pass-through" is pretty common in the vr community. Idk 🤷‍♂️

Have yall ever seen this video

The beginning made me LOL cuz the guy says this technology is years away, lol 8 months later vision pro comes out. Lol 😆

And meta was using a watch on the wrist to do hand gesture selecting, SMH what Apple does with no wrist watch. Lol

The 3d scanning was interesting.

Vrsumo2017

I think Google just started the term IR Immersive Reality 🤷‍♂️, lol 😆

Rakly3

How about
Virtual pornography with the background removed so you can see your real surroundings.

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