[deleted] Dw they'll offer controllers for purchase separately
The real questions for separate purchase are:
1) Will the top head strap be included?
2) Will fitting be included, since the face pad will require a face scan, which they say can be done at the iStore...
[deleted] this is a company that charges $999 for a monitor stand
Vrsumo2017 They talk about it like it something brand spanking new to the world,
Because they exist in a bubble where corporate perspective determines their reality. These people are chosen for their expertise in group think, which is why, as Elon Musk has observed, they use and reuse the same phrases and talking points and operate in lockstep. They are paid to push product for advertisers and potential advertisers, where someone like Marquess Brownlee is his own boss and has the freedom to speak his mind (sometimes, on non-political topics).
spacepirate charges $999 for a monitor stand
How much will an extra battery cost 
[deleted] Where did you get that information? I did not notice any top head straps so far. Also the thing about a mandatory fitting procedure sounds unlikely. I am pretty sure there will be a standard light seal (they say it 'gently conforms to your face, delivering a precise fit').
spacepirate Packaging alone is worth the price
SchnuppiLilac I remember hearing one reviewer who got to try it say they over heard there might be a top strap available, I'm also hearing the headset was kinda heavy, one reviewer said they used it for an hour and stared to feel the weight on his face. 
Another reviewer showed off the red familiar face guard imprint on her face.
The only downside i found considering the price is the FOV. I expected something like Pimax 8k full human FOV, but ppl who used it said the FOV is more like around 110 degrees, which has been around for quite a while. I mean its still a marvel of tech and i'm sure vrp is gonna be mind blowing on it. But i expected something a bit more revolutionary. If it had 220 degrees FOV i would pay any amount of money they ask.
Yes, I heard about the weight, too. But with the top strap, will the hair still look good after you take the AVP off?
Listen to the guys theory at the end, lol
Lol I noticed the the noticeably small house units too. 
They did say a prison of possibilities and never have to leave your home. They said that.
Everyone they showed using it was manly alone, except that one lady, someone's head pop into her guardian and say you ever gonna take that thing off and come out side. Lol 
SchnuppiLilac lol I remember vive when they revealed there xr elite they said no more top strap that will mess up your hair.
Then they had to add a Lil ass strap cuz users says the shit would slip down even tho was it lite.
I been checking out xr elite reviews, kinda not good, sum say facegaurd not comfortable, to small, it squeezes down on the nose, and lens are small. Sum prefer the quest pro over the vive.
They do say the pass through pretty clear tho.
Not looking to good for vive.
Vrsumo2017 Listen to the guys theory at the end, lol
I don't know. I am rather bored by the videos on Deovr.com and will get motion sick if someone starts walking around exploring. But if the technology should ever reach a point where it genuinely feels like real and is capable of replacing real-life experiences, there will be addicts and it will get dangerous. Like in Avatar, after 16 hours in the link unit: 'Don't make me force-feed a cripple!'.
Dude say fov wasn't impressive
Also said hand covers over apps.
I want my hands to cover over alpha models.
If I reach out it should look like my hands are covering titties. 
Edit: hopefully they'll have options to keep people out your guardian, I don't want others coming in my virtual space. KEEP OUT! lol
Edit:
Wow, dudes review made me think of the possibilities how far they could push the alpha productions, one word...shadows.
Lol, Zuckerberg went in on the vision
"every demo that they showed was a person sitting on a couch by themself. I mean, that could be the vision of the future of computing, but like, it’s not the one that I want"
And it's laughable cuz it's true. Lol
Full article
https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/8/23754239/mark-zuckerberg-meta-apple-vision-pro-headset
Apple vision pro : ready player one
Lol
SchnuppiLilac Where did you get that information? I did not notice any top head straps so far.
Vrsumo2017 funny that they are showing the quest 2 next to the apple headset in that coverage... quest 2 is a 3 yr old headset lol.
this guy is probably one of the smartest dudes in the VR space
i do cam stuff with lots of girls that broadcast at 4k.
sooo bummed it's not THIS month
i have lots of uses for it
not sure i am going to WAIT on the WOW factor anymore....the jump from Q1 to Q3 and or apple. just gotta figure out how to log into kids q2 without leaving my LIL trail of personal destruction....that was the age i started and it was not good 
million bucks later
spanker see, even he said that thing might be used to shoot porn.
So I'm wondering if it will able to shoot 180 vr video, cuz that be bad ass.
Only thing is, if a male model wore it, might be to much head movement, even in laying cg rcg if he just tried to keep his head still there would be cam movements due to female bouncing that ass up and down on him.
But we'll see, be cool tho.
I'd like to see it done now with quest pro even if it's in 2d.
