bacula8630 Yep! Rotoscoping historically implies doing it by hand (the process of painting out the background manually) but it can refer to the act of cutting out elements in general. Depending on the footage and the tools available there are many different ways to achieve it, like chroma key (greenscreen/bluescreen), depth matte (an algorithm looks at the focus/sharpness to determine an element's distance from the lens...not perfect, but amazing advancement in the last couple years), difference matte (the program compares a "clean plate" — the shot with the background only — to the same shot with the performer in frame and cuts out any pixels that are identical, so only the performer remains...often has issues because of camera sensor noise, background elements moving a little, that kind of thing). There are even tools now like Magic Mask in Davinci Resolve that use machine learning to recognize a body, or even a body part like selecting a face, or hair, or clothes. It's all pretty incredible.

Usually an effective matte requires some combination of tools to get the right polish. You also have to consider things like matching light direction and color temperature.

Then, a final color grade and application of film grain/digital noise can help tie it all together and hide the seams.

      Sandi_SLR We also use this word for a technique to cut a person out of an image so its a separate layer, then you can composite that person over another.

      Try searching for "rotoscoping mask"

      Mutiny Yep! Rotoscoping historically implies doing it by hand (the process of painting out the background manually) but it can refer to the act of cutting out elements in general. Depending on the footage and the tools available there are many different ways to achieve it, like chroma key (greenscreen/bluescreen), depth matte (an algorithm looks at the focus/sharpness to determine an element's distance from the lens...not perfect, but amazing advancement in the last couple years), difference matte (the program compares a "clean plate" — the shot with the background only — to the same shot with the performer in frame and cuts out any pixels that are identical, so only the performer remains...often has issues because of camera sensor noise, background elements moving a little, that kind of thing). There are even tools now like Magic Mask in Davinci Resolve that use machine learning to recognize a body, or even a body part like selecting a face, or hair, or clothes. It's all pretty incredible.

      Usually an effective matte requires some combination of tools to get the right polish. You also have to consider things like matching light direction and color temperature.

      Then, a final color grade and application of film grain/digital noise can help tie it all together and hide the seams.

      Thanks for the info guys!

      I was familiar with a lot of the masking techniques you guys mentioned. But I never knew the names for them. But I’m always open to learning new things. So I appreciate you guys taking the time to reply.

      Also, sounds like editing software has come a long way in recent years. Many complex masks needed to be hand drawn before. But it sounds like the software takes a lot of the tedium out of those processes. With maybe a little fine tuning here and there.

      All very cool stuff! Learn something new everyday!

            Mutiny There was a whole episode of THE ORVILLE about this!

            Man, if I had a holodeck, my family and friends would probably never see me again! 😂

            Mutiny I'm so torn between getting a Quest Pro now vs waiting for the 3 to come out.

            I just bought a Quest Pro a couple months ago. The resolution is the same as the Quest 2. But the optics on the Pro are super impressive! The clarity is probably the best available at the moment.

            But since the Quest 3 is pretty close to release. I’d probably wait and see what that’s like before making any final decision.

                  Mutiny Thanks for the reference! I hadn't seen that one.

                  Lol, right...there's so many, would take a life time to actually go threw every scene in vr
                  sheesh 🥵🤦‍♂️

                    Bucket619 Well for reference i have the Vive Pro 😭 and have not experienced past the screendoor effect of the higher resolutions 😭

                    I have never tried any Vive headsets, so I can’t really compare. But if you’re sensitive to Screen Door Effect, the Quest Pro may not be the best option.

                    Although it uses a RGB strip sub pixel layout. The lenses are so clear in that thing, that the individual pixels are more noticeable on the Pro. Versus the Quest 2 for example.

                    I think you should wait for the Quest 3. Or maybe the Pico 4.

                        bacula8630 the only reason i noticed the screen door is because i saw it in a forum and finally had a word to put to it. it doesnt bother me but if there is something where it looks super clear, then i am highly interested.

                          Mutiny they say q3 gonna be twice as powerful as q2 and qpro, just no face tracking. 🤷‍♂️

                          I bought the pico 4, super impressed how clear it is, no screen door, God rays or lens rings, it's got glare like at menus but in games or vrp it's hardly noticeable, you gotta actually look for it.

                          The pass through has color, but it sucks in low light, it's still grainy like a q2 but with color.
                          I've been a strap guy so the battery in the back is kinda meh, it's super faster tho, loads up quick, games load faster. It's gotta a few minor kinks that need to be fixed with the software but it's good for the price, fov noticeably bigger then q2, q2 like looking threw a toilet paper roll, lol

                          But since the pass through not as impressive, its ok...tho I enjoy the color, and since q3 gonna have a strap and color pt, Ima be getting a q3 next. 👍

                              Bucket619 I think so, I'm just hoping the pass through works better. The pancake lense on pico are super clear, I heard q2 suppose have pancake lense too. 🤞