Mutiny This is silly. The forums and comments have been repeatedly sold to us as a place where we give feedback about what we like and what we don't like, with the intent that the decision makers will read it and give us more of what we like and less of what we don't. To say that if we don't like something we shouldn't say so because someone else might doesn't work with that model. If, instead, the foums and comments are to be used to express praise when you like something and keep your mouth shut when you don't - that's not a source of customer feedback, that's a circle jerk. I fail to see why they'd even be useful, except to stroke someone's ego.
Why am I unable to comment on videos?
Mutiny I do see both sides. But I do think @Will65 makes a point in that if the comment was "The high heel parade continues. Yuck." It wouldn't have been deleted.
How can you make a comment on not liking fake boobs in the comment section of a video that has a girl in it was fake boobs without it not looking like you are directly talking about that person? This is porn so talking about model choices is going to be one of the major topics.
I do think it could have been worded better to not have as much of a punch to it. But people are from different cultures and english could be a second language. Something in one country might be very offensive but not in other. America and the West is leading the way on PC policing and some people are tired of it.
Will65 maybe next time say you like more natural looking women. Although we still all know what you mean and it doesn't get your point across as much as the other.
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"Plastic model" is offensive in any language and culture. It's meant to be offensive and derogatory, sorry. You can't be offensive on purpose and then complain that moderation does its job...
rerun119 How can you make a comment on not liking fake boobs in the comment section of a video that has a girl in it was fake boobs without it not looking like you are directly talking about that person?
Pretty easy. Say "I'm not much into augmented boobs myself and I'd prefer if you shoot with more all natural girls in the future again." There's zero offensiveness to such a statement and it's perfectly clear what you want to say.
LordCrash I'll agree with you but
Will65 "Without the ridiculously ugly tats Demi would probably be one of the hottest women on planet earth. Well, that's how to show mother nature the finger,
"ridiculously ugly tats" is also offensive in any language and culture.
My point is that once a human becomes the PC police then their personal feeling are going to be picking and choosing on as uneven level.
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Mutiny some people wake up every day and seek happiness, others wake up and seek despair. Not much I can do for those people.
sorry but not everyone is living in fairy land where people smile and compliment everyone and everything so as to not damage someone elses fragile mental state. the people you think are seeking despair are seeking perfection and the other group either dont care enough or are curled up in a corner with their eyes closed and hands over their ears muttering "dont hurt me".
rerun119 "ridiculously ugly tats" is also offensive in any language and culture.
That's why I deleted it now. Shouldn't have been there from the beginning actually, my bad. Like I said, it was made in a state of disappointment but I should have voiced it better and less offensive.
spacepirate2 "Seeking happiness" was probably the wrong phrase. What I mean is bettter phrased as "seeking contentment" -- as opposed to seeking the kind of dopamine hit one gets from standing on someone else's head and declaring oneself tall.
(Also, on a personal note, please don't seek perfection. That way lies guaranteed disappointment. Seek improvement. That can actually be acheived.)
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Mutiny nobody here is trying to stand on someone elses head for a dopemine hit. all anyone is doing is voicing opinions on what they do and dont like. some are doing it more tactfully than others of course. if the more abrasive characters are a problem for you then id suggest that is at least partly a "you" problem.
and no.. seeking perfection is a good thing. without people like that driving progress our species would still be cavemen killing each other with sticks over the smallest disagreements. aiming high, falling short, and learning from the mistakes is how we make progress... not being content.
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spacepirate2 some are doing it more tactfully than others of course. if the more abrasive characters are a problem for you then id suggest that is at least partly a "you" problem.
Nope. If you act like an asshole you shouldn't be surprised if people call you an asshole and treat you like an asshole. Comes with the attitude and it's very likely well deserved. If you want to be offensive and insulting and cocky, just own it and live with the consequences. Or make a step back and reflect on your behaviour and maybe just admit that you were offensive and simply try to behave better next time, being less offensive towards other people.
And yes, I can be an asshole myself, I know the drill... 
spacepirate2 all anyone is doing is voicing opinions on what they do and dont like
Yep. That's what I'm doing. Though there's a way to not be a jerk about it.
(At which, I admit, I'm not perfect because perfection is impossible and therefore foolish to attempt.)
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LordCrash my point there is that some people are too sensitive. i dont disagree with what you are saying about acting like an asshole though. its a two way thing.. but people like to just point the finger at the asshole.
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Mutiny The problem with all of this is that you are needlessly personalizing it. Like it or not, porn is a business. Comments suggesting I should just appreciate the performance of the model and be grateful for it are misguided. If the model did a video and presented it to me as a gift, I would be remiss to criticize. But that isn't what's happenning here: I am paying for a service. The model - her appearance, her talent, her presentation, her voice, her attitude - are THE PRODUCT. She is SELLING those items to me (or at least to SLR) for a fee. As such, I get to criticize the product, sorry. If I contract with you to paint my house and you do a shitty job, I get to say so, and if your feelings are hurt because I didn't appriciate your artistry, so be it. The product wasn't up to my standards, and I get to say so. I can see how you make the mistake: It is offensive to criticize a woman's body. But that changes when the woman commodifies herself by marketing all or part of herself for money. "I get paid a lot of money because I am beautiful and take a cock like a champ" and "Commenting negatively on my physical appearance or choice of surgical alterations to my appearance is inappropriate" are incompatible with each other - something about having your cake and eating it too.
Mutiny "Don't yuck other people's yum" is a cliche at this point.
This trope is inapplicable. I didn't criticize someone else for liking plastic models, I said that I didn't appreciate the number of plastic models we are seeing. Reading it your way suggests we should never say anything negative for fear that someone else may like it. I don't see how you can reasonably defend that stance, but I think you're actually trying to take it.
Mutiny Bottom line, I very sincerely care if you like something. I want you to get what you like.
I absolutely do not care if you don’t like something, as long as someone else does like it.
That's my position.
Porn is a business. If this is your position, then you are a bad businessperson. You are saying that if you make 100 of something, you only care if 1 person likes it? And that you really wouldn't care about the complaints of the other 99 people that didn't like your product? You could read all the 99 comments that say, "If you'd just put a handle on the side, we'd buy these like crazy" and not make the change because you only care about the one person that likes it?
Not to be mean, but that's the diffrence between an artist who makes PMVs on the side and a person like @doublevr who runs a business for profit. He constantly points to data, trends, and stats as "proof" of what the majority of users on his site like to guide his decisions and direction. Suppressing or ignoring criticism defeats all of that.
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Will65 Comments suggesting I should just appreciate the performance of the model and be grateful for it are misguided.
At no point did I suggest this. I suggested you watch something else.
Will65 If I contract with you to paint my house
Unlike in your flawed metaphor here, you are not the only customer on SLR.
Will65 You are saying that if you make 100 of something, you only care if 1 person likes it?
No, I'm saying that if one person (you) doesn't like a thing and one person does (someone else), that's still a success. Though the reality here is thousands of people like it, and a handful don't. It's just that the handful are really fuckin' loud about it.
Will65 the majority of users on his site
The majority of users on the comment thread that launched this whole discussion told you what they thought of your opinion. That's also data.
Will65 Porn is a business.
Yes. Among many other things, it often is a business. And a business doesn't change its strategy because a tiny minority happens to screech.
I've asked you multiple times in this thread alone what you actually do like. I still have no idea.
There are many people here with whom I disagree on a lot, but you are the only person in this entire ecosystem for whom I literally cringe when your username pops up. Of the scores, possibly hundreds, of comments I've read from you, I remember maybe 3 that weren't aggressive whining. (Not to be mean.)
I'm just tired of it, man.
I want you to be happy. Truly I do.
But at this point I want you to know — and I mean this from the bottom of my heart — I sincerely consider you an acceptable loss.
Let's just ignore each other and live out our short lives on this planet a little happier for it.
I'm done.
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Mutiny I'm not sure why you even engaged in the first place. I'm usually confused at that in general on site forums. Like you said - it isn't for you. Do people somehow think that I am commenting about what I want to or do not want to see for them somehow? I am commenting for the purpose of communicating my likes and dislikes to the site management. They seem to justify a lot of decisions with "well, everyone likes it" so it seems critical to speak up when I don't so that a) they know that not everyone likes it, and b) to encourage others who don't like it to speak up as well. People constantly comment with shit like "Well, you know, other people like this" - of course I know, you stated as much in your own comments. Why do you think you need to chastise mine because I disagree? Should I respond to every person who comments postively and asks for more of a video that I don't like , "you know, other people don't like this" ?
My comments are directed at the company. If you feel the need to argue with me or correct for reasons of your own, fine - I will discuss it with you. But remember - I didn't draw you into it. The way I see it, you entered my exchange with the company unbidden. The company seeks my feedback as a customer through feedback forums and comments. I did not seek yours. My opening comment on this very thread was addressed to support in general and @doublevr in particular. You can't help with my question, you just wanted to voice your opinion on something that didn't concern you. To then whine about how that conversation went seems a bit self-involved to me.
Mutiny I'm just tired of it, man
Move on, then. You chose to engage with me. It's silly to complain about your own choices.
