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doublevr Shooting BGGA by default. A is for Anal. Where possible

doublevr Cool VFX like DickRunner scenes



No need to re-invent the wheel, or raise the novely/stakes ever higher. Remember: it's Virtual REALITY. And you are Sex Like REAL. Keep it simple, and shoot it perfectly. We already have Wankz for gonzo porn, NAVR for silicone creations, and VR Conk/VRCosplay for fringe fantasy. Go back to what you were good at.

    is that the GFE kind of scenes? unsure nor have i paid close attention to how they turn out since i skip to the riding scenes :’(

    Will65 in what way is VR porn focused on anal sex? People are seriously deluded if they don’t think VR porn focuses mainly on the very thing he’s asking for, vanilla GFE scenes with flat chested teen looking girl next door types. It’s like they can’t take it if even one scene every blue moon isn’t what they want.

    There’s one VR site in the world that you could argue focuses on anal threesomes (Realjamvr). That’s it, one site. Anal barely features at all on any of the main studios. If you look at SLR as a whole, with all the third party studios included, there’s 863 anal scenes out of 12,549 videos. That may even be after my hidden studios are removed from the total so it could be even more of a disparity. Tell me again how VR porn is focused on anal scenes.

    Let’s put all this “it’s virtual REALITY” and “sex like REAL” nonsense to bed too. No one wants to watch real people have real sex, it would be horrific to watch and scenes would last 10 minutes, if that. If people want to have boring sex with a normal girl, go and get one. It’s “virtual reality PORN” and porn is not about real people having sex with their girlfriend (though there’s plenty of amateur stuff out there if that’s really what you want to see). Porn is about fantasy, it’s about girls who are hotter than your girlfriend doing stuff your girlfriend probably doesn’t often do like sucking dick, multiple positions, taking cum on their face and, yes, maybe even taking it in the ass.

    It may also surprise you to learn that pornstars often look like strippers because that’s what many of them start out as. Men like going to see strippers as they are hot to look at. Normal girls aren’t out there fucking hundreds of strangers on camera for money. Only slutty girls do that and I don’t mean that in a derogatory way. You have to be someone who wants sex all the time in order to do that job. So yeah, lots of girls in porn look like slutty strippers because that’s what they are and they would tell you that themselves. I’ve heard many girls say “if you’re not a slut, porn isn’t the job for you!”.

    This VR community obsession with every single scene having to be what you want 100% of the time is nuts. Don’t people want any variety at all, does it have to be a girlfriend simulation every time with a pornstar who looks like she’s not a pornstar? Why can’t you all be happy with 95% of scenes being what you want and leave the scraps to the rest of us.

    Seriously, the scene that guy describes sounds like the most boring shit I’ve ever heard.

      Tired of BGG and BGGG scenes, in the last month, and judging by the number of likes, they are not more popular than BG scenes.

      Last 20 BGG and BGGG (and Harem) scenes (when adding number of likes together, and dividing by 20) have average of about 2400 likes, almost the same as BG scenes.

      Also i was happy to see new Uma Jolie scene, but of course it's threesome, and she leaves in the middle of it.

      I also don't like BGG+ scenes so this is not a good news for me.
      That being said, I'm not the selfish type and I can understand some people somehow love BGGGGGGGG scenes so I'm fine if there are some here and there but it should not be the standard.
      Just like I accepted that anal scenes sadly can't be the standard, even though I wish they were 100% of the scenes.
      I can understand some people might not like them.
      BUT I find it hilarious when people complain about a scene having anal because they don't like it and are furious. When 95% of scenes don't have anal (hell even anal scenes usually are not even 100% anal!!!), I don't think these people have an actual right to complain.
      Following their logic, I should post on every comment section for all these 95% of scenes "no anal, it sucks, unwatchable". Because that's exactly what the anal haters do when systematically posting.
      So yeah I agree with @petermc some people can't accept they won't be always happy. I already accepted it since I only watch anal scenes.
      It's even more frustrating when a girl regularly shoots anal on 2D porn, and never did it on VR. Or did it once when she already did it 100000 times on 2D porn.
      This is something I will never understand.

        petermc uhh his comment was in response the slr announcement that scenes would be threesomes with anal by default.

        i know you are a huge anal fan and your agenda is get more anal content but you should understand that anal isnt nearly popular enough to warrant scenes being anal by default.

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          @doublevr Could someone please remove the word "Tomorrow" from the thread title? Each time I read that word I get excited followed by instant disappointment when I realize it's an old one. It's a bit frustrating, so I would appreciate it if we could update the title. 😅

            spacepirate I'm late to the party on this but my understanding is when he said "anal is default" what he meant was "producers should always ask if she's down to do anal". Doesn't mean every scene will or even should be, just that we never miss an opportunity simply because we didn't ask.

            And the BGG default is so that if someone cancels last minute, isn't feeling well, etc, a BG shoot can still proceed.

              Definitely more ebony content, the number of black content is almost laughable.
              Not expecting an overnight change, but gradual inclusion would be fine

              wenworth My specific objection was in reply to @doublevr saying that they would shoot BGG and anal BY DEFAULT. I don't begrudge anyone anal scenes - I'll just skip them. But shooting both of these categories by default seems like massive overreach to me.

                spacepirate Yes, exactly. I didn't answer the rest of his post because it was kind of a rant and it seemed clear he didn't really read it.

                spacepirate i know you are a huge anal fan and your agenda is get more anal content but you should understand that anal isnt nearly popular enough to warrant scenes being anal by default.

                Will65 My specific objection was in reply to @doublevr saying that they would shoot BGG and anal BY DEFAULT. I don't begrudge anyone anal scenes - I'll just skip them. But shooting both of these categories by default seems like massive overreach to me.

                Mutiny I'm late to the party on this but my understanding is when he said "anal is default" what he meant was "producers should always ask if she's down to do anal". Doesn't mean every scene will or even should be, just that we never miss an opportunity simply because we didn't ask.

                I think this could have been more clear, since obviously not everyone is familiar with castings/shoots.

                Not every performer is willing to shoot anal content, and of those who are willing - they may not be able to on any given day for a wide variety of reasons.

                Similarly for bgg+ scenes - cancelations happen at a much higher rate than I imagine anyone who is not familiar would expect, so by booking 2+ girls you're covering yourself by allowing for a b/g scene to happen if there is indeed a cancelation.

                Just to give an idea - of the approx. 17 scenes in the current post-production pipeline: 3 include anal. And of those 17 scenes, 8 are bgg+ (and 9 are b/g).

                  justsomedude101 changed the title to Recap Thread: the landmark Originals production call .

                  justsomedude101 Just to give an idea - of the approx. 17 scenes in the current post-production pipeline: 3 include anal. And of those 17 scenes, 8 are bgg+ (and 9 are b/g).

                  those numbers seem totally reasonable to me. is the proportion of anal or threesome scenes going to increase beyond that?

                    spacepirate those numbers seem totally reasonable to me. is the proportion of anal or threesome scenes going to increase beyond that?

                    I'm no psychic (...unless?), but with the 20 scheduled shoots on the docket: 1 is planned for anal and 11 are bgg+, so I would expect the law of averages to put it not too far off from the sample size I mentioned.

                      spacepirate the Reddit post he linked to was entitled ‘why is VR so focused on anal and threesomes’. The post on here about default anal scenes has not materialised so he is complaining about something which hasn’t happened yet nor do I expect it to.

                      Will’s post also went on to endorse the guys views that VR should be about real sex with real looking girls instead of the girls all looking like strippers covered in tattoos with fake tits. That there should be no performance, no dirty talk, just quietly whimpering “I love you” in your ear and then staring tenderly in your eyes as you gently make love. Basically removing the entertainment side from adult entertainment. There’s a place for those scenes but they absolutely should not be the norm. Most scenes are pretty GFE vanilla as it is and most do not feature fake tits and lots of tattoos.

                      I am an anal fan but I am not someone who expects or feels entitled to get what they want 100% of the time. I just wanted them to regularly pepper in some anal scenes. If they’re releasing 4 or 5 scenes per week, maybe 1 could be anal and the other 4 non anal. Studios were going 6 months, some 12 months without a single anal scene.

                      I wanted to feel like, if they hired an anal specialist, if a Tommy King, Maddy May, April Olsen, Emma Hix, showed up, there was a decent chance it would include some anal sex. Not every time of course, I’m not looking to ruin things for anyone else, but a decent proportion of the time so that it’s not like now where I’m totally shocked if a scene includes anal. Think of a site like Brazzers for example who most would consider are a vanilla site but, if they shoot a Jane Wilde, an Adriana Chechik, Angela White, Bridgette B etc. it’s often an anal scene.

                      VR shoot lots of new girls who don’t do anal so anal will never be the default and it shouldn’t be unless you are an anal themed site.

                        justsomedude101 Similarly for bgg+ scenes - cancelations happen at a much higher rate than I imagine anyone who is not familiar would expect, so by booking 2+ girls you're covering yourself by allowing for a b/g scene to happen if there is indeed a cancelation.

                        Yeah, but then you're effectively saying that if a scene is BG it was only because someone didn't show up. Not BG for the sake of BG (to satisfy those who like / prefer that) but because it was the only way to salvage the shoot. Makes financial sense, I'm sure, but it says to people who prefer BG over BGG+ that they aren't a core audience for you any more. Which kind of stings. Then the points that @Will65 made about the issues in doing scripts for scenes with many performers also I think are worth considering. As the premium brand for scripted content, SLRs scripts ought to be first rate, every time, and in ever-increasing numbers.

                        For myself, I don't mind BGG or even BGGG but that's about as far as I want to go, and honestly more than one girl is only really enjoyable for me if I'm into their interactions with each other, and if they do interact fully in the scene, and no, just double-teaming you is not enough. I have zero desire to be the sole centre of attention for multiple performers, it's not a fantasy of mine and never has been. At the same time I'm not much into GFE either. One-on-one with someone you only just met or shouldn't be doing it with is much hotter to me than imaginary girlfriend sex. But I find relationships tedious generally so I guess that's just my kink :-)

                        Look, no-one can reasonably expect all the content to be exactly what they prefer, unless it's a studio specifically dedicated to that sort of content, and SLR is not a specialist studio (although it does play one on TV from time to time). But announcing a shift in focus for your default setup is going to make some people feel like they're getting the short end of the stick. It doesn't surprise me at all that not everyone is OK with it. At the same time, whatever general direction you announce is going to piss someone off. I guess that's what this forum is for, as long as we all keep it civil...

                          BungaBunga Yeah, but then you're effectively saying that if a scene is BG it was only because someone didn't show up. Not BG for the sake of BG (to satisfy those who like / prefer that) but because it was the only way to salvage the shoot.

                          I mentioned one more post down that we still shoot plenty of b/g scenes as planned b/g scenes, not just due to castings falling through.

                          justsomedude101 with the 20 scheduled shoots on the docket: 1 is planned for anal and 11 are bgg+

                          so 9 scenes scheduled out of 20 that are by default planned as b/g scenes.