SLR vision and logic

Mutiny

Will65 This is a well-reasoned, reasonable, specific list of issues and I appreciate you taking the time to write it up. I don't agree with all of your conclusions (obvs), but I see where you're coming from. Hope you get what you want out of all this in the future.

Will65

Mutiny And notice how the core CzechVR scenes are relaesed regularly, with the niche updates being fewer, and all of them on a published, predictable release schedule. SLR could learn from that.

Mutiny

Will65 Agreed.

BML5768

Will65
I get your complaints, and I also agree with some of them. But unless you are a very new subscriber during the "glory days" of SLR Originals (1-2 years ago, like you mentioned) you were getting 2 videos a week that matched the genre you "signed up for". You are still getting your 2 videos a week in that genre, usually 3 to be fair. Now, if those 2-3 videos a week are no longer meeting your standards of quality due to warehouse locations, poor direction, or whatever that's certainly fair criticism and issue you should bring up.

However, if SLR is now producing 4 videos a week and 1, on average since they bumped up the weekly scene count, of them is Passthrough, non-traditional genre, etc. that really isn't whats diluting the quality of the videos you are getting. That's a quality issue with those 2-3 scenes you should be addressing. The new scenes are in addition to the 2-3 weekly videos that are still being made. Its a separate issue so don't hate on the folks who are asking for a little more variety. There is room on this site for people getting a couple of high quality traditional videos per week and the other genres getting one too.

rerun119

BML5768 I think you are missing the point and it right in front of you. He is complaining about the warehouse stuff, poor direction and all the other stuff. He is saying this is all happening because they are now focusing on a hundred other things. They stopped making "glory days" videos because they aren't paying any attention to that anymore, They are paying attention to green videos and JAV and EURO teams.

LordCrash

rerun119

I think with the now announced separation of SLR releases this will become severly better.

Combine that with some predictable release schedule and most issues in terms of organization should be solved.

BML5768

rerun119
I don't think that's the issue. They have a separate team for the JAV videos. The Euro scenes are from a separate team. And Nash isn't involved in Trans or anything like that.
Their core US production team isn't producing videos up to some peoples standards anymore due to locations, scripting, directing, etc. That's completely different teams, its not like one team producing good content in one genre is preventing another team from producing good content in theirs too. Its not a zero sum game. All teams are capable of producing great scenes that meet high standards and that should be the goal. The goal shouldn't be to stop making everything outside from one specific genre. That's my point I'm trying to articulate.

LordCrash

LordCrash

BML5768
The truth lies imho somewhere in between. While what you've said is true for the production team on set it's not entirely true for the inhouse stuff doing the editing and scripting etc. You might have enough people on the field but to me it seems that they don't have enough staff for all the stuff that happens after the actual shoot took place. And that's a real issue if you want to increase production but struggle with staff shortcomings in certain areas. That naturally leads to either some drop in quality or delays or both.

BML5768

LordCrash
That's fair. I agree with that and I think you're right about editing and scripts.
Still I think the overall long term goal should be for higher quality AND diversity of content. Just scapegoating the 8 scenes that fall outside of the norm (Greenscreen, JAV, Trans) like they are the entirety of the issue is really not accurate, and that's what I originally took issue with. That's such a tiny amount of the production over the last year and really has nothing to do with most of the complaints being leveled against the regular scenes (which were being complained about before any of these new scenes even existed anyways).

rerun119

BML5768 How about this
4 green video, 3 with girls that have never done a VR video before. Still have never done a VR video that wasn't green. SLR the company booked these girls and decided to boost their green videos popularity by putting these newbies in them. This is a decision that affects me. They chose to spend their money on green over other.

LordCrash

rerun119 SLR the company booked these girls and decided to boost their green videos popularity by putting these newbies in them. This is a decision that affects me. They chose to spend their money on green over other.

Well, for what it's worth, I'd guess that these newbies were actually cheaper than some seasoned pornstars. Of course it sucks that we see some new talent only in PT scenes so far but I really doubt that SLR invested big in talent here. More likely they deliberately chose newbies to keep the talent costs down, simply since they were not sure how this stuff would be perceived. I mean, we complained about seasoned talent in PT greenscreen as well (like Xxlayna Marie...)...

Let's just hope that these greenscreen newbies will appear in some regular VR scenes as well in the foreseeable future. 😉

justsomedude101

Yep, users who don't like Passthrough scenes would inevitably be disappointed with the casting either way, whether it's a newbie or a seasoned talent, which is totally understandable. I don't believe anything will be changing from what's always been done for all SLRO scenes: a combination of scenes with both types of talent.

But either way, the Passthrough scenes should soon be under a "new" studio to separate them a bit from the standard scenes, so for anyone who isn't a fan you won't have to pay attention to them. And for those who like them you can still easily watch them. Also, hopefully the "alpha channel" work for the green screen scenes should make them more palatable for folks who aren't interested in the Passthrough aspect or don't have a supported headset/etc.

dango789

LordCrash I actually feel that casting fresh talent is one of the strong points of SLR. I for one would much rather see a video with a fresh new pornstar than a video of a someone with 20 other videos already.

I like seeing talent in SLR that I can’t find anywhere else.

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justsomedude101 Passthrough scenes

Wouldn't the smart investment be to explore AI masking technology rather than shooting scenes specifically for Passthrough?

Quest 3 just got a major downgrade in production. Apparently there will be a reduction in resolution, since it will feature a single display rather than two displays, like Quest Pro.

Nothing yet on whether is will have a quantum dot layer...

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Narrative problems, etc.

One easy means of addressing narrative deficiency would be to delay the period between when the video starts and when the hard-core sex begins.

1) Why do these scenes often begin with women in prostitute attire? Good porn requires delayed gratification, or rather the option to jump right to the dirty bits or to appreciate the setting and mood of a scene. There should be an element of strip tease and slow, suspenseful reveal. The recent film with Ginger Grey, though set at a strip club, was a good start. Although the similar stripper-themed episode with Ariel Darling had potential, the idea of suspenseful cinema in porn focuses on the female lead who is to be stripped and exposed. The film, though with a fine story, lacked focus on the protagonist.

2) Prolong the period where the female is naked and the male is clothed. That's where JAV excels above much of the American porn. By extending this period you have greater opportunity for a sense of connection to develop.

3) Use literature and film as your inspiration. If the viewer has an awareness of cinematic context from other experiences, your work in direction and production should be much easier.

Mutiny

[deleted] Great notes. I agree.

argyle43

[deleted] slow, suspenseful reveal

are you that “pussy reveal” guy that had all the pdfs, and telling all the studios what is and isn’t good porn, as if there’s a formula that could be applied that pleases everybody? Letting you in on a secret: there isn’t one 🤫

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Ew. I just don't understand what appeals to you most in this... That there are a whole bunch of naked dudes or that the women are wearing masks...

Take my advice, it's a bad idea to have sex with a woman who is wearing a mask... Masks are typically for the guests at these parties, rather than the performers, since the guests don't want to be recognized by the other attendees.

LordCrash

[deleted] Ew. I just don't understand what appeals to you most in this... That there are a whole bunch of naked dudes or that the women are wearing masks...

The furniture. That table looks really classy. And the couch seems to be comfortable. And the white plushy carpet makes me especially horny.

SchnuppiLilac

[deleted] Quest 3 just got a major downgrade in production. Apparently there will be a reduction in resolution

Are you sure about the downgrade? Reduction compared to what? Last rumour I saw: expected resolution for the Quest 3 is 4,128 by 2,208 pixels or 2,064 by 2,208 pixels per eye. Quest Pro has what, 1800x1920 per eye?

petermc

dango789 you’re not wrong if that’s what you enjoy. I just think that a VR performance is more involved than a standard porn scene. If you’ve not really done porn before, it’s going to be challenging enough to be in a standard porn scene without all the additional stuff needed in VR like keeping eye contact with a camera lens rather than the person you’re having sex with, also having to carry the whole scene narratively as the guy is completely silent. I feel someone more experienced in porn, who can do the sex part in their sleep, will be better able to concentrate on, and perform the extra stuff that’s unique to VR.

Some of these new girls they use just can’t carry a scene with enough personality to make it entertaining to me.

I suppose if you like to see a girl who’s a little nervous and shy on camera as that’s more real to you than a “porn performance” with experienced girls deepthroating dicks and talking dirty, then the newbie girls are great. My personal preference is for the more slutty pornstar performance as that’s more entertaining and sexy to me.

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dango789 I for one would much rather see a video with a fresh new pornstar

Check indexxx.com. Many of the models on here have an extensive resume of previous work. In one respect that's good: we know they aren't trafficked victims of a GDP-type scam. In another respect it's not-so-good: the performances can look mechanical.

The bigger concern would be using new models appropriately for the format of SLR. Newer models lack experience with the kinds of performances required for VR (watch the SLR Originals video with Angel Gostosa, for example)... But some newer models are better (e.g., Adrianna Jade).

For SLR to focus on "new" models they would have to consider more casting-like scenarios. And want to do that sort of thing... I gave them a tip off on Myra Glasford, who appeared earlier today on NetVideoGirls. She would have been ideal for a follow-up to the Blake Blossom Fifty Shades as a VR porn debut. No one listened. Now they'd have to pay much more for agent fees, etc.

https://coamodels.com/models-1

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Yes.

According to the latest rumor posted by SadlyItsBradly, Quest 3 will feature a display of 4,128 x 2,208, as you say...

HOWEVER, the resolution will be the same if not slightly less than Quest Pro, rather than a 30% increase over Quest Pro, as initially speculated...

Mr. Smelly adds "They seem to be using a single display for Quest 3 these days. "

If this is so, the screen measurements would ignore the loss of pixels from IPD adjustment...

Nevertheless, in one respect there may be improvement: many users of Quest Pro reported a jitter effect caused by the slight rotation of the two panels.

Possibly the design change from two panels back to one panel was to address that problem -- but more likely it was a matter of production costs, given unexpected rates of inflation, and the need for Meta to be price-competitive against Pico 4.

ByteDance, the owners of Pico -- and TikTok -- have been able to take a major financial hit for each headset they sell. The new strategy is partly due to the success to TikTok, against lack of adequate government oversight and regulation. It may also be due to dark money funneled by the Chinese government to encourage a larger user-base for Pico's store and services (for reasons of data-mining of younger users...).

https://twitter.com/sadlyitsbradley/status/1620912705019461640

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