DeoVR v HereSphere

BENONL9NE

Ok now I get the problem. U cant stream with HS. The streams count as download. So u forced to use the ... DEO App. I thonk when I want to stream in good quality then I hv to leave SLR. Its anoying.

BENONL9NE

Hurto11 What Headset ?

BENONL9NE

Vrsumo2017 Not my HS ! There is nothing to stream.

damian

I don't get why nobody has mentioned this. But the only thing I really love about HS is when you hold the trigger and move the controller around to pan your image up, down, left, right. It works easy and intuitively, it doesn't break immersion that much when the image needs to be slightly corrected. Right now with DeoVR you open the menu, locate the view settings and look at the menu while using sliders to control the Pitch, Yaw, etc.
After seeing how HereSphere implemented it, the DeoVR way of doing it feels clunky.

Having that feature within the controller would make DeoVR the most complete VR Player for me. Autofocus is nice but still not sure what the hype is. I'm a big fan of your Handy edging and how it works.. much better than other players imo

Keep up the good work

vztfu

damian This feature is available on Deo. The controls are just slightly different. You press and hold the grip trigger and then simultaneously press and hold the main trigger button. After that you can adjust the camera positions by pivoting the controller.

Vrsumo2017

damian But the only thing I really love about HS is when you hold the trigger and move the controller around to pan your image up, down, left, right.

I do that on deo, you gotta costume your controls G

Hairsational

Hurto11 you will always lose a bit of quality over internet connection, but not that much imo, at least not with my internet.

Nonsense. There is no inherent quality loss from streaming over the internet. If you are streaming via an app like DeoVR, HereSphere or Playa then the video quality between streamed videos and downloaded videos is identical because the same video file is used in both scenarios.

Vrsumo2017

vztfu yeah, I changed that to one button.

doublevr

BENONL9NE It's the top priority for Deo team to boost image quality. We are looking for a strong tech lead to figure it out.
The guys are looking into:

Oculus new SDK has new sharpening feature
A/B test different image settings - new sharpness shader, saturation, etc.
Play with eye texture scale - but this could degrade performance (HS has it optional)

Bear with us

BENONL9NE

doublevr Im bear for a long time ... I MUST use DEO since years. SLR force me to use this app. I never had a good immersion ore image quality. I never see good image quality. Not In moon vr, not in skybox VR, not in pegasus ( but app is ok ) and not in DEO VR.

The only time on my quest carrier I saw a good picture and hv a good immersion is in virtual desktop ( files from pc ) and Herespere VR !

I made a test I watched the same scene in diffrent player and I did stream the scene. HereSpere wins high !

I always need to tweek the view a bit. DEO gets more blurry. DEO on quest 1/2 is blurry a bit at streaming. HS is clean hv a deepnes and sharpness DEO dont hv. And also the skin looking more natural in HS then in DEO.

Why there are always a fight. DEO and Herespere need to work together. 👍So that there are 2 versions of DEO a standard version and a advanced version of DEO ! Maybe the secound one is paid then. And both versions are delivering the best from DEO with the best from HS.

But this is just a dream. Companys are just care about profit and money and not about the costumers.

bigmuffpi

To the OP's point about the autofocus making him dizzy: I don't know what to tell you man that's honestly one of the biggest selling points for me with HereSphere. When I have to adjust the horizontal shift to accommodate when scenes go from far away to close up views, it's a big pain in the ass.

Another thing HereSphere does that I really like is it's ability to adjust the viewing scale of the video to match the camera it was shot/encoded with. A lot of times you'll have a video that looks absolutely dogshit in almost every format except for a handful that match the specific fisheye or wide angle lens.

Lastly HereSphere really nails 3DOF. Yeah DeoVR has it too, but it just feels much less responsive, less accurate, and more restrictive.

DeoVR is great don't get me wrong, but these technical features really add huge layers of immersion to the viewing experience.

Kolaches

Vrsumo2017 are you able to pan? Or are you only able to "recenter" to where you're looking?

Kolaches

HS may have better quality but that's not the main draw for me. For me I just love the feeling I can get any video looking just right with the different settings and the fact they're easy to access/use. DEO is a nightmare to use the settings. Maybe it's because I only use it lying down but I always have to crane the shit out of my neck to start doing stuff in DEO because everything is SO FAR off screen. Even setting the recenter to thumbstick in, I can't move it around. I have to hold it then look around myself. Just let me hold trigger and move the picture around with the controller!

EDIT: like for passthrough videos that you guys are pushing. They're pretty much the only time I use Deo and it's freaking impossible to line everything up correctly most of the time. Many times, my neck cannot even go the direction it needs to in order to line it up with "recenter". So since I can't get the right angle I just nope out of the video as it's essentially unwatchable for me

Vrsumo2017

Kolaches both, it's in the settings you gotta customize it, shit bro I gotta get into the helmet to see what option it is

But if you ever used skybox that's how I have it set up, I hold button x or z and move the the picture up down side to side

SchnuppiLilac

Kolaches are you able to pan?

Took me ages to find out and I only did by accident since someone mentioned it here in the forum. I think the setting is called 'Dome rotation'. With the standard two-button keybinding (for Q2), you need to make sure to press the primary hand button before the primary index trigger.

theHobbit

BENONL9NE I agree with most of what you say. For me though I can get by with the Deo app but I do prefer Heresphere.

For some reason I like the SLR scenes on Deo though and prefer them to Heresphere, however what I don't like about the Deo app is that for me anyway it's so slow compared to Heresphere. The site itself takes ages to render and I get the 3 spinning circles for a long time when I want to navigate the site or skip through a scene.

I use a Quest2 and don't have these issues with the SLR or POVR site on Heresphere.

doublevr

I can see the logic of HereSphere "Right(scale)" is exactly the same as our Horizontal Offset. The effect is the same as can be seen from this comparison video attached. At first I though that they leverage FOV adjustment. But from the looks of it it is just to offset the eyes.

https://www.redgifs.com/watch/willingchartreusegoitered

Hairsational

Word on the street is that HS PT is way better than DeoVR PT

thatoculusdude

Hairsational Wait, what? Greenscreen PT? Or alpha?

SchnuppiLilac

Hairsational Taking this with a grain of salt because how would anyone know that it's way better while the developer is still trying to make it work

HereSphere Developer 5 days ago
Getting close. The image masking is working well. But I'm currently running into an annoying Unreal Engine bug where translucent materials aren't properly writing their alpha values to the frame buffer. Update should be ready when/if I'm able to fix this issue, hopefully by early next week, but this is a tricky bug that requires tracking down and modifying the engine rendering code.

Hurto11

It hasn’t even been released yet

doublevr

SchnuppiLilac where is it coming from?

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