DeoVR v HereSphere

ThorOfAsgard

iddqd Only a couple days left on my sub. But can you answer this? How is it that it is effectively a guarantee that whatever you changed happened in the early december 2023 update (happened within a weeks time since my last use until the deovr update and it went to crap right after that update...so that is what did it) and you cant figure out what you changed that screwed things up? Id think thats pretty simple to figure out as it was 1 update that did it. And in testing roll back to the prior update and see that it works.

iddqd

ThorOfAsgard I wish it was that simple!

I know what changes caused this issue - Meta/Oculus SDK updates and many other things that are part of the app.
It is impossible and makes no sense reverting these as this.

We will try reworking Steam version of the app.

Why don't you use native Q3 app if you have Q3?
Why do you use windows app?

rerun119

iddqd We will try reworking Steam version of the app.

I can't use the steam version with my Pimax either. The setting menu starts glitching and skipping all over the place. Then the longer you use it the worse the video plays. I truly can not use it anymore at all. Hepesphere works like a champ with everything, always.
I don't understand just saying we are better than they are. Just because you say it doesn't convince me of anything.
I don't see people saying Playa app is better than DEO or Whirigig is better than DEO because they aren't. Hereshpere is better than all others imo. So go copy what he does and make it better than the one guy. That is how all business works. If he did copy something from you guys then that is great for us users. Don't just say you are better, become better then you won't have to say anything

ThorOfAsgard

iddqd No this is untrue because the problem started immediately after the early mid december update to deovr. I also had used deovr less than a week prior and it was working at that time and there was no quest update in between. This was 100% that deovr update and you guys are ignoring what im telling you. This was before any quest update. I was using quest 2 at the time, im now using quest 3.

I dont really use any native quest programs. Mostly all PC. I like having access to everything on the PC.

doublevr

ThorOfAsgard you are confusing performance with player logic
Player logic and features are 85% copy of DeoVR. The dude has no own vision.

On performance side DeoVR is still catching up, but it's secondary.

DeoVR is the one who brings all new stuff. HS is just a copy.

It's abot time to get its superperformance back and lead all the way up

ThorOfAsgard

doublevr I dont know about what code is inside it that would make you call it a copy, but from a user experience all that matters is it seeks literally 20 times faster than deovr and it has a crapload more features, hotkeys and so much more. Its telling that instead of improving your product to the level of HS which is far better you just say its a copy.

SchnuppiLilac

iddqd DeoVR is not just a local files player.

Btw, why is being connected to the internet now mandatory for playing local files in DeoVR? I am asking because an internet connection is absolutely unnecessary for playing local files.

doublevr

SchnuppiLilac because it's not a local player

iddqd

SchnuppiLilac it's necessary for us to make sure people use latest version and to focus more on streaming experience.
We will make it less strict soon.

SchnuppiLilac

doublevr because it's not a local player

It still is a local player when there is an internet connection

sylvan

for me too the version of deo since December 2023 lag; so I use an old version of deo. I specify that I do not have a quest (I ordered one then returned it because it is complicated when using a pc), but reverb g2

ThorOfAsgard

sylvan How did you use an older version of deovr? The devs here are telling us thats not possible.

sylvan

PS I mainly use heresphere because "sharp" works well (I put it at maximum) which allows that the videos often too blurry for my taste become sharper, the faces have a more marked character what; with deo: "sharp" does not work well: it does not give the precision of "sharp" of heresphere; I do not know why but it is like that; the difference of sharpness with heresphere and sharp is obvious: because when I open a video it takes a few seconds before "sharp" acts: and we see the difference

doublevr

sylvan thx for bringing it up 👍

Looking into it

iddqd

sylvan thanks for sharing. We will compare it to HS and see what we can do

sylvan

fenderwq

Yeah the seek speed on heresphere is really good. BTW, seeking in deovr quest is much faster then deovr steam for some reason.

ThorOfAsgard

fenderwq I tried downloading deovr straight to my quest 3 headset and yep it worked with none of the lines or low fps and it was seeking much faster too (even faster than deovr on PC seeked before it got screwed up, but still not as fast as heresphere on PC), However there is no way i would use it straight from the headset. For starters i couldnt use my headphones. Plus i really need to be able to see my desktop. And that doesnt bring up the fact that i couldnt watch videos saved to my computer in deovr.

iddqd

ThorOfAsgard I'm not talking about the headset firmware, SDK is part of the app.
I got your point. Thanks for sharing.
Will do our best to catch up

ThorOfAsgard

ThorOfAsgard What it sounds like to me is as if someone stripped down an old car to its chassis and rebuilt it on the original chassis to something in a new working great condition with all new features... then calling it a copy.

sylvan

ThorOfAsgard https://steamcommunity.com/app/837380/discussions/0/4364628673436108712/

sylvan

iddqd ok good

Vrsumo2017

iddqd hey bro, can yall add a slider that will transparent the edges of the vr videos.

The falloff transparents the whole picture so it fades out colors.

What I wanna do is Transparent just the edges of the picture.

I was working out along with a vr video on jillvr, I tried using the falloff but it just makes everything transparent, I just want to fade out the edges when in pass-through

Kinda like avp, you don't really see the edges of the video, it's faded

So, a slider you slide to right it fades out the edges, the more you slide the more it fades out making fov smaller.

You know what I mean?

gillon

doublevr This may very well be true - but if he/they are able to copy features "fast enough" and execute them better, that's going to be superior for end users.

Hoping Deo can catch up as has already been mentioned.

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