Can we please get non-greenscreen versions?

LordCrash subscribers who paid good money with the promise in mind that they just get more of the stuff that were sold to them at the moment they subscribed.

You're still getting the amount of new weekly videos you subscribed for. At least 2 new VR videos every single week.

LordCrash Your "you don't get less content" statemtn is a logical fallacy for the simple reason that the additional scenes could have been VR scenes instead of AR/MR scenes.

That's not what a logical fallacy is. But yes, the burger people are not going to get 4 burgers a week while the pizza fans get nothing. There is a big demand for the new stuff, so that's selfish and absurd. There is room for both.

LordCrash The costs of the subscription goes up but the stuff I'd like to see and I've subscribed for doesn't.

SLR subscription prices stay at where you subscribe at. So that's just false. I've been a sub for 3+ years and its still the $15/month deal I was offered (Thanks SLR, that's a great deal). I'm pretty sure they aren't raising costs on people who have paid for a lifetime sub years ago either.
Also, if you go look at all of the SLR scenes released in the last calendar month, I bet you'll find that 80% of them are regular genre VR scenes. So the amount of regular VR content is actually going up despite your claim. They have added 2 new videos a week to their schedule since Feb 2022 and most of them have been normal genre VR videos. If you signed up more than a year ago you paid for 2 videos a week and now you're getting 3 (on average) regular scenes, and 1 (on average) MR or non-traditional genre VR scene. That is 50% more, not less.

LordCrash Just cope with the reality that you can't always please everyone and that some people don't like the stuff you like.

This logic also applies to the people who don't like the new content.

LordCrash In reality, it means that they use resources and money on certain things and that they can't use the same resources and money on certain other things

1. That's not necessarily true. The more revenue SLR generates, the more resources they have to produce content.
2. That's a two way street. Its paying subscribers who are asking for the new content they want with their subscription dollars.

As far as your other point, opportunity cost, there is probably more lost opportunity in not ever diversifying. The ideal business decision would be to provide your long term customers the content they want and ALSO add content that customers are asking for. Again, its not a binary decision, there is room to make both sets of customers happy.

LordCrash People aren't unhappy about getting less they are unhappy because they don't get more

As you can go look at for yourself, and I pointed out, they are getting more. The majority of the extra videos added to the schedule are regular genre VR videos. Go look at the last months releases, like I said.

I'm not trying to be argumentative with you at all. I'm just trying to understand your logic. To me it just seems clear there is room to make everyone happy.
As a hypothetical question, if SLR upped their release schedule to daily videos, 7 a week, how many would you find acceptable to be dedicated to genres/MR that you aren't personally interested in? You seem to want 4/4 now, would that still be the same with more?

BML5768 As far as your other point, opportunity cost, there is more lost opportunity in not diversifying. The ideal business decision would be to provide your long term customers the content they want and ALSO add content that customers are asking for. Again, its not a binary decision, there is room to make both sets of customers happy.

You're looking at it from a differnt angle than me. I don't speak about SLR's opportunity costs, but mine. Huge difference.

BML5768 As a hypothetical question, if SLR upped their release schedule to daily videos, 7 a week, how many would you find acceptable to be dedicated to genres/MR that you aren't personally interested in? You seem to want 4/4 now, would that still be the same with more?

That's not a binary question. I'd be happy that there were more scenes but I'd also be unhappy that some of the additional scenes were scenes that I can't or don't want to watch.
You know, the world isn't only black and white and people are complex beings. It sounds weird but people are usually more unhappy about lost opportunities than not having much in the first place. If I only have X and there isn't more than X and I don't know that there could be more than X I'm completely happy with X. But if there is now x+1 and I know that there could be x+2 as well, x+1 feels a whole lot less satisfying than x ever felt although x+1 is factually more than x. That's why poor people in isolated regions don't really feel poor. People feel poor when they look at rich people, even though they migtt have a lot less than the objectively poor people in isolated places. That's how our brains work, we always compare stuff. IF SLR is clever - and it seems that they finally grasp human psychology - they separate stuff in different channels and might even offer different subscription models. If you don't have to look at the things and deal with the things that could have been but aren't it's a whole lot easier not to think about them and being happier in general.

LordCrash I'd be happy that there were more scenes but I'd also be unhappy that some of the additional scenes were scenes that I can't or don't want to watch.

I get that. I feel the same way. As a paying customer I get that when there are just a few videos coming out, they might not all be personally suited for me. It just feels bad than when more content is finally being made, that a bunch of us like and have been asking for, people are so negative and hostile against it.

I think you're right too. Keep the 2-3 weekly normal videos on a set schedule under the normal channel and add the new ones under something else. That will hopefully keep the more selfish side of human nature you described under control.

BML5768 It just feels bad than when more content is finally being made, that a bunch of us like and have been asking for, people are so negative and hostile against it.

That's why it would have been a lot better if something like passthrough that is actually a completely different form of "headset porn" (VR vs AR/MR) had been separated into a different channel or even a different site from the very start. Those interested in it could have checked it out there and everybody else probably wouldn't even have taken big notice in the first place. Separate sub could have been an option but not necessarily.

Just to name a little but powerful detail: Why is there a JAV filter but no passthrough filter? I can easily navigate on SLR without all that censored JAV stuff and most of the times I don't even think about it being there at all. Passthrough scenes are cluttered into the regular SLRO releases though and you literally can't avoid them right now. So you are forced to deal with them, to think about them - and to think about the lost opportunity by just checking out the upcoming scenes or the latest SLRO releases.

Or take the burger joint example: It would have been better if they just opened a pizza restaurant next door.

rerun119 Imho @vrfanservice can be the very best in the industry, even better than Nash. It's a bit of a gamble though since the quality varies a lot. Non-warehouse scenes are almost aways a whole lot better than the warehouse scenes.

Melody's GOAT scene was also shot by VRfanservice. If any of his scenes were that good SLR would be on a completely different level. The latest scene was a step in right direction, very well executed.

rerun119 I'm not discounting your complaints with the non-passthrough scenes.

But if the quality of non-passthrough videos in your opinion has somehow suffered over time, or not meet your expectations, a fair solution would be to ask SLR make better non-passthrough scenes based on your feedback.

I think it's fair to offer constructive criticism with hopes of an improved product.

The feedback i took issue with however wasnt at all related to requests to increase the quality of non-passthrough. Or constructive at all.

It was those who were suggesting ceasing the production/release of SLR original passthrough scenes, in order to make way and let 100% of the current monthly quota of SLR original releases become non-passthrough.

Essentially saying "please don't waste any time/money/talent making scenes that I don't personally like even though other people love them. Just cater to my tastes only"

bobbytables I do hear what you're saying. And if you want better quality non-passthrough scenes, it makes sense to offer constructive criticism and ask for better quality non-passthrough scenes.

SLR Original Passthrough scenes are in the pretty tiny minority. They're averaging what...1 per month? Maybe 2? You tell me... I know it isn't many.

So anyone asking them to stop making passthrough because they want better quality non-passthrough scenes is being utterly ridiculous and going about things the wrong way

It's reasonable to ask for more of what you do want. That's what these forums are for.

but expecting there to be less/none of what you personally dislike is indeed asking for yout tastes to be catered to exclusively.

As in "please stop making what other customers like, and put 100% of your time, resources and talent into only making what I like."

Other people are subscribed to this site too, and their tastes are often going to be different to yours.

It's unreasonable to have the expectation that your tastes would be would be prioritised over the tastes of others, especially to the point of demanding 0% passthrough content.

SLR aims to cater to a wide variety of customers by offering a wide variety of content instead of being a smalller niche site.

This offer of variety has always been what they've advertised and represents their primary edge over competitors, and they're trying to maintain that in a rapidly developing industry.

For this reason, they aren't going to actively make decisions to reduce variety
I truly think you just need to accept this.

That being said, variety isn't everything and quality is very important too. So any constructive criticism or requests in regards to increasing the quality of the type of content which you do like (as opposed to requesting less of content which you dislike) is obviously welcome as that's what these forums are for.

rerun119 unbelieveable.
We've got a thread specifically about improving passthrough content, with a possible alternative version of passthrough scenes released to appease the non-passthrough people who already get about 95% non-passthrough content.

Which is fine, because more content is always a good thing.

But then people literally started saying "fuck passthrough. It's unwatchable. SLR should be 100% non-passthrough like back in the good old days. Put them on a separate site. This isn't what I signed up for"

And when I point out "that really isn't cool, a lot of SLR subscribers love passthrough. Including myself" you're getting snarky and saying "well, it's not all about you and your passthrough videos!"