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LordCrash not everybody is happy with this consistency idea in general.

But isn’t this (which you wrote further up) a call for exactly some sort of consistency? 👇🏻

LordCrash just copy everything CVR does. VR porn gold standard right there. It's that simple.

before you go and lose your mind, I do agree with it 100% as I’m sure many others do.

    argyle43 But isn’t this (which you wrote further up) a call for exactly some sort of consistency? 👇🏻

    You left out the first part of my sentence which is imho pretty importance for its meaning...

    LordCrash If you had to standardize angles...

    I'd much prefer no standardization at all.

    Even if you feature multiple positions, you still need different angles. Angles that are good at intimacy are not good at showing off the body.

    Let's take the shot below as an example:

    This is a great sex position for featuring the body, but the close viewing angle is not suited for it. It's virtually impossible to look at the body and the face together.

    Here is the actual view from my VR headset (Quest 2):



    I'm forced to look at the face, the body OR one leg in isolation. I would much rather be able to see the body and the face at the same time.

    Please feature multiple angles, closer ones for intimacy and further ones for showing off the body.

      dango789 I will say that this also has to do with the headset you are using. I use to have an HTC vive and had to move my head around to see everything. I've had a Pimax 8kx for about 6 months now. You can see everything that you do IRL so you just have to move your eyes. I think this plays a part in the old camera new camera debate too. Just a thought one your screen shots.

        rerun119 That's a great point! I'm using a Quest 2, which I gather to be one of the more common headsets.

        It'd be awesome if we could have angles good for both intimacy and body that accommodate for the most common headsets.

        The forward leaning CG in "Si, Mi Amor" was amazing (link below). Best i've seen. Eve Sweet's face was close to camera (near my face) and her tits and penetration were still in clear view (around the 29:40 mark). Very intimate and amazing visually. Wow!
        https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/si-mi-amor-30156

        Same great forward CG camera position on another recent SLR release, "Giving Her Comfort" with Valentina Nappi. (around the 28:28 & 37:10 mark). I hope a minute or two of this forward CG will be in every SLR release going forward.
        https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/giving-her-comfort-30458

          I would prefer creativity over consistency. It also depends on the girl - you should try to catch her most interesting parts and those are not the same for every girl. Even the body size can require slightly different angles.

          dango789

          As an engineer who has designed many algorithms to cater to the VOC (voice of the customer). Best way to do this.... There should be certain angles/distances you avoid entirely (i.e either not realistic/immersive at all or distance is just too far or too close) and then a RANGE of acceptable distances. So each position essentially should have an acceptance range. Ill give a few general examples: For instance lean back cowgirl can be incredible when shot right or terrible when the girls face and body are too far back and get blurred/fuzzy. You also dont usually the girls head when she is riding the guy all the way at the tip top of the lense sight field . That kills immersion (unless its specifically for a short time for boob smothering/slapping and or to stare at her torso/belly while gyrating on your cock).

          Another key to this: always keep in mind with each and every angle what is the purpose of that angle. For instance, If its intimacy you want to be able to have a close look into her eyes face. Having the ability to see all key parts of the body most of the time and feel like its totally realistic is critical (even if you might occasionally need to tilt up or down depending on position).

          Also in that acceptance range is going to be really focused on (no pun intended) getting the camera angles /distances in positions that would be the same in real life in those positions. As others have attested, Doggy is a huge example of this one. When this is dead on you really feel like you are right in that position, when it isn't it feels a bit surreal and that you are not really in the scene.

          Pussy close ups should have two ideal sets of viewing distances: 1. Where you get a perfect view of her beautiful snatch and then (not too close where you are going cross eyed) 2. One where you truly feel like you are tasting her. This can be mixed together too if the girl goes a bit back and forth within a specified range.

          Missionary [one of my faves when done right] should also have 2 ideal sets of viewing distances. 1. The full view. This is where the actress is usually flat on her back and you get a fuller view of her body and can see your member going in and out of her pussy at a perfect viewing distance without too much tilting up and down. 2. The intimacy view. This is where usually the actress leans upward a bit and you can look/stare right into each others eyes as you go in and out of her. You usually would start with the fuller view and then move into intimacy view as it is more immersive that way.

          As for leaning forward cowgirl user 1MM1 nailed it with his input (copied below):
          The forward leaning CG in "Si, Mi Amor" was amazing (link below). Best i've seen. Eve Sweet's face was close to camera (near my face) and her tits and penetration were still in clear view (around the 29:40 mark). Very intimate and amazing visually. Wow!
          https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/si-mi-amor-30156

          Same great forward CG camera position on another recent SLR release, "Giving Her Comfort" with Valentina Nappi. (around the 28:28 & 37:10 mark). I hope a minute or two of this forward CG will be in every SLR release going forward.
          https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/giving-her-comfort-30458

          Also another huge one. And I have seen more and more studios catch on to this... the straight up and down bouncing/riding on a cock if overdone gets boring quick. But gyrating/grinding on the cock in all cowgirl positions is a huge plus. Some girls are masterful at this as there are many ways to gyrate on that cock and when done right one can by hypnotized by a girls sensual /seductive movements while riding the guy. This is accentuated tenfold when the girl is at a realistic viewing distance from the actor.

          ***As a last bonus suggestion and I know this isnt exactly an angle/distance optimization per se but man I think a HUGE game changer in customer experience with the handy would be greatly enhanced if you had a slow stroke of the handy during intros that could either be synced with the opening intro misic and/or a slow building 'jerk off' stroke after opening intros to keep viewers at 'full attention ' during the beginning of the scene. These should be non full strokes (maybe a quarter stroke length building up no more than 50% and at a slower pace) . I love watching the 'well hello baby' opener and plot building but I find myself sometimes having to fast forward through because by the time the initial girl cock touching action takes place I am at half mast or less (especially on the back end of mutliple cup sessions).

            Mkramer1974 You nailed it! Your comment is very well thought out.

            Agree 100% with one exception: I do also enjoy cowgirl going straight up and down! I find that to be the best position for a clear view of both the face and the upper body.

              Twisted I thought the doggy was a little too close but the mish and blowjob were absolutely perfect. If we could have that scale and distance in every video then I think I would die of pure bliss.

              dango789

              Dango some is ok just not a fan when it is overdone. I will say Up and down during SQUATTING cowgirl is absolutely amazing. Feels like a girl doing keigels in that position. So immersive.

              siobhd

              Absolutely sio go for it! Im all for anything to get some of these ideas which could greatly advance the quality/immersion of VR out there!

              If I like 50% of a scene then I'm happy, so if my core favorites (HJ, BJ, CG / seated CG, grinding) are taken care of with correct distance for my perception it's great if the director experiments as everything else is a bonus. However, if the 50% of good stuff is not in long chunks of time but instead split up with position changes every 30 seconds then that drives me mad. When I see like 100 chapter markers in a scene my heart sinks. Navigating that shit is too much work.

              a year later

              Nobody has commented on this in a long time. Is the effort still alive? I would have mentioned the camera angle for blowjobs that is very common yet always terrible is where the male is standing and she is on her knees. It might be terrific in real life or in 2D, but in VR it sucks. I am not here to see the top of her scalp. Just doesn't get me going. Now, if you lay the male down on bed (laying on his back) with the camera on his stomach, and she is not on the bed, rather her feet are on the floor, or her knees are on the floor (depending on the height of the bed) she can comfortable position her face in his crotch. Everybody will be comfortable and the camera will be shooting the action "perfectly." We want to shoot her face and the dick going in her mouth right? Okay. Here is the blueprint.