Oculus GO won't charge / Advice for new headset?

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Vrsumo2017 You have to get s9 and down to use it now.

Nope. You just need to boot an old UI. I downgraded an S20 (second hand, local market) to a version of One UI 3.1. Not only is the battery life better but the whole experience has improved. Samsung downgraded their software because the old phones actually have better hardware than the post-2020 models.

Want the details on how to get that GearVR operational again? It's a fun side project if you have a free hour.

I agree that these devices tend to slip down the face and heat up too fast. To addressed the latter I just turn on airplane mode. Of course this means I can't stream, but with half a terabyte of local storage I can rely on that as an alternative.

Vrsumo2017

[deleted] I agree that these devices tend to slip down the face and heat up too fast

I was talking about the quest 2 slides down my face when it's hot in my room due to the summer...

But with my gearvr I never had that problem, it never over heated and the picture was always the same no matter where it was positioned on my face unlike a quest 2 with its sweet spot any minor adjustments to the head set you can get blurred vision, it's not bad or horrible just noticeable unlike my gear was.

Revert my phone back? Hell yeah I'd like know, I watched a few YouTube videos but they seemed confusing so I just ended up buying the quest 2.

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It's a little tricky but I'd be happy to help.

Here's the tutorial I used. It will allow you to reinstall all the VR software that Samsung was forced to remove due to the breakdown of the Meta deal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVFpzGdvLNM

Before starting you should install this. It allows you to execute shell commands from your computer and to remove all the bloatware.
https://technastic.com/android-sdk-platform-tools-download/

You will require Odin.
https://technastic.com/odin-download-samsung-latest-all-versions/

Here's where to go for the official firmware (look for the latest version of One UI 3.1 for your phone - or Android 11)
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/

You possibly want to install NetGuard Firewall to block some of the Facebook applications after everything is working. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.netguard

Location Services is a pretext for data theft and personalized advertising. You can turn it off after you've installed the software and got it working 😉 (Just turn it on when Meta occasionally requests it.)

The Youtube video explains everything step-by-step. It's an excellent video!

What's great about this is that you can use GearVR with the S10, S10+, S20, S20+ and other models (one of my friends has the 10 so I can guarantee that it works for that model too). GearVR was designed for the S7 to S9. With the ODIN trick you can use it with the current phones. And the models before S21 have ultra dense screens for great resolution. The processor on the S10 should be able to decode without glitches most of the films on SLR. (It has problems with the Original files for VRAllure and Wankz, but I've experienced no problems with the Originals from any other studio -- except StasyQ, which won't load due to codec incompatibility).

One more thing: You'll want to go into the Developer Options, after you've finished, to turn off auto-update. When this is done your phone won't download updates or insist on updates, but it will tell you that updates are available in Settings (which you can just ignore 😉 )

The "sweet spot" may have to do with the Fresnel lenses. GearVR uses aspheric lenses. Very high-end headset like Varjo use aspheric lenses. Mid-range systems like Quest 2 use Fresnel. Fresnel are lighter and better for gaming and have fewer distortions to the side of the lens. But they have more god-rays. Some people (like me) prefer aspheric lenses (I don't play VR games and use the system for watching films). High-end systems can adjust for the distortions from aspheric lenses.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/8ea207/comment/dxzkm5o/

Vrsumo2017

[deleted] cool, I'll take a look into it, last time I was looking at it it was confusing for me...

Thanks for taking the time to share the info, i really appreciate it 🤜🤛🥂👍

Idk why they stop the s10 from working with the gear, when I got my s10 the sales guy told me s10 and s10+ would be the last phones that will work with the gear, he never said they would take the gear from me 😒

I seen a video on YouTube this guy used his phone and a headset to play steam vr games, he was playing beat Saber too with hand tracking, just makes me mad cus these phones have potential to be great vr devices just like a quest.
I'm hoping the vr phones make a come back cuz it was very convenient for media previewing.

Only down fall bout a phone was you need to keep it scratch free and not to crack the screen or else you'd see them scratches in the headset, lol I took good care of mine 👍

BobbyBadass

spanker hoping the cambria has the same type of system and easy to use. i want to be able to READ...so that might be my choice

By read, do you mean read e-books using a book reader on your VR headset? That is something I want. Does Quest 2 provide that? There was no PDF or e-book reader on the Oculus GO at all. Opportunity missed IMO.

Thanks all for replies so far -- very helpful!

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BobbyBadass There was no PDF or e-book reader on the Oculus GO at all

Reading at that resolution would be a challenge.

Project Cambria has a major design flaw for our purposes visible from the prototypes. The battery is at the back of the user's head, which discourages use on a bed. Most casual users don't engage in VR at a desk. They watch films and stream. No one wants to rest their head on a battery.

One interesting headset that had potential, were it not for the price, was Vive Flow. It has no controller, unfortunately. But for its weight and portability the cut in resolution would be fine.
https://www.vive.com/ca/product/vive-flow/overview/

BobbyBadass

[deleted] Can you confirm that Quest 2 works just fine lying flat on a bed?

spanker

well that depresses me a bit

when i say READ? i'm only talking for about 15-20min. at a time... usually articles with numbers

on my Q1...i can adjust it on my head and kinda get a clear image some of the time

so maybe Q2 would be a major upgrade on the Q1 in that department... reading-wise and better-looking image for porn watching.

bummer about the cambria...had some high hopes and willing to lay out a 1000bucks if necessary for it

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BobbyBadass I don't know for Quest 2 but assume so because of the strap. Project Cambria has a battery at the back of the headset, so it appears to be designed for folks working at a desk.

https://www.laptopmag.com/features/project-cambria-everything-we-know

TemporaryName

BobbyBadass Yes, lying flat with the Quest 2 is no problem and there's specifically a button to recenter the image to where you are looking

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I had no difficulties with the tutorial, but the downgrade took an hour for the software and somewhat longer to change the settings of my apps.

There is one small regression. One UI 4 added support for NTFS. So if you need NTFS for work you have to use third-party software for that. It only blocks direct access to NTFS drives, so like memory-sticks formatted for NTFS.

Facebook / Meta killed GearVR because it got too good. I don't think many folks noted the differences between the early models and the later ones. The Controller is amazing, much better for media than Oculus 2 stuff (why see hands when you are watching films?) The phones also have fairly powerful and versatile processors.

Some folks said that Gear wasn't popular because it required the user to remove their phone from the case and have a clean screen. To me that isn't much of a concern.

I'm broke and probably would get an Oculus 2 if I were in America and did not have to contend with exchange rates and a low quality grid system as part of my country's infrastructure. But I have looked closely at Oculus 2 and find there to be about equal advantages to disadvantages for Oculus 2. The resolution is higher but the file security is much lower and the controllers are designed for gaming.

BobbyBadass

I got my Oculus GO working again. 😊

I think the heatwave killed it. I left it unplugged for two days then plugged it into my PC. Held down left volume control and power button for 30 seconds. Then it could boot up.

Weirdly, I did try all of that many times, but on this occasion it decided to wake up. Voodoo.

TemporaryName

Quest 2 is very good for low cost and no high end PC is needed

If money is not a factor, then you'd need a high end PC, but I'd recommend the Pimax 8KX until the Pimax 12K or Pimax Crystal come out

An HP Reverb G2 (PC needed) is a decent upgrade from the Quest 2, and may be among the sharpest for the time being (besides going for a thousands of dollar Varjo Aero which has a poor field of view), but Pimax 8KX beats it everywhere else in image quality besides a small sweet spot in the center where the G2 may have an advantage. The Pimax 8KX has a much larger field of view (it's adjustable through the Pimax Tool app) and it's more consistently clear beyond the sweet spot I would say.

Here's a comparison of the specs between the 3 headsets mentioned:
https://vr-compare.com/compare?h1=H0JXNCr3u4&h2=HdfjN_0UlPY&h3=pDTZ02PkT

The Pimax 8KX has about double the pixel count (4k; 3840x2160 per eye) over a much larger field of view, so it doesn't feel like you're so restricted or looking through a scuba mask.

The Pimax 12k will be as it sounds.. the 8KX on steroids, even more further ahead of the competition in field of view and clarity.. but expensive (near $3000), if that's an issue. Same with the Pimax Crystal, in that it will be expensive (above $2000).. a slightly above normal field of view.. but have a very sharp image (42PPD pixels per degree vs 23PPD for the G2, 18PPD for the Quest 2, or 12PPD for your Quest Go). No screen door effect.. much higher detail)

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If money is no object then why not go all out and get the Varjo Aero? Excepting the Varjo VR-3 and XR models that's the best headset on the market.

In terms of value for money Quest 2 was the best option until a couple of weeks ago. Now, maybe second-hand is the way to go for mid-range purchasers. I'd wait, though, for a few months to see Cambria and maybe pick up a secondhand Quest 2 as bargain when that appears.

TemporaryName

[deleted] "If money is no object then why not go all out and get the Varjo Aero?"

I mentioned why in my post.. in my opinion at the time.. Because of low FOV.. "(besides going for a thousands of dollar Varjo Aero which has a poor field of view)". That's what I see from the reviews and side by side comparisons, but maybe it's fine in person. I haven't tried it. I personally have a Quest 2, HP Reverb G2 and Pimax 8KX currently.

I do take back my recommendation for the Pimax 8KX after switching to the Reverb G2 again. The clarity is significantly better in my tests on the Reverb G2 and I much prefer the clarity over the field of view the Pimax 8KX offers in this use case. I'm sure the higher FOV is better for certain things, and I did like it at first, but picking between FOV and clarity, I'm sticking with clarity and will sell my Pimax 8KX eventually. So the Aero, as far as clarity, yes, is an option, but I would personally wait for the Pimax Crystal coming out relatively soon rather than get the Aero at this point.

At least claimed reasons being.. Higher PPD (pixels per degree.. 42 vs 35), slightly higher resolution, slightly better than normal FOV (without being so high that the pixels are too spread out and you sacrifice clarity), $100 less than the Aero while supposedly including controllers, Standalone (wireless capability like the Quest 2) with Wifi/WiGig streaming, high refresh rate (although I like that the G2 can be set to run at 60fps and doesn't waste energy and create unnecessary heat in this use case.. for video), built with lense swapping in mind (wider FOV option or prescription lenses), integrated tracking, passtrough, built in mic if that's important to anyone. We'll see how it fairs in reviews when it releases. The Pimax 12K is still on my radar if it comes with the rumored micro projection screen or whatever that would have it be as clear as the Crystal in the center sweet spot while still having the wide FOV, but the Crystal has moved up to the top of my watch list for now.

Vrsumo2017

doublevr something wrong with the site today or with the deo app? On Vr sites the videos loading slow or keep stopping, and slr is in web mode...??? Using a oculus 2 btw.

justsomedude101

Vrsumo2017 You might try the old modem/router "turn it off for 5 mins then back on again" trick, if you haven't already.

If that doesn't solve the issue, I would encourage you to submit your app logs ("how to" can be found in this thread), and you can also reach out to our support here. We might ask you to run a speed test/do some troubleshooting/etc., but that's easier to manage through the support tickets vs here.

Vrsumo2017

justsomedude101 I'll try that 👍

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I hear what you're saying, but the difference in clarity is impressive. Varjo is about a generation ahead of all other headsets for clarity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTwUTqyaU9I

FOV is indeed important. Pimax is your only option if that's the criteria. But it's difficult to wear that massive hardware.

spanker

watching some clips of what's coming down the PIKE

kinda getting a little excited

learning NEW things all the time

like eye-tracking? will help with the resolution of where your eyes are actually looking 🙂 i think i heard that correctly.

that excites me...there are some areas in the clips where the resolution is SHIT and it coulda been soo great to SEE IT better. hopefully, i am reading/hearing this correctly??

ibins

spanker like eye-tracking? will help with the resolution of where your eyes are actually looking 🙂 i think i heard that correctly.

Eyetracking would change exactly nothing for videos, and it is kinda meant to do the opposite for games and safe performance/power by only rendering the part you are looking at full resolution and reduce the resolution for everything else.

spanker that excites me...there are some areas in the clips where the resolution is SHIT and it coulda been soo great to SEE IT better. hopefully, i am reading/hearing this correctly??

Well no, eyetracking can not improve resolution, it only can reduce it, well actually the current Quest can do that already, but with eytracking it knows where to do it so you most likely do not notice it.

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