Personally, I like seeing a lot of variety in videos and I'm glad to see more and more folks filming and uploading content.
In my opinion, if we want VR180 videos to grow, we need more and more folks putting content out there and encourage them to do so.
I have seen some content creators get better over time with practice and experience.
Overall, I really like having a lot of new content out there. Even if I'm not into a vid, I'm certain there are others that are.
Adding more studios doesn't lower the amount of quality releases.
Some sandbox videos show up on the main page because they commissioned scripts and deserve to be highlighted.
What qualifies something as a sandbox scene?
Rakly3 No, but it does lower the proportion of quality releases. It also drowns the occasional quality release in the noise of all the dreck we're getting lately.
It seems like a bait & switch that's very common in the porn industry: Advertise your quantity, only to find out that most of it is of little quality. What's more problematic is that SLR won my subscription dollars by being the opposite of that: quantity and quality. Was that only because they were new, and needed to up the user base before cashing out and milking them with endless amature shaky-cam nonsense and "studios" that consist of one guy fucking his girlfriend over and over? Seems likely.
withy It seems like a bait & switch that's very common in the porn industry: Advertise your quantity, only to find out that most of it is of little quality. What's more problematic is that SLR won my subscription dollars by being the opposite of that: quantity and quality. Was that only because they were new, and needed to up the user base before cashing out and milking them with endless amature shaky-cam nonsense and "studios" that consist of one guy fucking his girlfriend over and over? Seems likely.
Has SLR stopped releasing scenes from the larger studios we've carried for years? Did I miss that memo?
You are making a bad-faith argument with literally no evidence or data and based entirely on assumptions (which are also unsupported). I'm generally an extremely laid back dude, but sorry - this frustrates me.
We encourage new studios to start releasing content in VR for a hundred different reasons, not the least of which is the fact that that's how we eventually land in a place where literally anyone can find the content they've been searching for and craving. You know all those posts here, in other forums, on reddit, etc. asking "Where is all the [insert niche here] content?!?" This is the starting point of that, and comes as the community & user base grows to a point where niche studios can actually support themselves. Not every studio can front the tens (or hundreds) of thousands of dollars it would cost to get their own fully operational website running.
But getting into VR production is far more expensive than 2d porn by an order of magnitude, so yes - most new or amateur studios don't have the same visual quality as SLR Originals or others. But as the market and demand for VR cameras grows, better quality and less expensive options will become available.
But as was mentioned earlier in this thread, you can hide unwanted scenes/studios on the website, and an update is coming to be able to do the same in-app: https://forum.sexlikereal.com/d/2547-new-feature-by-popular-demand-you-can-now-block-unwanted-content
There is so much passion in this thread. I love it!
justsomedude101 i completely get it, when I hear an outspoken user attack my product it’s hard not to let emotions run over, but some friendly advice. Take a beat, you definitely are too laid back to let emotions boil over. They are not attacking you directly they feel passionate about the product. This forum should be a welcome space to voice that passion, listen to your users and find out if this is a minority opinion or a majority problem.
Less than 6 months ago there was a lot of passion behind users wanting to hide studios/videos, but it seems once SLR got over the passion, and dug into the business case it seemed there was a lot of desire and value there, now it’s being touted as a great new feature (referred to in this thread)
The real question I haven’t seen anyone ask in this thread is “why?” Why do you think “all” the content is low quality? Can you provide a few examples of studios that you feel produce low quality content, and maybe a couple studio you like the content from within or outside of SLR? Maybe a new partnership could solve this issue. Do you really feel it’s all content, or just a few bad apples you have recently seen? Is there something specific that makes you feel the content was low quality? Maybe some additional coaching on proper camera mounts with producers you partner with could solve the problem. (I just got motion sick from the new tadpoles scripts…that sucked) Is there a feature that would make your experience better (better search, better filters, better sorting, more categories to search for, etc.). Finally there are multiple threads going on recently about what makes the VR experience great, and what breaks the immersion for users, and underserved niches all coupled with useful metrics gathered from most watched videos and categories published to producers (potentially for a fee) could help them improve the flow of more and better content.
diwanga and withy its ok to have a complaint but you may get better responses if you follow that up with a recommendation, suggestion, or solution.
Sperson That's fair. I should have also specified I was really going on a rant about the 2nd point made accusing SLR of planning a bait-and-switch. Less so about the qty vs quality argument, since everyone has different tastes.
Sperson my guess is the low quality studios are just trying to make a quick buck and dont really care much about the quality of their content
petermc I don't have a clear cut answer for that.
But in general sandbox are irregular upload studios and non-established studios that also don't have their own distribution network. Measured viewtime and user feedback plays a role. - But there are other cases too, for example new studios we "kickstart" and offer hosting & support for. And I don't mean just customer support. Rather support from us to them.
We have this link on pretty much all our SLR pages at the bottom: https://partners.sexlikereal.com/
There isn't a some predefined checklist for this, that I know of.
Perhaps this article (and its comments may illustrate the point better:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/20/business/media/netflix-streaming-subscription-model.html
When I first subscribed to Netflix, it was more of an aggregator, in that it produced little of its own content but offered me one-stop shopping where I could stream most any content available. As time has gone on, thugh, they have less outside content available from GOOD sources, and more of their own original programming (which is quite good). In my opinion, they should focus their effort there, and stop trying to reel people in with sheer quantity. When I type the name of a movie in search, i don't want "movies like X", I want "MOVIE X".
My experience over time with SLR has been somewhat similar. When I first subbed (and I have maintained a sub for the whole time), SLR was a way to fight "subscription fatigue". I didn't want to pirate, but I also didn't want to sub to 10 different studios to get the content I wanted. SLR was a great option, because I could get content from all the MAJOR studios (albeit sometimes a week or two after release) under one subscription price. Adding SLR Originals was an absolute bonus, as well as scripts. Over time, though, it seems to follow the Netflix model: there are fewer new releases from major studios (or fewer major studios, period), and a whole lot of TadPoleXXX, PS_Porn, etc. Again, when I search for a particular porn star, I typically want to see some content she shot for a big studio with a modern rig. I don't want to see "movie like X" where the same actress shot some scene with some low-budget studio in 2016, and I certainly don't want to see a bunch of low-quality, out of focus, shot with a go-pro-on-a-stick stuff. I'd rather see SLR focus on many more originals than waste money on the amateurish stuff.
I'm sorry if the bait-and-switch comment was offensive. Obviously, I don't know what your long term business model, intentions, or plans are. However, even here, you are shooting yourself in the foot. My evaluation and general tone comes from watching that doublevr guy just absolutely crap on people in discussions. It is well documented that his response to suggestions or criticism is universally "Fuck off if you don't like it, we do what we want, and we don't want your business anyway." Additionally, he has made comments about wanting to be the "Netflix of porn" (see above for why that is a bad idea), and other actions such as attempting to deprecate DLNA and screwing up local script use really makes it seem as though the goal is to lock us into your eco-system and products, by force or coercion if necessary. All of which is a shame, because your technical innovation, originals, scripting, and most other customer-faced communication is top-notch.
I, for one, would be much happier if SLR released 3x as many originals and more scripts, and had far less random amateurs. One more metaphor? Don't end up like that one restaurant that makes the best burgers in town, but then thinks they have to compete with everyone and adds gyros, pho, chinese food, breakfast, pies, and borscht to their menu - all while the quality of their burgers decreases. You can't be all things to everyone.
withy Thanks for taking the time to describe what you're thinking with a bit more detail, and I'm sorry that I lost my cool a bit.
I can very much appreciate what you're saying, and believe me when I say that I'm right there with you and would love to see 3x (or 10x) as many SLR Originals scenes come out + more scripts.
But I do also want to point out that while we have definitely picked up more small/new/amateur studios (and I totally get that many of them will not be for everyone), the content that's being released from larger & more established studios is still as consistent as ever. Even if it may not seem that way since they make up a smaller portion of the total scenes now vs the proportion that they used to.
RealJam had 12 releases in the last month here on SLR. 10 from VRBangers. VirtualRealPorn had 11 scenes released. 7 scenes from SexBabesVR. And I could go on and on. But go ahead and take a look at each of these sites (or the sites of any of the other larger studios I didn't mention) and you'll see that while the scenes might be released on SLR a week or up to a few months behind their original release on the main studio site: we still have them all. I mean really - go check their sites and fact check me on this, because I would love for you to see that these scenes are still coming out on SLR as regularly as ever, and that (aside from a very select few that we could not carry for compliance issues) we have them all, just obviously a bit delayed.
withy When I first subscribed to Netflix, it was more of an aggregator, in that it produced little of its own content but offered me one-stop shopping where I could stream most any content available. As time has gone on, thugh, they have less outside content available from GOOD sources,
But SLR IS an aggregator.
We don't decide what's good or not. all studios and scenes have people who like it. We also give studios the opportunity to grow and improve which they would not be able to do without a platform like SLR.
withy Over time, though, it seems to follow the Netflix model: there are fewer new releases from major studios (or fewer major studios, period),
This is just false and what I wanted to point out in my earlier reply. There are NOT less "good" releases. I would even argue the opposite. Proportionally it may seem this way, but not quantitative.
The quotes I took also, to a degree, contradict each other.
Outside sources, good.
SLR adds more outside sources, but now it's bad.
@withy How does a Follow studio feature sound like? With a page that only shows you the scenes and new releases of studios you selected. Thinking of it almost makes it seem strange we don't have this yet.
sounds better than the feature to hide content coz its a lot less work for me to add the couple of studios that i do want to watch compared to hiding the mountains of content that i dont want to watch
spacepirate I've put the idea forward.
Tadpolexxxstudio has made some improvements in most recent vids and by the comments and views many viewers are enjoying our improvements. We use rigs now for POV and have some POV vids scripts. Therefore to all the ones they hid our studios you are may be missing out. Thanks to everyone who supports and give respectful feedback.
Tadpolexxxstudio had another look at your vids... you getting some better girls now but honestly even if your vids had the best girls and 10x better quality than anyone else i think i still wouldnt watch them... theyre just not for me
So what's up with the quality of SLR nowadays? This thread and all the other countless ones about the same topic, indicate that this was always brought up by the community. But looking at SLR now in 2024 (technically 2025), the above mentioned problems only got drastically worse.
xeddin1 I'm not trying to bash SLR but isn't the whole point of a forum to talk about what is going on at SLR?
xeddin1 What is the actual problem you are seeing?
I think he means the exactly what has been said before on here except that as he put it "the above mentioned problems only got drastically worse."
I didn't know that he needed to give recommendations. A lot of times as @chmod4000 said there have been countless times people give recommendations all over this forum. A lot of times people are told to stop talking about it.
I too wish SLR would listen to what everybody on here says they are looking for in good VR. If the directors would do that instead of just going out and filming what they personally want to do then people wouldn't write on this thread.
@Vrsumo2017 gives screenshots of positions. people write how to better film, there is a whole thread on scene suggestions. But I really don't see any change from any of it.
chmod4000 If you want your voice to be heard, it would be greatly appreciated if you could be more specific. Please elaborate on the quality you’re referring to and how you perceive it. Feel free to frame your questions for the directors—they will be happy to respond if your inquiries are clear and reasonable.
