DeoVR + Haptics frustration

quest2mfp

sogman
I had the following usage pattern that triggered the limit almost always:

Searching for a video with the right script you can hit the limit in just 10 to 15 minutes. I don't think their limit accounts for such usage pattern.

If you monitor this pattern, it will sure look like someone is maybe downloading/pirating scripts.

sogman

quest2mfp I guess that makese sense, not exactly what I was asking but thanks. No Im just plainly asking: if I put on my headset today, and go to SLR... and start to watch a video.. will it turn off in 15 minutes? is that what your saying? or turn off after 15 videos? or stop after 15 scripts have played? see what Im asking? Your talk about a "15 minute limit" is kinda scattered and not direct in what it applies to, Ive read a few of your comments. Not trying to be rude, im trying to understand you, cause this seems to be a subject that has gotten your attention

netcat

quest2mfp Yep, that's my usage pattern too. But I can't even get to the point of hitting the limit due to OSR devices being broken by the updates.
@sogman to answer your question MFP is a popular app used by OSR users (OSR2, SR6, SSR devices). It has several really cool capabilities like multi axis interpolation (basically the toy moves side to side and rotates, not just up and down), and automatic speed limiting (so if you have watch a video where the pace is too fast, it can correct for that).
https://www.patreon.com/yoooi

SLR cut off support for this app intentionally in order to 'secure scripting'. This is intended to make it harder to pirate SLR's AI generated scripts - though it's debatable whether this problem actually exists.

I can certainly share more thoughts on this, for instance that given how fast this space is evolving, and the availability of off the shelf pre-trained vision models, script piracy is moot. The tech to build AI scripts will only get easier and easier for others to acquire. ... Investing resources into this, cannibalizing features that work well, and screwing over your most loyal users to protect tech that will quickly be overtaken, is shortsighted.
But from seeing SLR's response here, I suspect we're wasting our time. I worry SLR will not do the right thing here. OSR users are in the minority, so this isn't viewed as a priority.

I will restate what I said earlier - as a life subscriber, this is a slap in the face. SLR used to take pride in doing the right thing for life membership holders.... This is not it.

sogman

netcat to answer your question MFP is a popular app used by OSR users (OSR2, SR6, SSR devices). It has several really cool capabilities like multi axis interpolation (basically the toy moves side to side and rotates, not just up and down), and automatic speed limiting (so if you have watch a video where the pace is too fast, it can correct for that).

Thanks for your reply... but maybe were all talking past eachother. Seems you are ONLY referring to scripts and some OSR whatever the hell that is Multi axsis thing. I use the handy. It goes up and down. Does this discussion pertain to me, or no? Thanks..

quest2mfp

netcat I currently also can't use my device, and that was not what I signed up for. But if you're a corner case that is acceptable to their logic somehow.

I think it's not long before the pre-trained models are available for scripts, and 5 to 10 years down the line you just describe a scene that you want and it's all AI generated.

Has anyone seen SLR scripts in the wild? Does the script piracy problem actually exists, or is it just part a bigger plan for after the release of their own toy. If we are just less than 0.1% of the toy base, what would a pirate user base be 0.00001%?

Maybe the goal is just end to end encryption alas total control.

netcat

sogman Nope, handy wouldn't be affected by MFP or dropped OSR support.

sogman

netcat ok so to be clear, OP is talking about something related to "scripts" and I do have a script subscription on SLR... but this does not effect me; what he is talking about. Correct? He and you are only referring to some sort of multiaxis device, is that right?

netcat

sogman It's hard to say - you'll have to try it and see. While you won't be affected by MFP support dropped, you may still run into the new script limits. It's hard to say until you test it out.

quest2mfp

sogman You are probably fine, just if it stops working in a session, after a few scripts, I could be the scripts limit, and then it's nice to have some local files to finish the session. :-)

The actual limit is unknown and a closely guarded secret.

cowdoy

Yeah, feels like it's setting it up so it's devices they're partnered with and their own future device. I get it, kinda don't... I tried their T Code stuff once, it NERF'd my SR6 and put OSR2 software on it. I don't trust them on their software front now. What if they make a rip of their own version of MFP? Buy it from Yooooi, or have him make something for them. If they're being honest and it's about script piracy and not device exclusivity.

quest2mfp

cowdoy The honest part made me smile....

Could well be that in the near future toy manufacturers need to pay for support on SLR, that would need a secure link so that it can't be bypassed.

Reeses

cowdoy whoa, see alexSLR keeps asking if I've updated the software on my SR6 with their t-code stuff. You say this killed your SR6? Two things have kept me from updating my sr6,
A: I can't seem to link my quest 3 to my PC, it says my graphics chip is not blah blah blah on meta vr link.
B: everything SLR seems to break everytime they make an update, didn't want my SR6 dead and unable to play local content via MFP due to their software/updates/constant issues that they seem to create.

Then there's their shitty set of instructions on slr.com: I'll post my thoughts on the steps inside of "<>"
"Direct connect your OSR2/SR6 toy

1 - Launch the DeoVR app. Go to www.sexlikereal.com into the browser and log in. <launch deo on what, my quest, my pc, my refrigerator?>
2 - Click the settings cog icon -> Go to the 'Haptics' Tab -> Toggle the 'TCode (OSR)' option ON <once again, what device is this step completed on? Laptop? Headset? Dishwasher?>
4 - Connect your OSR Toy via USB to your PC
<wait, where is step 3? Wtf is my computer doing? Do I open a program? Do I open my browser? No? Just... windows home screen, plug in SR6 to usb?>
5 - Thats it! Now Play any sex toy supported video and enjoy next level immersion!"
<uh huh... thats it they say>

netcat

quest2mfp @cowdoy

I'm not quite ready to make that leap. I don't think this is about device exclusivity and I highly doubt that SLR would try to force other toy makers off their platform at scale. It's not inline with past actions taken by SLR nor is it inline with the philosophy under which they operate.

Don't get me wrong - we are really getting screwed over by the MFP block. It's bad for the consumers, and it's bad for innovation. And it's also bad for SLR's business long term as it will open doors for competitors to step in.

doublevr

quest2mfp you can't come up with even more stupid speculations. Can you?

cowdoy

Yeah, admittedly I was pot stirring and being a little stinker too.

I'm sure the transition just effects us, we're a small drop in the sea of Robotic Dick Yankers.

Nos488

Are we going to see the amount of scripts we can stream in a day increase with the change of increasing script security.

Anon1379

doublevr How about you focus on fixing your broken website instead of trying to insult your customers?? People with OSR2 STILL can't even use the service they pay for. What are you doing??

Reeses

doublevr you guys breaking the way we connect our osr devices has real world consequences, sir.

I had to resort to downloading tinder.

I've gone on dates with real women. Do you know how terrible that is? They're horrible people, sir, this is 2025, not 2004, they're not fun to be around.

Let's look at the tech timeline. GearVr comes out, 4k videos exist, holy sht never knew my favorite star looked like THAT, wow, 2d doesn't do her justice!

Quest 2 arrived, 6k videos exist, fleshlight launch was a POS and Kirroo Keon isn't much better, but buying a new Keon every year is still cheaper than 2 dates to longhorn steakhouse, and it beats beating it manually, and beats your standard issue Tiffany from circle K that just lays there.

Quest 3 arrives, holy sht Charlotte Sartre taking it up the bum in 8k, SR6 running off L0 (up/down), pitch, roll, rotation, forward/backwards, left/right being randomized with a bias towards script on L0? At this point, the SR6 running a script from a star who knows what she is doing is in the top 4 or 5 sexual experiences that I've had with real women.

That is to say, out of the 70+ real bodies I've accrued 2004-2025, the SR6 is BETTER at it than 66 some odd REAL women. It won't sleep with my neighbor, it won't bring home a disease, it won't run up my debit card...

But you guys, sir, have made me download tinder again... I thought we were past all this, and well on our way to "Subservient" starring megan fox style sex robots... but in the name of... what? Piracy control? We've dashed all those dreams.

Ask yourself sir, 20, 30 years from now, when you're an old timer, is that what you want to look back on and see? "Ah yes, 2025... we made thousands of men stop paying us and go find real women that they can kind of tolerate in exchange for subpar sex, twas a good year.."

quest2mfp

Anon1379 Going over the weekend this almost stopped working 2 weeks ago, for a supported device.
How about that for a monthly subscription, 50% down the drain.

andman24

quest2mfp I understand your frustration, I've had the thought of canceling my subscription many times, but my problem was more that I wanted to relax after a busy week, I watch a few videos and when I found the right one, my toy just stopped working, what frustration, the script limit was reached again.

andman24

I can imagine that all MFP users are extremely annoyed in connection with OSR toys, and for this reason I believe that SLR will find a solution that will satisfy everyone. I think that SLR also doesn't want to lose long-time subscribers, but it can also become a problem that scares away new subscribers, and it can also negatively impact sales of their new product Melody.

andman24

Piracy is a big problem, but other solutions must be found. Users and subscribers may not be penalized or denied resolution. The customer is king and that's why SLR finds a solution that satisfies everyone. I'm sure of that.

cowdoy

I think an easy solution for SR6/OSR2 users could be if it was just something online. Something like Ayva Stroker for example. They could straight up put it on SLR's site. Plug the device into the computer, go on SLR, connect, have a basic interface and a randomizer for axises. I honestly hoped SLR would drop something like that for SR6 and OSR users. The fact they even have support is awesome. They're the only company acknowledging these devices exist lmfao. I'm not trying to be a stickler, the current stuff for T Code devices just isn't that good. I think it'd be easy to improve.

I get we're a small user base so I don't know if they have time or give a shit, would be super cool of them though.

@doublevr what do you think of that idea?

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