Missing thumbnail contact sheets

doublevr > "Moving it to ai so you can expect some hottest frames and intelligence"

First off, thanks for listening to our feedback! Glad this feature is returning.

AI powered contact sheets sound like a great idea, let's be honest, a fixed timestamp often results in extreme repetition, and often misses some of the most unique moments. HOWEVER I get the argument others are making against it.

Could you perhaps generate both? And let people use whichever they like? If you're already generating one, we're talking about a trivial amount of compute/storage to generate the other.

I have never used contact sheets. I don't even know how to find them.
I always just clicked on the video so it would start playing and then skip forward to see how things changed. Are contact sheets a lot better than this method?
Also if it is a cost thing and people seem to like and use the contact sheet then I can think of lots of things SLR does that surely cost way more but I bet nobody uses. How much is SLR investing into CGI porn? How about server space for flat that nobody asked for.
I just want what made SLR good 4 or 5 years ago. All the things they had then, like well made good 3somes. (all the time not just 1 every 3 months).

rerun119 > "I don't even know how to find them."

On the 'photos' tab, right below the four standard sample photos, there used to be a button called 'all photos' (or something?), if you clicked on that it would take you to the contact sheet. VERY useful when you want to quickly browse a scene.

I'm sure it saves SLR way more bandwidth than it costs to generate/serve, so it's a good thing for everyone that they are bringing it back.

fuccaneer it's very irregular to check things like this in a global scale. Content consumption is super fast pacing.
We have to squeeze in the most of engagement in the shortest form.
Right now we are actively exploring transition to the new formats and UI.

doublevr it's very irregular to check things like this in a global scale. Content consumption is super fast pacing.

This is the forum. People in the forum spend hours on watching content. They care about quality. They write hundreds or thousands of forum posts about it. And they look at contact sheets. All the arguments referring to what 'fast-paced' regular users grabbing their headsets once a week for a quick wank might need to be happy do not convince forum users.

Hairsational That's really surprising. Have you never gone to a scene page on the website and clicked the buttons

No, not that I remember. I do want to see what the scene is going to look like so I would start playing the scene and just keep skipping forward to see what it will look like.
I'm not saying this is a better way to do it but if they don't bring back the sheet thingy then you can always do it this way.

rerun119 Yes, aware. That's how everyone has to do it with other sites after all.

The contact sheet is absolutely the better way though because it takes 2 seconds. Skipping through the video takes a lot longer and you end up with crap videos in your watch history and probably feeding into recommendations.

the latest thing we are discussing is extracting AI enhanced frames to give you a perfect idea of content, angles, positions, etc so you don't need contact sheets at all.
instead of 4 random photos currently uploaded and random CS timecodes you will get a perfect series of the hottest moments across timecodes.

Sigh..

fuccaneer This is a great walkthrough of exactly why I'd expect the sheet to be a core feature that is just never questioned. I'm simply baffled that we got to the point where you had to tell that story in the first place - this process is something people have been doing for decades when deciding what media to favorite/download/add-to-playlist/etc. If the company did not understand this in the first place, are they aliens? Still attempting to pin down how exactly the homo sapiens neurology is structured? This feels like if a grocery store stopped selling food and someone had to explain to them how humans require ingesting edible nutrients in order to survive.

doublevr ok the turtles go deeper than I thought. They aren't aliens themselves, but rather AI created by aliens, slowly figuring out how to convert this planet to AI. Next up: volume, seek bar, and zoom controls will be removed, replaced by DILDY the personified sextoy, your automated video assistant who controls everything for you. I'm trying to wrap my head around how adding another AI process to get screengrabs saves resources compared to a deterministic slicing of the video, which erniescar69 can do in seconds.

erniescar69 How is SLR currently creating contact sheets if it "takes significant rendering time and slows release process"?

Maybe something bizarre like doing an entire transcode but just setting the output fps to 0.01 ? Or perhaps some intern was put on that duty while having to also prototype DILDY. Each sheet has been a pain: "ok DILDY, now jump to 1/48th of the way through the video and take the first screenshot" - "sure thing boss, and I've uploaded the screenshot to your Facebook too!" - "NO DILDY stop, delete that!" - "sure thing boss, I've just deleted every contact sheet for all videos sitewide. Also your mother has commented on your recent Facebook post!"

Recently, I explored other sites to see how they compare to SLS. I actually subscribed to one before I realized that they didn't have contact sheets . . . . I thought "how stupid". Needless to say, I canceled and remained here. I'm honestly now waiting to see how they "resolve" this issue to determine my next year subscription. Hooping they do the right thing here :-)