There is no magic, lowering the bitrate will increase artifacts and smooth the image even in AV1.
ARPorn with similary content passthrough of SLR is at 75 mb/s in 10bits color with an acceptable file sizes about 20 gb.
Customers complained a few months ago and they increased their bitrate from 35 to 75 mb/s and switched to 10-bit color.
Masters are great but I can do without them if the birate is 60/70, This should be a basic quality here without paying extra monthly subscription price elsewhere just to have one video.

Removal of Master files and high bitrate download options from subscriptions are a deal breaker for me.
I love the SLRO productions but low bitrate download options degrades the quality too much for me.

It doesn't make sense for me to stay subscribed anymore if I can't enjoy the content. I won't pay extra per video, you can slightly increase the subscription price if required.😢

Like I said in other post, for me its the tip of the water in terms of greediness. For much examples or words we use and present it just doesnt matter.

You have a limit for downloading videos, a limit for downloading scripts (even AI generated!) and now you take us off the high bitrate of your videos. Its one thing to take of the high bitrate of other studios... now from you own studio doesnt make any sense for my head. Even makes less sense if you are a long time subscriber... Other sites make limits but for monthly subscribers... why dont you go this way and penalise only with these limits with montlhy subscribers? Or just raise a little bit the yearly subscription Just dont get the point besides grediness.

I most certainly wont spend any more money here with this kind of bahaviour.

    mixbets78 Like I said in other post, for me its the tip of the water in terms of greediness. For much examples or words we use and present it just doesnt matter.

    You have a limit for downloading videos, a limit for downloading scripts (even AI generated!) and now you take us off the high bitrate of your videos. Its one thing to take of the high bitrate of other studios... now from you own studio doesnt make any sense for my head. Even makes less sense if you are a long time subscriber... Other sites make limits but for monthly subscribers... why dont you go this way and penalise only with these limits with montlhy subscribers? Or just raise a little bit the yearly subscription Just dont get the point besides grediness.

    I most certainly wont spend any more money here with this kind of bahaviour.

    It's a bad time to upset customers with the stock market crash due to tariff changes - this is gonna be massive and cost consumers heavily in the whole world, so luxury items and subscriptions are gonna be the first to go.

    Who knows how this is gonna play out, but economically this is gonna be huge

    Again, a bit of friendly advice to SLR, maybe hold off changes until you the dust settles... or just chill and have a nice bottle of wine 🙂

      I think they're growing too fast, with too many technological advances that are driving up costs significantly, and they're trying to save money on network transfers. But this increasingly restrictive policy is sending a bad feeling to customers. If they feel the subscription doesn't cover the costs, then it should be increased subscriptions or offered different subscription packages, but not start reducing quality or charging for it in rather expensive extras. Personally, I won't be renewing my annual subscription.

        boudaba I think they're growing too fast, with too many technological advances that are driving up costs significantly, and they're trying to save money on network transfers. But this increasingly restrictive policy is sending a bad feeling to customers. If they feel the subscription doesn't cover the costs, then it should be increased or offered different packages, but not start reducing quality or charging for it in rather expensive extras. Personally, I won't be renewing my annual subscription.

        Similar to the stock market SLR are creating uncertainty as to what is actually happening regarding upcoming changes to their subs and this uncertainty has proven to be disastrous.

        Bearing in mind it is only us on these forums that undertstand the consequences of what has so far been proposed - The majority of customers don't even know yet - I honestly don't think SLR knows where there is going and just throws comments out their to see what sticks, but it's good entertainment and it's the weekend 🙂

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          What's the point in having 8K if you're going to blur out all the detail with shitty encoding?

          boudaba Maybe they need room on their servers without increasing cost for all that 2D nobody wants. Maybe they just wanna mess with their customers again. Who knows, seems so irrational to mess with one of the most important factors for a VR site: video quality.

              fenderwq If that was the case to have room in the servers just take these files from the servers of producer AQUA... Now this is excessive and shouldn't be allowed... who wants a 248 gigas video? This must be 300 mb high bitrate... I think it's not even playable on quest... it just useless...

              https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/umi-oikawa-ejaculation-management-by-office-lady-in-pantyhose-52024?tab=downloads

                  mixbets78 If that was the case to have room in the servers just take these files from the servers of producer AQUA... Now this is excessive and shouldn't be allowed... who wants a 248 gigas video? This must be 300 mb high bitrate... I think it's not even playable on quest... it just useless...

                  https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/umi-oikawa-ejaculation-management-by-office-lady-in-pantyhose-52024?tab=downloads

                  Holy feck... I was anticipating that the next upgrade to 12k may take original files to over 100gb , which understandbly is reason to cut down on these files due to server space.

                  But 250gb for 8k is just silly, especially for JAV as most don't even have download options and i can't see anyone downloading this - That's the size of a small hard drive 🙂

                  ... which makes me think, what about putting a limit on the size of 'Orginal Files' from Studios as a space saver ? which although not perfect - maybe a happy medium ? 50 Gb ?

                    Basically having 60/70 mbits (30/40gb per file) would be good and it is not necessary to have videos longer than an hour. Other producers do it like that and everyone is happy.

                    It's a tricky one as i won't buy a scene under an hour long ! I want value for money and more of a chance that a position i like is included and not rushed

                    ...Damn why can't we just stay as we are ? I don't care about AV1 or upcoming changes - I think everybody was happy and content !

                    The reality is anything i like turns to shit

                    Well one solution I could personally live with is just limit either the amount of HBR downloads per month per client (I guess I could live with 2 for example). Or limit the amount of GB downloaded per month per client, so also low bitrate downloads add up. I guess I could live with either of those. But paying $7 PPV, while I already paid for a subscription, nah, makes no sense, just pisses me off and I won't spend a dime extra.

                    But honestly, I suspect this is not about saving costs, this is about trying to get extra money out of the subscribers, having us pay for stuff we thought we already paid for.

                      harigeharry But honestly, I suspect this is not about saving costs, this is about trying to get extra money out of the subscribers, having us pay for stuff we thought we already paid for.

                      You're probably right, unfortunately the more i feel coerced into paying for something, the more i back away.

                      So many subs i have cancelled due to c,hange of service - I understand this is a business plan to lure customers in and to fuck them over slowly - but i think the overall general customers are getting wise to it and won't take that shit anymore.

                      ...or maybe i'm just more intelligent than most 🙂

                        Nothing but absolutely misplaced greed to squeeze every penny they can out of you and constantly give you less and less for it. AV1 is not that much of a smaller file size, so no significant savings there, also at the same time they decide to host flat 2D content, so any minimal savings in space are now wasted on useless 2D content, so that doesnt make sense. So now if you want to download higher bitrate you will have to pay more???? So ultimately that is what all of this was about, as I have been saying for months, yes they do prioritize streaming, you know damn well they are harvesting user data and they can only do so if everyone is streaming, not downloading and watching offline. And along those same lines stricter download limits over time and now complete removal of high bitrate downloads unless you pay extra per scene? Are you mad?

                          Download all your content while you can! Pretty soon all other studios will have the same ridiculous "MAX" download options only and they will make you pay if you want to get high bitrate option. It may be too late for the new SLR content but all other studios seem to still have their high bitrate options still available. If you dont think these greedy people ultimately will want you to only have streaming rights you are out of your mind, they just know they cant enforce that at this point without losing a significant amount of subscribers, but they are taking you there one step at a time and soon enough they will be doing the same thing with porn that they gaming industry does where you dont own crap and are only paying for a license to use the material. Download EVERYTHING

                          Yes people are inherently stupid and will accept anything they are told up to a certain point.

                          I think VR users tend to have a higher intelligence due to the nature of the tech involved even if it is porn - But we all have a limit of tolerance !

                          'Falling down' is a great movie

                          mixbets78 You have a limit for downloading videos, a limit for downloading scripts (even AI generated!) and now you take us off the high bitrate of your videos.

                          Apparently, there is already a "fair use" cap on script streaming (kilobytes). You do the math for what comes next.