xeddin1 Great production. But please, the issue is not the massive cock it’s the lighting and the small spaced room.
The PornoVerse (pics from set and other stuff)
Not everyone is average, so using smaller ones are not more realistic for everyone. I'm usually paying more attention to the girls kind of like I did when I watched 2D porn, but as mentioned above the bigger ones have always been a hallmark of the porn industry and I've actually been wondering for a while why they were using mostly average ones in the same POV type scenes over and over again, nice to see something different, and saying not to use them is like saying if you're going to make a VR soccer game/scene/whatever that average dudes off the couch or out of the pub would be more realistic to use then people with above average skills and traits in soccer.
Man this big dick vs small dick argument is a tough one.
I can understand the argument that smaller dicks are more common for the average joe, but i really like watching these girls get dicked down by big dicks.
The scenes i've enjoyed the most over the years are the ones where the girls are getting pounded and their legs start shaking or their eyes roll back when they start hitting the back walls and they completely lose control. we'll never know for sure if that's their real reaction or just good acting, but if they did that on a 5 inch penis i think it would remove all doubt that it's fake, at least for me.
I hope you can get this male talent to shoot with a size queen some time, that would be fun to watch.
I can suspend disbelief enough in my VR fantasies when a stuntcock outsizes me by an order of magnitude, but when it becomes a challenge for the actress to handle it in her mouth, thats just off-putting. Other orifices can be a mixed bag, but if the actress spends the entire scene balancing on top of it like a flagpole-sitter or when the look of discomfort exceeds even the porn-fakery--well thats not a fetish I'm into. In this scene it wasnt terrible, but I had to skip the majority of the headlick BJ because The Handy interpretation was boring and I bailed after the struggle of Isabelle fighting to stuff it into her fat pussy.
HughMungus but i really like watching these girls get dicked down by big dicks.
Yes bro! And when they can take it Balls deep omg 
, and they take it deep like they really like it, that or they really good at acting, but hell yeah bro! 
xeddin1 "averaged sized dick is the best"
HughMungus i really like watching these girls get dicked down by big dicks.
I can understand the watching part. Since most of us started by watching 2d porn. I get that people are used to watching big dicks because I guess that looked better on a screen. If you are getting off by voyeurism then it's important that you can see everything.
Maybe giant dicks are best used for non-pov. That way you can see everything.
rerun119 I think i like it mostly because i have a large penis so it feels more realistic. Luckily i'm pretty well represented in VR porn already, i think John Strong and Nathan Bronson are the smallest we really see in VR and i think they are both still technically above average in size.
I'm not saying they shouldn't get smaller male talent for some scenes, it's only fair that everyone feels represented. I only commented because i don't want smaller to somehow become the new standard for purely selfish reasons and there were a number of comments saying they wanted smaller and the director was agreeing with them.
HughMungus VR or not, Nathan Bronson would have to be one of the smallest dicked mainstream pornstars around. He does well for his size, but I don't think there is really anyone else to chose from if people want smaller. The talent agencies don't work with smaller guys.
I like porn dicks in porn. I’m not into absolute monster cocks but I don’t want some five incher either just because it’s the same size as some pencil dick guys watching at home. If you want to see your own dick, I assume you can do that in passthrough scenes. I want to see pornstars fucking like pornstars.
It’s ridiculous watching all those John Strong videos with all these girls saying “oh my god, it’s huge” when it’s clearly average at best.
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Personally i like to see monsters cocks with a few caveats !
For blowjobs the bigger the better as there is nothing better than seeing a pretty girl sucking on a massive cock, grabbing it with two hands and licking all the way up the shaft etc and the balls as they can't really hurt themselves apart from a little lock jaw.
Again i love to see pretty girls taking massive cocks in their pussies or ass, however, this is very important i never ever wanna see the girls not enyoying it or looking in genuine pain, the girls have to be able to take a big dick and not hurt themselves for the sake a scene - I'm genuinely mean it, but if the girls are built to take bigs cocks then i love to watch.
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Since this seems like the place to talk about VRhythm's first scene, I'll add my feedback here...
What I liked
- I watched the scene this weekend. It had some good moments. My favorite actually being around the 29-31 min mark, where both women came up close to the camera and performed some great dirty talk right in my face. However, they should have continued to wank him off during this part. Not just because it will make the scene that much hotter, but for scripts/handy sake... gotta keep the stroking...
- I thought the cast was fine. Typically not my personal taste, but they gave good performances, and had some nice thic bodies. I can't really complain about this.
- The room itself, I'm actually okay with dorm room, small room type setups. It makes the scene more grounded, and more realistic. It's a nice change up from the modern, often lifeless, model-homes in other scenes.
- Even the lighting was fine. I like uneven realistic light personally, for the same reasons mentioned above.
What I didn't like
- The focus was poor throughout the whole scene. I imagine you see this now, and will make sure to address this in future scenes. Shit happens, it's understandable. Your first scene. Just make sure to get the focus right the next time.
- Regarding the camera positions... man... this is where I think it is borderline inexcusable. I know you are very Swallowed-centric with your PMVs, but Swallowed has some of the worst camera positions and angles out there. And it's a shame this may have been your reference. Please, don't use Swallowed as your reference. Study SLROriginals (Nash, VRFanservice) for good reference points. The camera position in this scene is so far off, it's almost unbelievable. The camera is way too forward AND way too high. For the laying down position, it was like putting my head 15" above my stomach... And during the standing section, it was total "giraffe cam". My head was like 2 feet away from my body... It's not even remotely close to how things should look in a proper POV VR scene.
- Position the camera as close to the male actor's face as possible. And then from there, pull back parallel to his face (along his forehead) even a few more inches so the camera has a bit more FOV and space for the women to lean forward without getting their head chopped off. Tilt the camera slightly upwards in laying down (slightly downwards in standing up), and have it so the top of the male shoulders are JUST out of frame, but the male nipples are comfortably in frame. If you only see the guy's bellybutton (like in this scene), then it is way way off.
- And finally, one thing I found very disappointing, direction/action wise is what you said you were going to commit to here:
xeddin1 In terms of multiple women licking everywhere, constant CONSTANT dirty talking, all out slut / intense - yes that is the goal.
- There was hardly any of this in the scene, aside from that one dirty talk section I mentioned. But overall, it was not "Pornoverse" intense, and it was not close up. And there was absolutely no licking... something that makes multigirl scenes way hotter. Granted, the male nipples weren't even in view, so if you had male nipple licking (I wish you would), then it would have been pointless. But fix the camera angle, have more licking, kissing, slobbering, tongue-action, slutty-actions like shoving their tits/ass CLOSE and into the camera, from all sides at the same time, and really ramp up this "Pornoverse" vibe, then you will start having some gold. Don't have the action just in front like 2d porn. have the women "attack" the camera from all sides. Make it feel like they are around me and on top of me, not just in front me.
All that being said, best of luck for you in future scenes. And congrats on your first.
g2kbuffetboy
The camera work being terrible is not lost on me. I assure you, it was not by choice. I do have eyes, im not blind. You have some good notes for how camera angles can be improved. That being said we did not have a lot of space in the room.
There was constant dirty talking throughout, so unsure what you mean. I did mention to lick him, but it was a 13 hour shoot and I wasn't going to cut again (filmed bj scenes last). They also didn't really understand what I meant by 'close up'.
Ultimately there were things that were 'industry standard' that personally I feel are a complete waste of time. Taking the photos (you know those things nobody really looks at) took about 5 hours as we had to reapply hair and makeup again. Then we have lunch and 6 hours have gone by and we haven't even started shooting so people are tired before we even begin.
But yes, I hear you on the licking, kissing, slobbering close up. I rewrote this reply a few times explaining why it didn't work out, but ultimately I'll just leave it as 'shit happens'.
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xeddin1 Totally understand regarding logistics and timeframe. Sorry if I came off a bit harsh. Honestly, I know you have really good creative juices. It comes out in your PMVs. Once the technical stuff is improved on, I see some great scenes in your future.
xeddin1 There was constant dirty talking throughout, so unsure what you mean. I did mention to lick him, but it was a 13 hour shoot and I wasn't going to cut again (filmed bj scenes last). They also didn't really understand what I meant by 'close up'.
I think actually what I mean is that in your PMVs, you have a great eye for "sensory overload". You create these videos of being bombarded every which way, which is something I crave in multigirl scenes. So, this is what I mean by I think there wasn't enough "Pornoverse" intensity. It lacked what I perceive that you have a talent for. That smothering effect of intensity.
g2kbuffetboy You didn't come off as harsh, I appreciate the feedback. I just don't want anyone to be under the impression that I looked at the footage and thought 'hyuk, gorsh Mickey that looks perfect!'.
As for everything else, again, 'shit happens'. I may have written too complex of a script and should have focused more on dumbing it down so the key areas could be focused on.
Finally watched the scene and it was ok. Camera was a little too close at times for me with it feeling like it was at chest level instead of eye level. Also do we have to persist with “step”mommy for the whole scene? SLRO don’t do this with their other taboo scenes. I get that you have to establish that she’s only your stepmom at the outset but surely we can drop the “step” as the scene progresses.
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xeddin1 Fair enough I suppose, I just don’t think you’re really pleasing anyone with “stepmommy” throughout the scene. Taboo fans want more taboo language and non-taboo fans don’t want this stuff at all.
I’m sure SLR’s compliance people can guide you in what they allow and, as we all know, they’re on the cautious side themselves when it comes to not upsetting credit card companies! Obviously they won’t allow incest roleplay but stepfamily stuff isn’t incest. I understand it’s a bit of a dance but, from watching a lot of this stuff on the internet, it seems like you’re ok as long as you clearly establish it’s stepfamily at the outset.
Ultimately though, I’m not the one taking the risk so obviously you have to do what you think is best for you. I’m just giving you my feedback which is that I don’t think constantly reinforcing the step will please fans of this genre of porn.
I’ve said my piece though so I promise I’ll shut up about it now!