• GGlokta

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    One major part that drives my interest in VR is how much potential there is to it.

    We are in a phase where reading news and rumors about the next VR related tech is exciting because as a consumer you know it is not just incremental improvements such as the next iPhone iteration but stuff that make an actual difference.

    However I feel like a lot of the major studios are lazy when it comes to innovating and experimenting with what is currently available to them, tech wise. There are many examples of the issues related to the 8k canon camera when studios first switched over, but there are now examples of studios that have managed to make very good use of it. With good lightning, special lenses?, processing and what not, VRBangers and a few other studios have far better visuals than the vast majority. Also there are a few smaller studios that have excellent quality, such as VRSUN:

    https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/the-art-of-soft-touches-51099

    I think SLR originals have good quality as well, and I give credit to SLR for being a major player when it comes to innovating VR porn. However when it comes to pure visuals I think you definitely could improve more, I expect you to be among the very best!

    Personally I don’t take any edibles, use fuckdolls or whatever people do to improve the immersion, I do appreciate good angels/scale/settings and such but I think there is room for much better visual quality when it comes to most studios. A few scenes from VRBangers, simsense media, VRsun and even LethalHardcoreVR (a few months back, before they messed up the offset and got blur on the lens) make me feel like I watch HD VR and that highly improves the immersion for me.

    When I know how clear and crisp it could look I get so disappointed watching scenes from RealJamVR for example, so many good models, frequent releases, but so far behind on the visuals that I don’t even bother because it is so much worse.

    Also wankzvr/povr/milfvr has looked the same for years(speaking of their latest releases, I know the ones uploaded here are a few years old but they still look the same), they don’t even dare to try with the “new” cameras, just upscaling…

    I wish studios were more ambitious and that more would strive for perfection

      Totally agree. Not sure it’s laziness but there’s 0 excuse that the quality isn’t the same across the board as it is on Vrbangers/vrconk. The quality they have is miles and miles ahead of pretty much all studios. Even Badoink has improved. I don’t think SLRO really look that good at all. The outlines seem too dark now, or the lighting is off. It looks more grainy to me than it should. And the scale seems off too. I’m not versed at all in the technical aspects of it so I don’t understand why it’s the case hit clearly VRB is doing somethjng different that is vastly superior. So the proof is out there of what videos can look like and yet no one else can do it.

      That's the biggest problem we are facing in vr.
      That's why we stepped up production with originals and that's why we are getting all flat now to get us content overkill

      That should greatly boost production

        Glokta
        Good post. You say you want innovation and experimenting, however I'd wager that is not in fact correct. You want polish...which often does not come from experimentation until much later. No, experimentation is often met with extreme prejudice, especially on SLR. It is pissed on. Nearly every video I have made has had at least someone ridicule the 'experiment', some even had forum posts demanding they be removed. Now, I keep going cuz so what.

        All I am saying, is that from what I see (for the most part) the porn community will heavily skull fuck any attempt for experimentation. They are not patient enough to try to see where it will go or what it can be. Filming VR is exceedingly more complicated and more time consuming than 2D. If you find something that 'kind of works', then most studios will stick with that instead of risking their pay check.

        Now, if it is the case that you in fact do care for experimentation, then so to must it be true that you must appreciate the failures that are inevitable along the ride.

            doublevr Why are people saying "all flat"? Are you trying to rile up the townsfolk.

              xeddin1 To the consumers,the proof of the pudding is in the eating.If it tastes good,we let you know.If it tastes bad,we let you know.The result speaks for itself.Some studios seem to manage the new camera quite well while others don't.I don't think most of us give negative feed back just for the sake of it.Note the favourable responses given to the recent camera upgrade at StasyQ and StripzVR.However,I do agree with you we want polished,finished product and experiment is the way to achieve it.

                xeddin1 I think we want experimentation if you are trying to do something better that people are looking for.
                If you are just trying to do something that you personally want but no one else has ever said they are looking for it too then people are going to ask WTF is this.
                Or if you just try something random, same outcome.
                Most things have been tried before in one form or other. Don't go out on a limb and try to reinvent the wheel. It's not going to work.
                Someone tried to mix POV and NON but it has been tried many times over the years. I could have told them it wouldn't work but instead they just wasted 3 scenes trying to experiment with something that has already failed.

                The point is you have read what people are looking for. So why not try to do those things.

                    rerun119 Hardcore disagree with some of that, but to each their own.
                    Though I suppose it depends on the studio / person. Creating only what you are 'told' to create kills all creativity in my view. I feel you should only make what you personally enjoy. Otherwise you will never create anything great. You can see this juxtaposed by looking at Lord of the Rings vs. Rings of Power.

                    rerun119 The point is you have read what people are looking for. So why not try to do those things.
                    There was just a post about people wanting Aheago content. Should producers make more of that then?

                        Vrsumo2017 I want more non pov! 🙋‍♂️

                        A problem you have is that you want more of literally anything and everything. I'm curious to know, if you could only pick 1 (ONE) thing to change about new scenes, what would it be?

                            Hairsational A problem you have

                            Damn bro wanting more variety besides pov is a problem? 🤷‍♂️

                            Change anything? Nothing really, pov seems to be the stable for vr porn, directors have been doing good camera work with pov sex positions, lots of amateur and new channels filming great content we normally don't see with our "traditional pov"

                            But I'm ready for studios like vrhush, realjamvr, slr, you know the "top channels" but I want to see these studios start doing non pov again. I want to see some pornstar hotties get smashed in vr like they do in 2d! 🥂 that's what I want to see.

                            Bro you wouldn't want to be on a porn set bts, a walking vr camera checking out the hotties? Maybe they suck you the fan off in pov, would be fun!

                            but I'm ready for sum new shit. And I think that's non pov, we'll start to see more of it and it will be featuring our favorite pornstars too! getting smashed! Hummm, Will be fun! 😉

                                Vrsumo2017 The secret of getting what you want is NOT asking for it. I didn't ask for AI PT on my phone - and I will get it. I didn't ask for going all flat - and I will get it. Works like a charm! 😃

                                  Imo most studios are lazy and inattentive most regarding one of the most important aspects of vrporn regarding immersion-SCALE
                                  Every single studio except 2 that films in 8k has bad scale including vrbangers. Every studio everything looks bigger than real life with the exception of two, slro and czechvr. All other studios with 8k is scaled badly. Studios that use 7k like wankz and povr much better than 8k studios and better 7k than badly scaled 8k imo. Kudos to slr and czechvr for scaling good, all the other studios need to step up their game or use a different camera.

                                    Glokta Yeah agreed, VRBANGERS is lonely at the top right now in terms of visual quality. Hopefully SLR can even surpass that when they get their newly (pre)ordered blackmagic-ursa-cine-immersive cam.

                                        harigeharry vr bangers visual quality like sharpness/clarity.. sure is great, but scale they are far behind slro. Scale is equally if not more important for immersion imo

                                            jojo321 Not sure how you could say that. SLRO is all over the place with scale. Most times model is too far away or too small to me. It all depends on the individuals' IPD too. The problem is the adjustments in the Deo player are drastic when you change them. If theyadjusted the values to make each notch more of a subtle adjustment it might help. For instance going from .05 to 1.0 in horizontal offset is a huge difference, where somewhere in between would look better. Same goes for pretty much all the settings. The values between each are just too big imo. Doesn't allow for good adjusting for your personal IPD.

                                                jojo321 Every single studio except 2 that films in 8k has bad scale including vrbangers. Every studio everything looks bigger than real life with the exception of two, slro and czechvr. All other studios with 8k is scaled badly. Studios that use 7k like wankz and povr much better than 8k studios and better 7k than badly scaled 8k imo. Kudos to slr and czechvr for scaling good, all the other studios need to step up their game or use a different camera.

                                                Truer words have never been spoken.
                                                I hate the 8k camera because of this. It has set VR back by years because of this. The old 4k cameras looked way better for scale.