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sogman
Just a guess but the techs are probably very aware of how much it will cost them to process each AI PT and each AI script. Also, storage costs. So when they see "unlimited" they think "$x per use * ∞ uses = $∞".

Throwing random numbers:

The current 500GB + 20 tokens at $14.99 per month:

  • 1 month of 500 GB storage cost = $2
  • 1 processing of either an AI PT or AI script cost = $.25 * 20 = $5
  • 1 month of overhead (development recoup, upload, etc) cost = $5
  • so 500 GB and 20 tokens costs $2 + 5 + 5 = $12 max
  • Charge $14.99 and come out with a nice 20% profit (minimum).

Change that to unlimited tokens and you likely have more AI processing and more upload churn. So:

  • 1 month of 500 GB storage cost = $2
  • 1 processing of either an AI PT or AI script cost = $.25 * 20-60? = $5-15? average $7.50?
  • 1 month of overhead (development recoup, upload, etc) cost = $5-15? average $7.50?
  • so 500 GB and unlimited tokens costs $2 + 7.50 + 7.50 = $17 average but really $12-32
  • Charge $14.99 and ...hope

      fuccaneer

      Who realistically is going to churn 60 videos a month? Upload time for a single video is pretty long, not many people have time for that. I would think people will keep like 2/3 of their storage as their favorite non-SLR hosted scenes in there and rotate the others. The site still has a ton of non-Drive PT content still as well. Honestly, 20-30 credits is probably fine after the initial month or two. Just hope they at least keep it to 30 to match the storage capacity.

          Wondering if downloaded videos from the sites listed below work with Drive - anyone know?

          BadoinkVR
          VRSpy
          VRBangers
          NaughtyAmerica
          Tonight’s Girlfriend

            Garyindiana2 The source as such won't matter. It was mentioned that AI PT mask generation is not possible for h264 videos, so PT for older videos not available in h265 won't work. If it's the same for scripts I don't know.

              sogman for unlimited you have to have advanced logic to manage extremes. it's a bit tricky with no usage data. we might release credits first before we come up with advanced unlimited logic

              there is a huge back-end development involved that also requires legacy architecture change.

                Credits didn’t reset at the beginning of the month as promised. Shocker!

                  Can I send you guys a SLR Drive link to check out why it isn't working for AI passthrough?

                  It's not CGI, toons or whatever, it's a real person in a bedroom, but the lighting is mostly blue which maybe confuses the AI passthrough?

                    • Ssogman

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                      shankpot12

                      shankpot12 Who realistically is going to churn 60 videos a month? Upload time for a single video is pretty long,

                      Oh I could do that is a weekend. You put a bunch in, and let them do their thing, come back later or the next day and and finalize them. You have to remember, just cause you upload a video does not mean its gonna be your cup of tea. So you have to go the the next, or find one you are just in the mood for. I might go through a bunch and just hit the high spots and say nah until I find the one that catches my eye. In other words, I upload 60 bideos but only get off to 5 of them maybe. Thats a bit of an exaggeration but who knows, sometimes you get a bunch of doozies in a row

                          fuccaneer Not sure why the 500gb is so important. Its not like drive is really going to be long term storage for anyone with big video sizes. Even 50 or 100 gigs would be fine. Just enough to render some videos, wank, and move on. You arent likely to watch a video more than once or twice anyway. And if you are, you come back to it in a month or something and reupload it.

                          Not sure where they are coming up with the $15 cost anyway or what its really based on. Maybe they dont know either. It was $30 at first for like 2tb... now its $15 for 500bg. I dont understand. Stroage slashed 4x but the cost only halves? I guess it really depends how much people are uploading and using SLR to render with AI, and nobody really knows yet. sounds like doublevr is pressing for unlimited credits, but current idea is like 20 credits or something? Wouldnt it make more sense to have a daily cap rather than a monthly cap? Like 5 or 10 per day or something. Seems like that could solve the credit amount issue by making it daily vs monthly or unlimited

                              sogman Not sure why the 500gb is so important. Its not like drive is really going to be long term storage for anyone with big video sizes. Even 50 or 100 gigs would be fine.

                              If there's no downloads then the uploaded videos need to stay uploaded to be useful. 50-100 GB isn't going to be enough storage if you're a PT/script crackhead that wants more than one choice of video to wank to. People aren't going to want burn credits by repeatedly uploading their favorite videos either, nor are they going to want to spend all day re-uploading when they could have been stored.

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                                  Hairsational No what Im saying is.... 50 or 100 gigs is fine for 1 day worth of videos. Do you not agree with that? Should give you pleanty of choice for a days worth. Even for me, one of those crackheads you meantion. I dont need 500gigs of storage cause tomorrow Im not going to watch anthing I uploaded today. Does that make sense? And if I dont watch all the 50 or 100 gigs I uploaded today... I will tomorrow. So still problem solved. It makes more sense to have a lower storage cap to keep the cost down, and just have a daily cap on credits vs monthly. You only have to worry about 1 day at a time anyway.

                                  A side note is you are talking like everyone is going to 100% only use drive and its capabilities and just completely stop using SLR uloaded content. Not going to happen, even for you. The honeymoon high wears off quick. Drive is a just a feature of the website, its not taking over the website, and Im sure the developers and all the people involved with getting it up and going know this is a realistic way to look at it.

                                      not sure if this is also in the pipeline but imo would be good idea to besides just the subscription models, be able to buy individual credits as well. like $1 a credit or something would be cool

                                      sogman the use case you describe is the opposite of what I would think the average user utilizes a streaming service for. We don’t want hours of work to prepare to wank. I want to be able to log on, select a video, and go on about my day. I’d much prefer the larger storage because as I learned yesterday after finally getting credits to renew… recycling videos is a pain in the ass. It takes forever. I don’t want to be doing that every few days. 500gb is a nice balance for that- I can just go upload 10-15 videos one day and be good for a month. There’s plenty of other options in the SLR videos to not need 30 videos from other sites every week. Maybe you are thinking you would upload new shit you never saw before, but to me that sounds like a waste of time. I only intend to use drive for videos not hosted here that I have seen and would like to revisit in PT.

                                          • Ssogman

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                                            shankpot12 NoI understand your perspective. I guess what Im getting at is you say for you 10 or 15 videos is good for a month. The user amount is kinda subjective, but lets say 15 videos for a month. Thats you. And every single one of those 15 videos is going to be a winner for you? Do you see what I mean? I personally dont want to have to force them to be good cause I ran out of credits.

                                            shankpot12 … recycling videos is a pain in the ass. It takes forever.

                                            It doesnt have to be. Just have a daily cap of 10 or 15 credits, or do unlimited as most people probably wont be using much anyway, if what you are saing is really the average person. And if you have 10 or 15 videos uploaded and you dont want to mess around for a month, have at it. I want the option to mess with it daily cause thats me. A daily cap makes more sense, I dare say even more than unlimited monthly

                                            The storage is only to render videos, thats all we care about drive for. If the bottleneck is cloud storage space, well we all have hard drives on our computers or laptops and expandable storage is dirt cheap. 500gig hdd refirbished just for backup videos like $15 on amazon. Id rather keep the cost down and put it towards credits. Rendering in passthrough and scripts with AI is legit all we are here for. Everybody and their brother is selling cloud storage for dirt cheap.

                                                doublevr does full functionality include flat-to-3D? Only asking because I just saw that being offered in the last few days.

                                                    As5m0deu5 that's right.
                                                    We plan adding all the special treatments to your uploads like voice synthesis translations, subtitles and everything that's coming out. There's a ton of it.

                                                        doublevr That sounds awesome! I for one am pumped, I think I'm probably your target audience lol 😆