Quest Link Passthrough Support Update

metichemsi

doublevr Not sure I quite understand, steam is dead in regards to VR development? Quest link via cable while using your steam app is the only way to watch PT videos that you download, but that doesnt work, of course the usage is virtually non-existent. I know your roadmap is to push streaming as the #1 priority but the only other way to watch PT videos you download is to either load them on the abysmal memory the headset has or setup your own network streaming solution with a nas or something similar, which most people dont want to really bother with. I dont know why i feel like some of us are asking for something completely alien? We are simply asking for a way to watch PT videos, which by the way you are leading the way in trying to push the tech, by using a tethered method. For the longest time your responses have always been meta doesnt allow that, ok but that has obviously changed because now even small developers are able to do so. I just dont get it, you push and make super high quality PT videos and want people to watch them but dont want to offer users a way to enjoy them at the absolute highest possible quality? Your app on quest doesnt even recognize an external usb drive like some other apps do on quest??? Tell me, meta also doesnt allow that or are you going to say less than 1% of users actually use that also? I know im not the only one thats been asking for link support, just search quest link support and you will see plenty of other people asking for it and having to use workaround methods with other apps just to achieve that like virtual desktop instead of natively supporting it.

Uzername

metichemsi via cable ... doesn't work

This has killed PT content. A workaround is to copy the film to your device.

metichemsi

doublevr also i think the link doesnt work because you need to be signed in to watch adult content, if you are not logged in to steam while trying to open the link it wont let you, i guess your team really doesnt use steam by the looks of it.
Here you can use the steamdb link page to at least look at something i guess
https://steamdb.info/app/3120600/

silentcoder

metichemsi I agree with you totally. And how is steam dead, I have no idea. I don't want to believe that.

silentcoder

silentcoder And that app is really cool and I look to see more integrations with it as well.

metichemsi

silentcoder its not dead, they just say that because they simply have no interest in spending time and effort to develop it when most of their users use the meta app on the headset and simply stream. We all know that people who download their SLR scenes and want to watch them in the highest possible quality, we dont even use the SLR app, we use better options like heresphere, so no wonder they think steam app usage is "dead" lol because their existing option sucks and has no development. If they actually fixed it and added PT support then maybe people would actually want to use it haha This is just another example of tech bureaucrats saying they know exactly what we want lol

metichemsi

silentcoder right? the actual gameplay is not the point, but the tech side of it and the integration of PT and depth mapping is awesome, sure this can already be done through the headset directly, but tethered link support opens up the door for 3rd party developers, specially in porn, who would never get approved to be on the meta store to make and sell apps like this. Its such a no brainer.

fenderwq

metichemsi yeah, the issue is script streaming and passthrough though. If they kill of deovr pc they should just allow heresphere to allow streaming scripts and passthrough. Or better yet download that both but that's pretty unlikely

rerun119

fenderwq They will never let you use Heresphere for streaming. Because it is better and that hurts people's feeling.
Instead of becoming better than them, just ban them and say we are better.

adinihsan

Steam Link works 10x better than Meta’s Links

If something works over Quest Link it should work over Air Link as well right? I’d guess much more people use that vs. wired. Combined (Steam/Quest/Air Link) I don’t think its a small group

rerun119

adinihsan Because steam doesn't work with my Pimax now. I download way more and then watch with heresphere.

Uzername

Virtual Desktop + HereSphere

Connoisseurs of VR use LAN streaming and HereSphere because the dynamic sharpening makes the experience feel more "real". I get 2.5 GB per second through 6e wireless. Web streaming is, at best, 500 MBPS.

adinihsan

rerun119 ah that sucks. Although I agree that Heresphere is better, I doubt even 10% of SLR subs use it. I don’t think they ‘banned’ Heresphere but simply decided not to invest into working with the app (they’d have to set up config themselves afaik).

metichemsi

adinihsan of course not, its superior and people dont use it because they want scripts to also work with their "devices" I personally could care less for devices, ive used a wide range of them and sure its "cool" in the moment but that post nut clarity hits real quick once you finish and realize you got all that crap to clean up and put away. Not worth it unless you are a hermit and have no issue with other human contact. Heresphere is still my prefered method of playback using my NAS for streaming PT content.

adinihsan

Uzername metichemsi again, I agree HS is better. Still, the userbase is likely minimal for SLR (with or without toys). They’ve made their own platform and it makes sense business wise to stick to it. Fortunately its a good platform (unlike Play’A) so I don’t really see a problem.

You CAN watch SLR in HS btw, but it would use a download, still this means you can pick 30+ scenes per week (redownloading same scene won’t count), which seems like plenty tbh

metichemsi

Uzername true but even a couple of PT scenes is enough to fill the device up and constantly transferring and deleting from the device that's forever. I'll tell you what would also easily fix everything but im sure @doublevr has a reason to say nobody uses or meta doesnt allow, is to simply allow the app to read from an external drive connected to the headset. I have at least one video player app I use to do this, its not perfect but it works, how hard would that be? They simply dont care for offline, downloaded media being played. Its not streaming, they are not collecting usage data, and it doesnt translate to subscriptions in their eyes, and ultimately that is all they seem to care about.

Uzername

doublevr steam is dead

Nope.

adinihsan

adinihsan one more thing about HS. They ask you €30 (pretty ridiculous) for no interruptions. Steam/Meta version are completely seperate, I asked for a Meta key as I had already purchased and they basically told me to f*** off and buy again.

Deo is free and much more user friendly, most SLR users won’t look twice at HS

Hairsational

adinihsan You CAN watch SLR in HS btw, but it would use a download, still this means you can pick 30+ scenes per week (redownloading same scene won’t count), which seems like plenty tbh

SLR doesn't have 30 good new scenes a week so unless you watch a lot of older scenes it's still reasonably usable to stream with the limit

rerun119

adinihsan They ask you €30 (pretty ridiculous) for no interruptions

You really think 30$ is ridiculous?
Do you know that one guy made Heresphere and still improves it. Do you think he should just make the best player for free for you. He made a player that others have whole teams working on it.
It is still free if you don't want to spend that mighty 30 dollars.
Man people expect that they should just be given something for nothing.

doublevr

metichemsi how do you make it pt? Didn't manage to find a way to pt it

Tried enabling pt for steam link app pressing oculus button, but everything disappeared.

metichemsi

doublevr ok so, I use wired oculus link connection to my pc, on the meta quest link pc app you have to make sure you have developer runtime features enabled in the beta section and then make sure you have passthrough over meta quest link enabled and also spatial data over meta quest link enabled. When you actually run the game on steam you need to make sure you select the meta version, there is a steam and a meta option on your first launch. Also, on your actual quest 3 headset OS make sure you have a your playspace mapped out, the kind of room scale scan that uses the lidar to map out your room with a mesh, once that is done, you can hop back to meta quest link, and launch the game on steam. Once the game launches you should see a couple of toggles on the left to enable spatial view. Sometimes you have to close the app and open it again for it to kick in. Let me know if you need any more help.

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