harigeharry everyone was complaining about them before they left. That's funny
Passthrough videos are getting technically worse
doublevr About Simsensemedia? Really? Not sure what there was to complain about these guys made top notch stuff. Everything lined up, they shot in super high details, these were pretty damn near perfect.
@doublevr I just did a quick forum search on Simsensemedia and found nothing but love. Not sure where you saw people complaining?
The video-quality and technical/positioning in the PT-production varies wildly. I remember seeing mr. Nash casually make the incredible statement in a thread that he did not watch all the films he produced (!) and it feels like this is the case with a lot of the content in general and in PT the attention to details and consistency is even more important than in regular VR.
The lining up is alpha and omega and if the producers spent 30-60 mins actually skimming through the films with a headset on I cannot fathom how they don't see what the problem(s) are?
With Simsen they usually nailed the crisp and clear image and produced 10/10 movies like "I'm Crazy About You", and then the next one would be gigantic or mini scale, cock way off in the distance or all lying position.
The inconcistency is a bit baffling.
takabom I agree, that scene is top notch. Luckily I've discovered a way to create my own PT videos using AI, though it can be very time consuming at higher resolutions and is best implemented using 2-6 minutes clips during the same position. The results are very good however.
In case anyone is interested:
https://discuss.eroscripts.com/t/how-to-make-your-own-passthrough-videos/153225
Hey everyone.
We use same set up as before for PT scenes, both on production and post production.
Production films on same camera
Post production is done same as before
We are researching the issue with image quality and will update you on the results.
harigeharry I thought Simsense quality was good but the camera angles were all over the place and the guy he used most of the time didnt suit me.
There is also the casting issue. Lots of old Euro models that we've seen 100 times before. Did you book them because they have the most likes on their profiles? It would be wrong to assume that just because a model has more likes over 5+ years in the business and maybe 100 scenes that their new videos will outperform a hot new star who hasn't built up the same social following. More likes on a profile does not mean more in demand. The casting is even more tired than CzechVR, who at least introduce new talent on occasion.
vrpicasso Euro PT is never going to be very good unless all you want is a non talking girl to just walk into your room.
It's not anybody's fault but the language barrier is a big wall to overcome. With PT you don't have anything to help with the plot. It's just a girl and that is it unless you want extra stuff floating around the room.
rerun119 EU girls that dont talk isnt necessarily a bad thing because if they could speak English well they would be saying the same "your dick is sooo big" nonsense as the US girls. Some of the US girls just won't shut up.
Hairsational EU girls that dont talk isnt necessarily a bad thing
It can be just as bad when the directors instigate them to replace the big dick talk with contorted facial expressions that make them look as if they were walking barefoot over a bed of hot embers or giving birth.
Great performers + hot talent transcends language. I just don't want to see only the tired 2019 era Euro stars. What a waste of potential when there are so many hot new chicks available - more than even in the USA I'd say, thanks to OF taking all the talent. Not one interesting Euro PT booking yet. The USA PT bookings were generally top fucking tier.
Manny_S Hi Manny, looking for any updates as I haven't noticed any improvements. We're not alone here. I don't think any other studio offering AR passthrough has come close to the quality of SimsenseMedia. They just had that secret sauce which made for amazing immersion. Appreciate your efforts.
tmynx moving sliders too much eventually makes the whole image disproportionate and not correct.
I've always suggested using the + and - it's usually one or 3 clicks to right or left to resize the image.
But yeah, I wish scale was on point every time.
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Sorry but this is getting really frustrating, if anything the quality seems to be going down and down. The Lia Lin one for example, the scale/aspect ratio is super wrong sometimes feels like you have a super mini doll on your lap, not sure what's going on here !?!?! Don't they check those video's before posting?
n0den I don't think they test their PT videos
You would think they would, these vr cams can live stream to the headset, I'd love to be guy in the background giving the thumbs when the image looks on point.
How's look in there
It's good
Manny_S We never got that promised update and the quality is only getting worse it seems.
I feel like @Manny_S is one of us. I'm pretty sure he watched VR on a regular basis before starting to work for SLR.
So i seems like he knows what looks correct and what doesn't.
Maybe there are a lot of factors that we just don't know about. If he is on set helping with the directing then it must be harder than we can imagine.
Manny can you give us examples of what makes it so tricky that we don't understand?
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rerun119 Oh I don't doubt it's difficult. And pretty much nobody else is doing it, so nobody to learn from. But man it just feels frustrating for somebody like me who bought a lifetime here. One of the main reasons, probably THE main reason I was happy here lately was because of those awesome PT quality video's that Simsense made. Then he leaves to another site and is being replaced by someone who still has to learn it and is nowhere near that quality. Can't help but think, if they do that to the other succesful directors too, everybody with lifetime gets seriously screwed. Of course, such risks comes with buying lifetime, but man, still, it sucks ...
Of course I'm rooting now for @Manny_S to learn and improve but the conclusion that things have only gotten worse in those 4 months, isn't very promising. I mean, 4 months now of poorly short PT video's, no improvements, if anything, it even seems to be getting worse ... at what point should management conclude it's just not going to work?