Passthrough videos are getting technically worse

Arsians_com

It's probably because the video is equirectangular in a grey circle and not fisheye like it looks at first. That also effects scale,but won't help fix it. It's a side effect of going through Eos VR Utility and because of the background the algo thinks it's fisheye.
I won't do the separate renderings in the future and leave content at 190 fisheye for max quality, it was just this time because I wanted to finish for All Hallows Eve.

Good spot though, thx for feedback.

doublevr

Hairsational it might be a huge legal and reputation deal if agents find out unless they have specifically contracted preformers for that

harigeharry

George Hey George, I see you bought the new chair! And DAAAAMN this makes a difference! The latest scene, with Chanel Camryn blows everything else away! It's so great what that does to the perspective, everything now just looks great!! When she kneels, her legs are really on the ground, her hands on my legs, all perspective is perfect. It just really looks and feels like she's there. Wow!

The picture quality already was awesome, seems it even got better @Manny_S , really great job.

It's just amazing how you guys managed to improve things. SLR is back at the top of the passthrough game!!

Two minor points of possible improvements:
1) the male actor is leaning back quite a lot when sitting in the chair. I need to do the same to get the dick in the right position, slightly uncomfortable, if possible have the male actor sit up more straight
2) male fucking back, as discussed above, in PT this just does not look good and results in the 'floating dick syndrome' and breaks the immersion. In PT the girl really should do all the work. Like said above, in PT boring is better, don't try to make it too fancy with 'interesting' positions. It just doesn't work in PT.

Anyway congrats on the progress that has been made, it's really awesome to see!

rerun119

harigeharry I don't think George directed that scene. It an american actor and George is in Europe. I think Nash directed it.

Vrsumo2017

harigeharry When she kneels, her legs are really on the ground

I've assumed the camera was low and that's why they floated over the floor instead of actually looking like feet or knees are on the floor or bed, cam to low will make em float. Assuming.

Was usually like that with doggy, the model ass would be up to my mid stomach area, zooming or height adjustment would not help ether. 🤦‍♂️

Pt seems very useful for directors to actually look at and see how their cam position and angels look in the headset.

Pt alpha videos are pretty much established in virtual porn, so AR is here to stay, PT Alpha & AI PT 👍...AI will get so good we won't need alpha rooms, "green screen" but as of now alpha pt still looks the best out if the two. But there so much AI PT in such a short amount time of course it will dominate. AI PT spreaded like a wild fire, lol and not everyone likes it.

Lol PTgang 🤜🤛🎉🥂

I have more thoughts about pt, I can go on and on haf
But, "memory updated" for later.

harigeharry

rerun119 Hmm could be indeed....

harigeharry

Vrsumo2017 Yeah any kind of viewer image adjustment might correct the dick position but will create new problems, like model size problems, aspect problems etc which just will result in a bad PT experience. Until we have real 6DOF PT, the viewer never should need to make any kind of image adjustments. The viewer just needs to make sure he's in the same position as the male model and then everything should automatically look perfect. That's why it's super important that there are only 2-3 positions, sitting, lying and maybe kneeling (for doggy) although I'd strongly prefer just sitting and lying as 2 positions. This prevents all kinds of problems.

Actually PT shooting is easy, since for PT goes "Boring is better". Just have 2 positions, no male fucking back, the male actor should not move at all. But still PT directors keep making those errors, like even in that last video that was already pretty good, the male actor still was fucking back.

They oftentimes shoot in their own foot by over complicating things. With PT it's 100x more important to just have a mathematically correct, realistic image than 'interesting' positions.

Vrsumo2017

harigeharry Until we have real 6DOF PT, the viewer never should need to make any kind of image adjustments.

Holy hell bro I can imagine that! 🤯
Example in laying cg I can sit up to get glimpse of behind her hips and the top ass cheek, Or in doggy, lean forward to see to sum side boob and face action. That will be pretty awesome bro! 🤯🥵👍

But these movements would also need directional controller usage as well. Options always good for consumers.👍

Vrsumo2017

harigeharry Actually PT shooting is easy, since for PT goes "Boring is better".

Kindly Disagree bro, stand me in up in a green room with about 5 hotties in lingerie dancing for new years eve party, it's one position standing, we dance party in the room, never touch the cam, let it roll, do the standing hand jobs, standing bjs, do some doggy, standing Mish, carry Mish, then sit me in a cough seat, or lay in bed. Repeat.

Three positions, standing sitting laying, set cams in these positions and let the sex action roll naturally with very Lil cuts for transitions, example going from a seated cg to a seated rcg, I've seen cuts here but it should flow naturally.

Or a cg to a bj, no cuts.

It's like a burger on a grill bro, let it cook.
In pt or in just regular vr, but more important for pt set the cam and let them cook bro, don't adjust the cam mid fuck bro, im in a fap session and my dick cuts to it off my body. So for pt "simpler is better" three position standing seating laying, set it and let it cook bro.

Bro I thought of an idea, what if
Example you lay the cam down in laying position (or what ever position, just an example) set the cam and let the couple fuck, but here's the twist, you let them both talk! 🤯....what? No? but my "immersion"...yes! Bro the male model is the quarterback calling the play, like wrestling... calling your moves, like dancing bro, well more like wrestling they call moves with each other in the ring, porn sex same way, "turn around, turn me around, pull your legs back, jerk off in my pussy, bend me over doggy daddy, pick me up and fuck me daddy, ah yeah gag on it, spread your ass cheeks, pull my hair, pull mine too, lick my ass, lick mine too, you get my point right...let them talk and fuck, feel the vibe, let it flow naturally...BUT we can use AI as a option to silent guys voice, voice in? Voice out? Shit would work for director's too calling the plays from the side line.

More titty bounce. Yeah
Arch back more!
More hip grind
Faster.
Now say fuck me daddy I'm such a sexlikereal porn slut. Now both cumming same time sound like wild animals. Lol

Anyway, bro, AI would streamline that process, letting directors work more freely without worrying about cutting out unnecessary vocal cues. This way, they can focus on directing the action without holding back, knowing that AI can handle the cleanup. I could definitely see AI having a big role in that aspect and when it comes to virtual porn, it could make experiences more "immersive" 🙄 and interactive. With AI, the hottie models could respond more naturally, creating a more personalized and lifelike experience for the user.

Male speech on, or off.
Bro I'm fine with male speech, I kinda would prefer the speech, and women are coming into the virtual world bro and what hottie doesn't like a hot sexy male voice, also needs to be more her pov vr too, at that point we can take out the female voice if we wanted to, options bro. 👍

My bad guys, went on to long
I'd forget all that by tomorrow, honestly lol 🤦‍♂️

Boring better, I disagree bro, simple is better for alpha content. We still can do story lines and spicy it up, but with cam positions, simple is better, set the cam and let them cook bro. 👍

Vrsumo2017

harigeharry no male fucking back, the male actor should not move at all.

Big kindly disagree bro! Male actors need to fuck bro, because while he hip trust I go along with it, especially with the torso or fleshlight, and in pt I usually just keep the dick so a dick just there kinda gets boring after a while, they gotta fuck bro it's human nature, now they could do the set the male doll route for your preference, i think it's taboo one of the taboo channels but they use a strap on and i never know if its a real human or what but it works petty good, plus the dildo is a realistic looking one. 🤷‍♂️

but I get you bro that's your preference, but me personally I like the dude to fuck bro, fuck like there's no tomorrow! Spank it, spread it, squeeze em, fingerbang it, do it all bro, I suggested bringing out the hands, cut a opening for just his hands out, I'd do full arms, bro they be like virtual hands floating. And he don't have to have his arms in frame all the time but every now smak an ass, spread sum cheeks. Finger a booty in close up 69 view.

I mentioned this before, free the hands! 🙌

harigeharry

But you do realize that if you add a bunch of different (male) positions, then the viewer would need to mimic them all? At least if he wants a natural looking experience (=geometrically correct model). I don't think a lot of people want to continually check out what position the male model is in and then mimic them all. I think most dont want to make a study out of watching a PT scene, nor do they want to do gymnastics and get themselves in the whole kamasutra of positions. They just want to enjoy a scene.

And fucking back, I just dont see how that works in PT. Unless you like seeing a dick floating around, you'd need to EXACTLY mimic that with your own dick. You'd need to have the exact thrust speed as the male model, so you continually have to watch that dick and then try to mimic it, or the dick is just not where your dick is. And even then, it's not going to be perfect. I tried a few times but gave up quickly. It just doesn't work.

It's a lot of focus attention that at least for me already completely breaks the experience. To me PT is about tricking your brain into believing that the model is really there in front of you and YOU are having sex with her. If you add all that kind of stuff, it's just so much harder to realize that. And in fact, if I actively need to focus on trying to mimic a movement in order to get to that experience, that effort alone already breaks the whole immersion. You shouldn't even have to think during PT. That's why I'm saying, in PT, simpler = better.

If you want to watch a whole strip show in front of you, that's not a problem at all of course, as long as the male actor has a normal seated position, it's all fine. It's not about the female position, it's only about the male position.

The stuff you want works just much better in regular VR than in PT. And of course I do understand that you want all that kind of stuff, but it just doesn't work well in PT.

Vrsumo2017

harigeharry actor has a normal seated position

I suggested to VR Twerk that they adjust the camera to eye level for there pt vids, either for seated or standing positions. Right now, the camera is often too low, so it only looks right if I'm squatting. I recommended they set up a chair, place someone in it, and adjust the camera to eye level. This way, the user could stay seated or move out the way, with the chair acting as a guide for where not to dance, allowing for lap twerking interactions more naturally.

I suggested this to the pt live cam room too but they said "pay me" 🤷‍♂️

So since I never paid and they never took my advice about the pt cam, they just layed on my floor awkwardly most the time, I think they stopped it and went back to regular room now.

But yeah bro, standing, couch or chair seated and laying, three cam position. 👍

Vrsumo2017

harigeharry The stuff you want works just much better in regular VR than in PT

Fosho bro, and I use the many many AI pt as well so I see a lot of male fucking back in pt. Works fine for me bro, I'm not a I need it as real as can be kinda of a guy. But I understand your preference, hell most time when a cg starts it starts off slow and the guy hardly moves, but once the juice get going it Ramps up, so maybe giving a Lil of both will work for both are preference. Either or bro works for me.👍🥂

rerun119

Vrsumo2017 Just some advice. I can write long messages on here too but when they are as long as you write. I don't think people read them.
Maybe try to cut it down to a few lines IF you want people to see your points. I read most but just skip yours because they are so long. But you do you.

Vrsumo2017

rerun119 wow, thanks bro

rerun119

Vrsumo2017 I hope what I wrote didn't come off as me being an asshole. When I said "I can write long messages too" I meant that sometimes I do do that.
I like what you write and your passion for the hotties. I just was saying it so you know that some people might not read all your comments that I'm sure take a long time to write.
I like your comments so just ignore me if you want to.

Vrsumo2017

rerun119 I like your comments

Which is it bro, you like my comments or just skip my comments, lol

But yeah bro, haf the ideas start to flow and if I don't get them out I could forget them.

the worst ideas are the ones not told.

It's all good bro 👍

How you doing? Life treating you good bro?

harigeharry

Ok so that latest PT video that everybody likes so much (including me) was done by Alex Nash, not sure how I missed that.

Either way, @Manny_S when will the first scene with the new chair be released? Really hoping this will indeed have a big impact! I do strongly believe that getting those basics right will do wonders. Thanks!

harigeharry

Ok @Manny_S regarding your latest video (lenna ross), the very first position of the male actor is standing. As you can see here in this small poll: https://forum.sexlikereal.com/d/8556-how-do-you-view-vr-porn , nobody of the viewers is standing when they put on the headset. So this just results in the model being off, most likely her sinking into the floor. It's going to be much better if you have the male model either sitting in a chair, or lying on a bed. Keep in mind though that there will be much more conformity between chair heights than bed heights, so in my opinion a scene should always start with the male positioned in a chair, just like in that latest Alex Nash video, he did that correctly. Also it's just easier to have the model walk around the male in a chair than the mail in a bed

Also that chair position you use is ok-ish (though the male actor is leaning really very much behind, so that's not comfortable at all for us viewers, would be much better if the actor wouldnt need to bend backwards so much) but then the problem is that the female actor climbs onto this block. This just results in her floating in the air. The chances that we viewers have an object of that size and shape in front of us is minimal. So most of the times this just results in her floating in the air, which again kills immersion.

Again, all this can be improved if you just think: how are our viewers positioned when they watch and if you assume that there are no objects in front of them. So dont let the actress climb onto something, because we viewers most likely wont have such object in that exact position.

It's quite simple actually but this WILL really improve the video's! Keep it up! You guys came a long way and I'm sure you can even get much better, I believe in you!

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