Vrsumo2017 Yeah any kind of viewer image adjustment might correct the dick position but will create new problems, like model size problems, aspect problems etc which just will result in a bad PT experience. Until we have real 6DOF PT, the viewer never should need to make any kind of image adjustments. The viewer just needs to make sure he's in the same position as the male model and then everything should automatically look perfect. That's why it's super important that there are only 2-3 positions, sitting, lying and maybe kneeling (for doggy) although I'd strongly prefer just sitting and lying as 2 positions. This prevents all kinds of problems.

Actually PT shooting is easy, since for PT goes "Boring is better". Just have 2 positions, no male fucking back, the male actor should not move at all. But still PT directors keep making those errors, like even in that last video that was already pretty good, the male actor still was fucking back.

They oftentimes shoot in their own foot by over complicating things. With PT it's 100x more important to just have a mathematically correct, realistic image than 'interesting' positions.

      harigeharry Until we have real 6DOF PT, the viewer never should need to make any kind of image adjustments.

      Holy hell bro I can imagine that! 🤯
      Example in laying cg I can sit up to get glimpse of behind her hips and the top ass cheek, Or in doggy, lean forward to see to sum side boob and face action. That will be pretty awesome bro! 🤯🥵👍

      But these movements would also need directional controller usage as well. Options always good for consumers.👍

        harigeharry Actually PT shooting is easy, since for PT goes "Boring is better".

        Kindly Disagree bro, stand me in up in a green room with about 5 hotties in lingerie dancing for new years eve party, it's one position standing, we dance party in the room, never touch the cam, let it roll, do the standing hand jobs, standing bjs, do some doggy, standing Mish, carry Mish, then sit me in a cough seat, or lay in bed. Repeat.

        Three positions, standing sitting laying, set cams in these positions and let the sex action roll naturally with very Lil cuts for transitions, example going from a seated cg to a seated rcg, I've seen cuts here but it should flow naturally.

        Or a cg to a bj, no cuts.

        It's like a burger on a grill bro, let it cook.
        In pt or in just regular vr, but more important for pt set the cam and let them cook bro, don't adjust the cam mid fuck bro, im in a fap session and my dick cuts to it off my body. So for pt "simpler is better" three position standing seating laying, set it and let it cook bro.

        Bro I thought of an idea, what if
        Example you lay the cam down in laying position (or what ever position, just an example) set the cam and let the couple fuck, but here's the twist, you let them both talk! 🤯....what? No? but my "immersion"...yes! Bro the male model is the quarterback calling the play, like wrestling... calling your moves, like dancing bro, well more like wrestling they call moves with each other in the ring, porn sex same way, "turn around, turn me around, pull your legs back, jerk off in my pussy, bend me over doggy daddy, pick me up and fuck me daddy, ah yeah gag on it, spread your ass cheeks, pull my hair, pull mine too, lick my ass, lick mine too, you get my point right...let them talk and fuck, feel the vibe, let it flow naturally...BUT we can use AI as a option to silent guys voice, voice in? Voice out? Shit would work for director's too calling the plays from the side line.

        More titty bounce. Yeah
        Arch back more!
        More hip grind
        Faster.
        Now say fuck me daddy I'm such a sexlikereal porn slut. Now both cumming same time sound like wild animals. Lol

        Anyway, bro, AI would streamline that process, letting directors work more freely without worrying about cutting out unnecessary vocal cues. This way, they can focus on directing the action without holding back, knowing that AI can handle the cleanup. I could definitely see AI having a big role in that aspect and when it comes to virtual porn, it could make experiences more "immersive" 🙄 and interactive. With AI, the hottie models could respond more naturally, creating a more personalized and lifelike experience for the user.

        Male speech on, or off.
        Bro I'm fine with male speech, I kinda would prefer the speech, and women are coming into the virtual world bro and what hottie doesn't like a hot sexy male voice, also needs to be more her pov vr too, at that point we can take out the female voice if we wanted to, options bro. 👍

        My bad guys, went on to long
        I'd forget all that by tomorrow, honestly lol 🤦‍♂️

        Boring better, I disagree bro, simple is better for alpha content. We still can do story lines and spicy it up, but with cam positions, simple is better, set the cam and let them cook bro. 👍

          harigeharry no male fucking back, the male actor should not move at all.

          Big kindly disagree bro! Male actors need to fuck bro, because while he hip trust I go along with it, especially with the torso or fleshlight, and in pt I usually just keep the dick so a dick just there kinda gets boring after a while, they gotta fuck bro it's human nature, now they could do the set the male doll route for your preference, i think it's taboo one of the taboo channels but they use a strap on and i never know if its a real human or what but it works petty good, plus the dildo is a realistic looking one. 🤷‍♂️

          but I get you bro that's your preference, but me personally I like the dude to fuck bro, fuck like there's no tomorrow! Spank it, spread it, squeeze em, fingerbang it, do it all bro, I suggested bringing out the hands, cut a opening for just his hands out, I'd do full arms, bro they be like virtual hands floating. And he don't have to have his arms in frame all the time but every now smak an ass, spread sum cheeks. Finger a booty in close up 69 view.

          I mentioned this before, free the hands! 🙌

            But you do realize that if you add a bunch of different (male) positions, then the viewer would need to mimic them all? At least if he wants a natural looking experience (=geometrically correct model). I don't think a lot of people want to continually check out what position the male model is in and then mimic them all. I think most dont want to make a study out of watching a PT scene, nor do they want to do gymnastics and get themselves in the whole kamasutra of positions. They just want to enjoy a scene.

            And fucking back, I just dont see how that works in PT. Unless you like seeing a dick floating around, you'd need to EXACTLY mimic that with your own dick. You'd need to have the exact thrust speed as the male model, so you continually have to watch that dick and then try to mimic it, or the dick is just not where your dick is. And even then, it's not going to be perfect. I tried a few times but gave up quickly. It just doesn't work.

            It's a lot of focus attention that at least for me already completely breaks the experience. To me PT is about tricking your brain into believing that the model is really there in front of you and YOU are having sex with her. If you add all that kind of stuff, it's just so much harder to realize that. And in fact, if I actively need to focus on trying to mimic a movement in order to get to that experience, that effort alone already breaks the whole immersion. You shouldn't even have to think during PT. That's why I'm saying, in PT, simpler = better.

            If you want to watch a whole strip show in front of you, that's not a problem at all of course, as long as the male actor has a normal seated position, it's all fine. It's not about the female position, it's only about the male position.

            The stuff you want works just much better in regular VR than in PT. And of course I do understand that you want all that kind of stuff, but it just doesn't work well in PT.

              harigeharry actor has a normal seated position

              I suggested to VR Twerk that they adjust the camera to eye level for there pt vids, either for seated or standing positions. Right now, the camera is often too low, so it only looks right if I'm squatting. I recommended they set up a chair, place someone in it, and adjust the camera to eye level. This way, the user could stay seated or move out the way, with the chair acting as a guide for where not to dance, allowing for lap twerking interactions more naturally.

              I suggested this to the pt live cam room too but they said "pay me" 🤷‍♂️

              So since I never paid and they never took my advice about the pt cam, they just layed on my floor awkwardly most the time, I think they stopped it and went back to regular room now.

              But yeah bro, standing, couch or chair seated and laying, three cam position. 👍

                harigeharry The stuff you want works just much better in regular VR than in PT

                Fosho bro, and I use the many many AI pt as well so I see a lot of male fucking back in pt. Works fine for me bro, I'm not a I need it as real as can be kinda of a guy. But I understand your preference, hell most time when a cg starts it starts off slow and the guy hardly moves, but once the juice get going it Ramps up, so maybe giving a Lil of both will work for both are preference. Either or bro works for me.👍🥂

                    Vrsumo2017 Just some advice. I can write long messages on here too but when they are as long as you write. I don't think people read them.
                    Maybe try to cut it down to a few lines IF you want people to see your points. I read most but just skip yours because they are so long. But you do you.

                        Vrsumo2017 I hope what I wrote didn't come off as me being an asshole. When I said "I can write long messages too" I meant that sometimes I do do that.
                        I like what you write and your passion for the hotties. I just was saying it so you know that some people might not read all your comments that I'm sure take a long time to write.
                        I like your comments so just ignore me if you want to.

                            rerun119 I like your comments

                            Which is it bro, you like my comments or just skip my comments, lol

                            But yeah bro, haf the ideas start to flow and if I don't get them out I could forget them.

                            the worst ideas are the ones not told.

                            It's all good bro 👍

                            How you doing? Life treating you good bro?

                              Ok so that latest PT video that everybody likes so much (including me) was done by Alex Nash, not sure how I missed that.

                              Either way, @Manny_S when will the first scene with the new chair be released? Really hoping this will indeed have a big impact! I do strongly believe that getting those basics right will do wonders. Thanks!

                              Ok @Manny_S regarding your latest video (lenna ross), the very first position of the male actor is standing. As you can see here in this small poll: https://forum.sexlikereal.com/d/8556-how-do-you-view-vr-porn , nobody of the viewers is standing when they put on the headset. So this just results in the model being off, most likely her sinking into the floor. It's going to be much better if you have the male model either sitting in a chair, or lying on a bed. Keep in mind though that there will be much more conformity between chair heights than bed heights, so in my opinion a scene should always start with the male positioned in a chair, just like in that latest Alex Nash video, he did that correctly. Also it's just easier to have the model walk around the male in a chair than the mail in a bed

                              Also that chair position you use is ok-ish (though the male actor is leaning really very much behind, so that's not comfortable at all for us viewers, would be much better if the actor wouldnt need to bend backwards so much) but then the problem is that the female actor climbs onto this block. This just results in her floating in the air. The chances that we viewers have an object of that size and shape in front of us is minimal. So most of the times this just results in her floating in the air, which again kills immersion.

                              Again, all this can be improved if you just think: how are our viewers positioned when they watch and if you assume that there are no objects in front of them. So dont let the actress climb onto something, because we viewers most likely wont have such object in that exact position.

                              It's quite simple actually but this WILL really improve the video's! Keep it up! You guys came a long way and I'm sure you can even get much better, I believe in you!

                              11 days later

                              It might just be me but I find getting a good angle with PT missionary to be a big challenge. I'm usually planking over a fleshlight and trying to line things up. Quest 3

                                RealTime taking some time to configure the hotkeys for specific image adjustment options was a game changer for me personally. Makes adjusting a scene easy and instantaneous without having to open the image settings

                                  The newest passthrough video was disappointment: https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/meet-mitzi-x-49966

                                  I become so frustrated because so much wasted potential. Where was the intimacy? Teasing part was ok, but it could have been so much better. Where is the kissing, let the girl be even closer. Girl can just sit close and talk/touch etc, no need to perform something all the time.

                                  Patience is the key and build the sexy feeling. It is ok if girl does not speak english, she can speak her own language (flirting way of course). Look at the JAV videos for reference. It is actually better if she does not speak and repeat the normal english porn bullshit: "Oh your dick is so big, I am so horny etc"

                                  Please stop foot fetish, there is minority who likes it and it is out of normal filming time.

                                  You don't have to agree anything I said previously. This could have been ok video but then you ruin it. Is it too low bitstream, too hight compression or what, but you could see stripes of same colour when streaming this video. This effect ruins smooth skin colour 🙁 How could this video be immersive if you could see "skin stripes" all over girls body? Please have the checklist to avoid these mistakes. Why to even bother filming if you sabotage your end result like this?

                                  I have become fan of VRLatina, they have nice models and know hot to do this. I prefer watching them with AI Alpha than these videos with potentially better Alpha packing. So sad... how long we have to wait to get even 9/10 passthrough videos? We go on step further and get two steps backwards.

                                    Picouser SLRO appears to be lacking a lot in quality control. Just when we thought these compression and focus issues were resolved, they're back again.
                                    Unless it's an older scene shot with these issues and released now, it doesn't make sense.
                                    And if it's an older scene, why not mention it in the video description so that we are more understanding of the reasoning.
                                    We know the effort that goes into each and every scene. But with this end result after having seen it solved earlier, it is disappointing to say the least.

                                      Yeah what happened to that latest video? It completely lacks details again, just when all that seemed solved !?!

                                      I think the biggest problem with all VR porn is that the people making it don't watch VR porn ever.
                                      I'm guessing if you are on a porn set all day for a job then the last thing you want to do is go home and watch porn.
                                      Somehow they need an experienced VR porn watcher to have one on one communication with them. I'm sure they could find people on here that would talk to them on the phone to tell them what it looks like to us the viewer.

                                      Not forum texted comments but a real 30 minutes talk about what us the viewer like and dislike and why. Why something is so important through the headset.
                                      I truly don't think they watch any of it.

                                        AsianSexVR started making videos 2 months ago. He started out with the camera too close but after just a month he had it lined up perfectly.
                                        He fixed so many things so quickly by what I assume is watching back what he shot.
                                        If you haven't watched any of his scenes you should because they are pretty good.
                                        P.S. I don't watch them in PT but I am guessing they line up really good