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doublevr I'm beginning to seriously consider VR content creation. I love the technical achievements of SLR but like many others, I've been feeling the lack of quality content with only a handful of studios hitting the marks with scale, camera position, lighting and performance. With a background in film and photography, and a lot of experience watching VR content, I'd really like to give it a shot. I'm trying to figure out a camera set up. The Canon system's IPD seems to be too far off and the only other cameras I'm seeing with decent IPD is Kandao and ZCam offerings. I'm curious what studios like POVR use. I've noticed lately SLR originals sense of scale is a little all over the place and nothing has made it more obvious than AI passthrough constantly requiring adjustments to horizontal spacing to try and fake the scale. Any info on technical specifics would be great.

I really want to make content with a good sense of scale for the majority of users and focus on high quality naturalistic lighting and plausible scenarios for performers.

      doublevr Thanks. Lol "Whine-gang?" Guess I wasn't reading all the comments all that closely, but that's not my job haha. There's a lot about the SLR originals I like and a few things I could criticize, but it would be just my opinion, for whatever it's worth. Is there a good place to suggest actresses I think SLR should hire? There are a few that I would love to see in SLR Originals, but I'm not a promoter. Ivy Ireland, Addison Vodka, both incredible and should featured A LOT going forward.

          doublevr There is some marketing 101 rule of thumb that predated social media that when a consumer has a bad experience they tell 7 people on average about it and when they have a good experience there is a one in three chance they tell one person about it. Social media just made it worse by making it easier to complain. The current survey results above reflect that. There is no way the consensus across the spectrum of your clients feel like SLR isn't continuously making overall improvements. So I am glad you pay more attention to the figures than the loudest fringe of subscribers.

          I have owned a sub to every other major studio at this point and SLR is way better than the second best (POVR) and that is largely due to your advancements with DeoVR and PT. I have contemplated just canceling my other subs because your PT AI has ruined my enjoyment for all non-PT.

          I do wish there was more SLRO and SLRO AR. As someone else stated SLRO was in peak form in '23 and with AR particularly around September. Your Sisi Rose SLRO AR PT has to be my most watched scene in VR.

              Metamucil thx. Really good point.
              Our content lobby gets strong now. Let's see how it goes with the new releases probably coming to life around Aug/Sept. Help them God.

              I'm more on tech side. We are getting really strong pipeline for the 2nd half of a year.

                  Metamucil That's a good point. I voted "Worse" based almost solely on comparing 2024 SLRO's to 2023 SLRO's, but really even though this years new releases aren't as good as last years were we still get to watch all those 2023 releases on top of the new stuff.

                  Also even though they've lost wankz and swallowbay they've gained some new cool studios like Upclose and Massaged.

                  and of course the AI scripts and passthrough are new also since i joined.

                  So i'm changing my vote to Better.

                    As5m0deu5 I like something along the lines of a sensual/GFE buildup

                    I have said this before on here. And we can't be the only ones.
                    IF you look at GFE videos, they almost always get high numbers. But SLR shoots Step videos 10 to 1 vr GFE.

                    I have never seen a 1 on 1 wife video by SLR EVER How is this possible? I guess when they are sitting around thinking of the next scene they always think it needs some crazy idea. I don't get into the crazy "never going to happen to me" scenes.

                    I want a loving REAL LIFE interaction. It least every once in a while.

                        rerun119 I think the stepsis/stepmom setup is a carry over from 2d porn. I could be wrong, maybe people are just super into their step relatives, but personally i only ever watch those scenes when it's a girl i like.

                          doublevr
                          A little late to the conversation, but jumping in to throw in my 2 cents.

                          I got a lifetime SLR membership about a year back, and no regrets. At the current 800$ price for the full bundle, it's a bargain taking into account what I get.
                          It also has not gone unnoticed from recent threads that SLR staff take pride in making sure they 'do right by their lifetime members.' When you look at the overall offering, direction of the company, and the staff's appreciation for lifetime subscribers, it's a no-brainer.

                          Now, my take on the original prompt above.... SLR today looks very different from the SLR we had in 2023. And there is a mixed bag here.

                          Strengths

                          1. Platform Tech. The SLR platform is unmatched on the tech side. No other studio offers the integrated offering that SLR has. Over the past year, we've seen SLR roll out the AI scripts, multi-axis, PT, and AI PT. With SLR drive and Miles High Club on the way.

                          2. Platform Usability. Similarly, no other competitor comes close to the seamless playback that SLR offers, with turkey functionality for scripts.

                          3. Community engagement from SLR Devs on the forums, as well as a direct line of feedback/engagement with content products.

                          Opportunities

                          1. Content Library. Some studios left, but other new ones joined. Even with the major studios that left though, the overall content library remains huge, higher than any other site.
                            However, the rapidly evolving nature of VR tech is a headwind here. Content becomes obsolete fast. While I realize there are different perspectives on this, personally, I only really want to see content shot with the latest equipment and the best lenses. Content more than 1-2 years old, or from studios that use sub-par equipment, just isn't as compelling.

                          2. SLRO production. No need to beat a dead horse on this one. SLR has already acknowledged this and is working on it.
                            What I do want to add here.... It is really really important to establish a healthy in-house pipeline of content. As you stated, @doublevr , your focus is mostly on the platform side. However, even if you build a strong platform, it's not necessarily a recipe for success.
                            We've seen this play out with Netflix and the streaming wars. Content providers pulled out and silo'd their content. Which is why we see Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, Apple, all bankrolling exclusive content. We're seeing the same phenomenon here with studios leaving and big content producers (vrbangers, czechvr,...) steering clear of the SLR platform.
                            As you noted, the drop in SLRO content did not affect new user numbers. But I suspect in time, it will affect retention (as we saw with Netflix).
                            I don't want to give critical feedback, without also offering ideas for potential solutions. As you noted, there is a shortage of directors. Unfortunately specialized talent shortage doesn't typically fix itself, and requires a dedicated strategy. Consider the following:
                            a. In-house growth path. Can you build a training or mentorship path to offer to interested existing employees to grow toward and transition to a director role? Amazon is known to employ this with distribution center workers, offering training opportunities to get into high tech development roles.
                            b. White glove partnerships (ie 2nd party content) . While not exactly an SLRO boosting strategy, this may help improve the quality of content. We've seen this methodology used in tech companies to prime app stores with content. The idea here is to have an employee work hand in hand (ideally onsite) with a content producer to help them get the most of the SLR platform. From getting video optimized for the SLR platform, learning to use SLR analytics, but even camera setup and techniques.
                            c. Break the problem down further. I am not quite sure I fully understand why exactly directors are so hard to find? Why is it such a specialized role? The project management skills will be common to other roles. Is it the technical side? Understanding of the lighting/ operation of 3d cameras? Can we identify what the blockers are? If this can be refined and understood, it may be possible in the long term to generalize the role by filling the gaps via processes and tooling.

                          3. Marketing. I think I commented about this a while back - SLR has a marketing problem. But I have some more thoughts on this now that I want to expand on. First of all, I'm glad to hear you are looking to re-vamp your community outreach. SLR does not have good name recognition, that needs to be fixed for the platform to grow.
                            This is important because if the user count grows, SLR's leverage as a platform also grows, and it will become a lot easier to solve the content problem.
                            Here are a few ideas and things to consider with respect to this:
                            a. There is a lot of opportunity to convert 2D adult users to VR users. Since SLR is currently the front-running platform among it's competition, a perspective new adult-vr user will likely choose SLR. Consider running ads on 2d adult sites like pornhub.
                            b. Make it easy to see the best SLR has to offer. A new user is going to want to see what you can offer before giving you a credit card. They will poke around on your site and look at the 'Free' section, which is out of date. I would suggest putting up at least two recent full length videos (1 PT and 1 VR), each with scripts. And update these yearly. (similar to what CzechVR does). Give perspective buyers a free sample of the very best content and capabilities you can offer, and it's going to sell itself.
                            c. Make it easy for perspective subscribers to get their foot in the door. Offer a 'free' trial. 14 day streaming-only trial for only 1$.

                              netcat
                              Wow, I mispelled turnkey as 'turkey'. That's what I get for writing this up so late at night.

                                I say it again: I am very happy with this site; for me I will never be able to exhaust the treasures; but my fear: I have a lifetime subscription and I would not like the number of downloads from 30 every 6 days to decrease

                                netcat I would suggest putting up at least two recent full length videos (1 PT and 1 VR), each with scripts. And update these yearly.

                                I haven't looked at the free stuff in years but this makes a lot of sense

                                  netcat
                                  Thank you
                                  for such a detailed feedback and your suggestions.
                                  We'll definitely update our free videos library as soon as possible.

                                    It's hard to argue that that the content hasn't gotten worse in recent months, or at least that good content hasn't gotten more sparse, but I think it's clear there's been a lot of thought in addressing that. It's also pretty hard to argue that SLR isn't the best site around in terms of the range of content on offer, as well as user experience by a fairly wide margin, ie. streaming, integrated haptics and AI passthrough. Fuck...try using Playa for example. That said, there seems to be more and more ghetto shit lately and less that I actually want to watch - but it's cool it's all there for folks that dig it.

                                    I've come and gone over the years and am currently on an annual subscription. I have my complaints but I actually think SLR is better than it's ever has been and am excited to see where it goes. I believe there's passion about what they're doing. Stay the course. Need more Maddy May vids.

                                    Just editing to add that some of the recent OGs have been awesome and I, for one, have had no trouble finding unhealthy amounts of porn to watch. 🙂

                                    rerun119 If I'm being as real as possible, being 100, I think there is a very real strain of consumers, perhaps 20-25% of VR porn consumers, who want an experience that mimics real intimacy to turn them on. This could possibly be combined with sexual content but also possibly just be a virtual experience of non-judgmental acceptance and affection (which could easily be misconstrued as love.) From what you've posted, you sound a lot like me and I think we are in agreement!

                                    There are a lot of people out there who probably believe they have a "step"family kink because the only kind of emotional intimacy they have ever known has been with a family member. The idea of being emotionally intimate with a stranger is so foreign to their personal experience that it impedes physical arousal in other scenarios. Perhaps this is an opportunity for the rise of a more gentle and sensual niche in VR porn that can be explored in the future to help certain lonely people realize their worth and find soulmates. There are sensual/GFE genres along those lines that could meet this need.

                                    But honestly, at most, I hope/expect this will lead to a better brand of step-porn. And if it is hot VR POV-Creampie content, I will be satisfied. To which I say yippie-kai-yay! Bring on the tantalizing smut and I will say no more.

                                      So the poll has been removed...

                                      Honestly at this point just shut down the forum.
                                      If you are censoring messages without good reason (like really, what about my msg required it to be removed?)
                                      And now not allowing public polls (I even had voters public) because you don't like the outcome.

                                      This is laughable and diminishes the entire forum as a whole, great job.

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                                        • Post #65

                                        adinihsan The VRB infection is no joke, but you gotta hand it to them. SLR might delete posts they don't like, just like VRB, but at least they did one thing better: they honor freedom of speech by allowing one whole thread "SLR Party Riots" where you can say whatever you want. Just keep it clean and positive in the other threads 🤫