• LittleCapriceVR.com Studio

I agree that cutting off comments altogether feels like going a little too far. I also agree that the post processing is too much and I usually upvote comments instead of replying myself. Moving comments off the platform seems illogical to me, in mails or the forum there is not directly any context to a scene. So context needs to be added too, which for me just adds to the hurdle of giving any feedback.

LittleCaprice

    pulsaralto thanks for sharing your thoughts, but what @ableman said also makes sense. For every 10 people who enjoy a video, there might be one or two who don't, and it's sometimes not possible to please everyone.

    It is, however, ultimately the studio's decision on how they would like to receive feedback. The nature of any type of viewing content is that majority of users who enjoy the content simply watch it without any additional interaction, with some exceptions who leave a nice comment. When it comes to negative feedback, the easiest thing to do is to leave a message.

    With that said, please refrain from arguing against the decision. There are always multiple factors and a thought process behind every action taken. Writing an email with constructive feedback is just the matter of copy pasting the link to the video, along with your thoughts on it

      Could've ignored the comments and moved on. Turning off all comments seems like a bit of an over-reaction if you ask me...

      ableman for one the post processing shadow lighting / sharpening is too high radius and gives everything a glow. you guys could tone that down a bit.

      I agree, they look over-sharpened. Not perfect by any means, but still much better than the older videos.

        Hairsational you previously complained about missing guidelines, let's review your message:

        What good will come out of your comment about overreacting? In what way was that statement constructive? How is that comment going to improve the overall situation, or make anyone feel like they've gained something from this interaction? On what basis have you concluded that there weren't any prior efforts to ignore comments?

        Even though you provided positive feedback about improvements with sharpness, you started off with a very negative tone. It's not against any rules to share your opinions but you're not being nice either, and there are better ways to phrase your points

        @pulsaralto it's partially my bad, although the first part of the message was a response to you, the final paragraph was meant for everyone

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          LittleCaprice I never commented on your scenes except those in this thread. I've been thinking about the decision to disable comments on the site while still encouraging feedback via email. It might give the impression that you prefer to avoid public negative feedback. 🤷‍♂️

          Anyway, I noticed that all your scenes are missing the "Amateur" tag, it's supposed to be just like JackandJillVR or TadPoleXXXStudio. Because honestly, Your content might not align with professional VR standards. But that's okay there's a large audience that enjoys amateur content. Labeling your studio as 'Amateur' could help set the right expectations and potentially reduce negative feedback, as people would understand your focus and style better.

          Most unwarranted neg comments get down voted into oblivion, which shows everyone how out of touch they are. While if constructive criticism, that you may not want to hear, is getting upvotes it can help you see your blind spots and grow. However, I can understand that without a block tool you just want to leave comments off.

          I think more power to the studio to limit the comments of argumentative users would be a benefit. Delete comments / block users / snooze users for 30 days etc. I don't think people generally want to email because 1) it removes some anonymity and 2) it removes the facility to gauge a reaction from other members. I often comment ideas and suggestions in the hope of sparking a debate, because we're all different and what works / doesn't work for me might not be popular. That's the main benefit of comments, to see what more than one person thinks.

          Without more power to the studio to moderate the comments, I totally understand the decision to just disable them.

            Megas_SLR My issue with the lack of guidelines was mostly about the rules being made up on the fly and being enforced discriminately.

            Sorry if you didn't like the tone, I didn't waste any time or energy mulling over precisely which words to use, so maybe it could have been worded better. I'm not sure what the comments were exactly but it's disappointing that now nobody can leave a comment because exception was taken with a handful of what I assume to be mildly critical comments. "Throwing the baby out with the bathwater" if you will.

            vrpicasso Giving the studios the power to outright delete comments would inevitably end up being abused. A more democratic system where enough downvotes get a comment hidden, flagged for review or deleted, in my opinion, is the best approach. Legitimately vile comments would be downvoted to oblivion, while popular comments that a studio might not like would remain.

              Now that it seems that in the forum posts will be micro-moderated under the new rules in terms of good will, tone and choice of words, I am wondering why the video comments seem to be the Wild West and completely unmoderated. They are full of rude comments and insults against performers and creators, everyone accessing the website can read them, but still no one seems to care. Maybe some level of moderation of the video comments will prevent creators like LittleCaprice from having to close their comments just because of a couple of guys.

                Hairsational Well at the moment studios can just disable all comments. If you think about how Instagram and other social media sites work, the entity making the post should have more control over the comments, if only to stop them turning comments off. We could perhaps have a thread for each studio here (like this one), which is moderated by SLR, if you feel your voice is being censored.

                  SchnuppiLilac not micro-moderated, I popped in to provide directions on how to navigate the conversation in a constructive and polite manner. At the end of the day, it's still a studio's statement vs. user feedback, and getting a potential repeat of the negative comments of similar type here wouldn't have made the situation any better.

                  Still, your comment about video moderation is a valid point (and concern), we're looking into it

                  Also @Hairsational gotcha, appreciate the additional context. Still, an assumption can't paint the full picture on all sides but I get what you mean

                  Sometimes a thumbnail won't catch my attention, but i'll see that it has a lot of comments so i'll click on it to see what people are talking about. If they are saying a lot of good things about the scene i'll end up giving it a try even though i otherwise never would have even clicked on it.

                  SchnuppiLilac
                  Better scene comments moderation totally makes sense, thank you for highlighting it.

                  vrpicasso
                  We are going to implement additional functionality for studios to hide/remove insulting comments.

                  My team will get in touch with Little Caprice to resolve current comments issue asap.

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                    I agree with the idea of removing outright insults, but I also think studios' decisions should be moderated. They might just delete anything negative, so maybe they could flag a comment they want removed and let SLR mods decide. For example, a comment like, "The filming is very unprofessional; bad angles, camera feels like it's on the stunt cock's belly, gives giraffe neck vibes, no structure in the positions, amateur storylines, poor eye contact like she's looking at someone behind the camera, and the scenes are way too short compared to the standard 45 minutes," shouldn't be removed. However, I believe most studios would get rid of such comments if they had the power.

                    I always check comments before watching a scene, and if someone flags any of these issues, it might make me reconsider watching. The current rating system on SLR isn't very helpful since we only have a "Like" button. People don't only decide based on popularity and the number of likes, on whether to watch a scene or not, so comments, especially negative ones, are very important

                    When it comes to what you consider insults, I don't think saying things like "I hate plastic looks," "Older women are ugly" or "This girl isn't attractive", should count as insults. This is a porn forum, and we're here to rate models' bodies based on our tastes. We're the consumers, and we have a right to give feedback on their looks, performance, and acting. Trying to silence this kind of feedback make it anti-consumer. This isn't social media; it's a porn site, and models are judged based on their appearance and performance.

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                      I think it comes down to what the intent behind the comments feature is. Is it:
                      (1) A communication channel from the viewer to the studio to surface feedback.
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                      (2) A forum for users to discuss/rate the content between themselves and for other consumers.

                      The way it's implemented today, it seems to be (1). In which case it would make sense to give the creator full control on deletion of individual comments and blocking of users. I get what @clayt is saying though, if someone takes the time to write out thoughtful feedback, that would benefit others as well. And it would be unfortunate if that was removed.
                      But ultimately if the purpose is (1), that should be the studio's choice. That way the studio can take as much or as little feedback into account as they choose. This is inline with how other platforms handle moderation (ie Youtube). It also creates a greater sense of 'ownership' of their channel on the SLR platform, paving the way to other benefits down the line.

                      I suggest that if any comments are deleted, this should be visible on the commenter's private comment history page (with an optional reason from the studio). That way there is a feedback loop - the commenter would know what aspects of the comment the studio was not receptive to. And may help them deliver feedback in a more constructive way in the future, or avoid that studio altogether.

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                      [deleted] "The filming is very unprofessional; bad angles, camera feels like it's on the stunt cock's belly, gives giraffe neck vibes, no structure in the positions, amateur storylines, poor eye contact like she's looking at someone behind the camera, and the scenes are way too short compared to the standard 45 minutes," shouldn't be removed.

                      I'd say if phrased like that, maybe a comment should be eligible for removal? When a scene is posted, that front page including comments are the studio's storefront, and it would be rude to shit on every aspect of the work in such an abrupt and unconstructive manner. Instead, such comments could be A) written more sympathetically and B) contained within a dedicated studio thread on this forum so everyone's voice is heard but the studio doesn't feel like their scene / livelihood is being attacked. Giving studios the ability to moderate comments would make us all reconsider how we interact directly in scene comments.

                      If the studio decides to remove a scene comment, then I would suggest the comment is marked as "removed by studio" instead of just disappearing. At least this way a studio would only remove inappropriate comments, and not helpful suggestions - otherwise they would look tyrannical. If you look at a scene and every comment is "removed by studio" that would deter viewers so studios would I think not be too heavy handed. And like I said I do think that a separate dedicated thread for each studio on this forum, moderated by SLR not the studio, would be a helpful in allowing all voices to be heard without making the studio feel like they're having to fight constant battles to protect their work.