Hairsational As a viewer i’m not interested in if he’s a reliable performer. Just feels weird looking down as a jacked older dude and his dick is smaller and doesn’t seem in proportion to his bod. I want to see hot girls taking big dick, it is porn after all..
Alex Nash here. I'd love to hear your suggestions and feedback on the latest.
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In my opinion its all about immersion and imagining you are in the scene with the girl.
A guy like Strong has a cock that is not too way out there (either too thick where it looks too fat like a friggen zucchini or a way too long like a telephone pole) where you can't relate.
And when a cock is way too fat or long a good blow job isnt nearly easy for the girl to perform.
My biggest suggestion over anything else is mastering the consistency of immersion with proper angles and distances when doing mutliple positions but primarily laying and seated CG since these are the two positions most viewers are in when watching VR.
SomeJAV has really seemed to nail this and I wonder what cues or training they use to keep it so consistent.
SLRO examples of this is Neural Link with Mellisa Stratton both in seated and laying CG, EuroTrip step sisters with Kama Oxi in seated cowgirl (this is perfect distance and angle where we feel as if you are right there with Kama as you gaze into her eyes), and Stress relief with Venus Vixen.
My suggestion would be:
Study the angles and distances and have the girls practice the perfect distance and angle on a 'dry run' for both seated and laying CG. Then maybe have a 'quality assurance guy' watching in realtime and directing whether she is in optimal position or not by a green light (perfect viewing angle/distance), yellow light (coming slightly out of optimal range), or red light (out of optimal viewing range). The light would be above and behind the male or even better a small light in between the dual cameras of the rig so the girl would never lose eye contact.
I think this is potentially a not too complex way of making the process easily repeatable and consistent.
Consistently being able to gaze into the eyes of the girl you are fucking while also being able to see her simultaneously going up and down on your cock takes VR immersion up a whole nother level.
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@alexnash There has been a lot of talk here of change needed on SLR and VR Spy here lately !
I personally disagree with this entirely - After about 8 months of image quality being absolutely appalling due to the Canon Fiasco, i personally feel that you have now got everything sorted image quality wise and most of the releases have been amazing recently both on SLR and VR Spy over the past few months - Why change what finally works ? It was so hard to get to this point of quality !
The talk of bad or boring settings / environments from users is laughable - the settings are perfect, high class and beautfiul and to say a pitched tent type scene that probably cost $20 is a good option just makes me cringe, WankzVR used to film in closets and garages and shit that i hated as it just felt grimey and flea infested.
The subject of John Strong being used so much is obviously subjective, but for me it's a guarantee of quality similar to @alexnash being the best ever VR Poducer. if this changes for me then it will probably go down hill very fast - Just carry on creating amazing scenes and ignore the haters who aren't fans anyway and will always find fault as they don't like your style.
I even remember John Strong from one of the best periods of porn ever working for 'Redlight District' and other male talent / producers Erik Everhard, Mike John, Jake Malone, Manuel Ferrara, Michael Stefano, Vince Voyeur just to name a few - Now that was an amazing set of talent that came from a single studio - I'd love to see what those guys could have done with VR, i loved those guys as they has personality and the gonzo style was perfection.
Unfortunately most of these directors moved to Jules Jordan after some sort of fallout and were never the same as the cameras / lighting were dogshit and the perfomers were not for me.
Anyway, there are other producers on SLR, and as these users seem to hate @alexnash so much, why don't you ask them to make changes to their productions rather than spoil it for those who actually like his work.
I know this will upset the 'pitch forkers' but i honestly don't care anymore
@alexnash I'm telling you now mate - you are going down in history as 'the' pioneer of VR porn and how good it used to be before the lefties ruined everything.... not kidding !
One question though ... are John Strong, Alex Nash, and doublevr / Alex Novak the same person also probably other pseudonyms to propergate postive reactions ?... ponder at you're own leisure !
Edit: i forgot to mention every year you produce / direct all of my favourite VR scenes, please don't change for the sake of a few users that don't even like your style - You are simply the best VR director ever
Silly-Sausage yeah we need to not throw out the baby with the bathwater here.
Certain things are working great. We need to correctly identify what those things are and keeping them working great and not change them. On the same token figure out what really would be a value add to improve and then focus entirely on improving it.
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PaulBlart yeah we need to not throw out the baby with the bathwater here.
I don' t believe a word you say, you are trying to come across as the good guy but you will ruin it for all of us, even though you hate @alexnash and will never like his work no matter how much he changes.
You just want to ruin anything that brings anyone joy - Welcome to the UK
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Adrianvr absolute shit forum - edit !
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Adrianvr totally
SLR is taken over by the blue haired brigade - don't trust these people ffs they are going to ruin everything that worked
I'm being positve about the best VR director ever and you indirectly attack me, duly noted my friend
Silly-Sausage I completely agree that Alex Nash’s content is excellent and that he is an outstanding director. However, we also need to remain open to exploring innovative ideas. I did not want to make you upset.
Jimmyjon66 I want to see hot girls taking big dick, it is porn after all..
I do not want to see this. I want it to be a normal dick. You can argue that maybe John Strong's dick is not normal to you but it's about the closest to average size male dick there is.
Huge dicks is a fetish. It changes the whole scene into the girl saying "your dick is too big", "fuck me with your giant cock" plus they can't suck it.
It becomes not my dick but me watching someone else.
Any plans to book more mature actresses? Shay Sights, Dana Vespoli, Texas Patti, Syren De Mer, Dee Williams etc. I and many others are big fans of spit/drool into the viewer's mouth and Alex's content has been amazing, but I feel like the demographic of fans who want to see more MILFs do this hasn't been served yet. Recently had Jennifer White in a scene and that was great! So I hope that continues but also don't sleep on the 50+ MILFs like the ones I mentioned! Most have recently done some VR scenes as well I'm sure they'd love to work with Alex!
rerun119 I know VR is all about immersion, but I think you need to re-examine your psychology if you’re really watching vr porn thinking this dick is my dick
Jimmyjon66 If you AREN'T thinking that then you aren't enjoying this stuff nearly as much as the rest of us. With a couple THC gummies, a good hands free handy setup + script, and a good imagination i can make VR porn feel reallllllly close to real.....at least as far as direct penis stimulation goes. Especially for blowjobs.
But i'm actually with you on the big dick stuff, so long as the girl can handle it or even better if she's a size queen. I like when their eyes flutter and their legs shake when they go deep like they can barely handle it.
I don't like it at all though when they get a girl that just can't handle it and they end up using half thrusts for the entire scene. It makes the AI scripts kinda crappy for those scenes.
HughMungus Yeah that’s fair. Exactly when they can take a big cock, they are the hottest videos.
Jimmyjon66 Why are you watching POV if you don't even try to think it is you? I'm going to assume you are in the minority on this one. I'm pretty sure that is the whole point of POV.
I see you just started on this forum so maybe VR porn is all new to you. If so I think your view of VR will change over time.
Do you watch NON-POV videos?
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rerun119 HA no mate and i guarantee Ive watched more Vr videos than you. Been watching for years. I just said that has I’m not deluded, but I still love the immersion. I just wanna see hot sluts taking big dicks, not some jacked older dude who’s soft a lot of the time and hardly has an impressive dick at all.
Jimmyjon66 After the PT-magicians made removing the body an option this stopped being a problem for me.
I don't mind John Strong. He's been around for years. He's a porn classic. I can't even identify the male actor in any scene anyway.
I agree with PaulBlart's post about cowgirl, the importance of proper distance. and JAV's consistent superiority in this area. Keep trying to hone that in.
Alex your passthrough scenes are fire. My only complaint is the duration of some of the BJs. For example, the at the start of the Demi Hawks scene it felt like she sucked my dick for about five seconds before the position changed. Same with Melanie and Vanessa's laying BJ. Felt like less than 30 seconds. I like VR bjs about as much as VR cowgirl which is a lot.
@alexnash i love your recording and would love to see you guys do some 69 like they are doing in asiansexvr, it is by far my favorite vr position please make this happen!
stst12 agree that Nash seems to get it. Get whatever “step” business you need to in the opener and then transition to brother, sister, daddy, mommy dirty talk. SLR has gotten much better over last year with it… you are also good. Demi Hawks is a great example of perfectly executed dirty talk. Would love an impregnating scenario too.
n0den also agree…your focus on premium talent like Chanel, Melody, Melanie is great. I would add Nicole Kitt as a must have since it’s so rare to see black talent in passthrough. Would love to hear them all in taboo daddy scenarios as well or at least dirty talk.
I’d also love to see some horror like the latest Parasited series featuring Lexi, Melody, Blake etc. - to see stars possessed and becoming cum starved demons…very hot.
The mish scenes are getting harder and harder to watch because of how propped up the girls are on all those pillows. Nothing looks correct. In close mish if there is another girl she is way down by the pillows. Plus close mish is not good because everything is in the wrong place.
Regular mish is getting just as bad. No one on earth has picked up a girl (for some reason it's always a first time with the girl) and stuck 5 pillows under her. Anything you do in VR translates to the viewer. So if it would be weird IRL then it looks weird in a VR headset.
Here are 2 recent scenes I watched. Both don't have the pile of pillows and looked way better. No problem with the stunt cock fucking them.
Why does @alexnash do this?
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/show-white-mirror-mirror-50066?t=2515
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/busty-mion-hazuki-56279?t=2142
rerun119 tbh i think that first scene might be a bit of an optical illusion because it looks to me like she IS propped up quite far on one of those wedge-shaped sex pillows, but because they have a white sheet over it it kind of looks like a normal pillow on a bed. That being said that looks like a pretty good angle and i've always been a fan of the Wankz/MilfVR missionary angles.
Maybe the problem with other scenes is having the camera too close to their face? With the medium distance in that Jenifer White scene i can just zoom the camera in if i want a closer view and it still looks fine, but in other scenes when they put the camera too close i can feel a bit cross-eyed and if i zoom out it ends up looking weird.
HughMungus I think at this point every other studio does mish better than SLR.
To be honest I was watching scenes and thinking how much better they all looked. Then the next day I went to write this. I couldn't remember which scenes I watched. I figured they are all better than SLR.
rerun119 Yeah unfortunately SLR is still mostly using the close up angle that simulates your face being about 4 inches away from the girls face even though if you look down your body appears to be 5 feet away. It's like i'm roleplaying as a Brontosaurus.
Between that and the director not asking the girls to pull their knees back towards them you end up with a really crappy view for anything other than staring directly into the girls eyes. Eye contact is great in VR, but when it comes at the cost of almost everything else it's not as good IMO
HughMungus It's like i'm roleplaying as a Brontosaurus.
You nailed it
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https://forum.sexlikereal.com/d/9743-attention-vr-directors-look/3
Get the cam closer for upclose Orla, do it like Luisah_ from vrcamgirls!
Mr Nash is trying his best to please every user in existence , the progress bar on his scenes now is shredded into little segments, with each lasting for 1-2 minutes.. Big Thank you Mr Nash, we really appreciate your efforts..
BaDoink and CzechVR use two different approaches for up-close mish that in my opinion give good results. CzechVR position the guy in "push-up" angle, while BaDoink signal to the girl during regular mish to "curl" her body up towards the camera...
LickLock CzechVR position the guy in "push-up" angle
This can look so good. This is how you fuck a girl if you are as close to her face as Nash puts the camera. The problem for Nash is that with pillows your arms are way to far past her body plus your arms are by your hips. Why does he need pillows in the first place?
rerun119 I don't know but Nash's close mish still sucks after all these years. He does pretty much everything else right except that position.
Yeah...sometimes it's too close too nose or focused on chin...Recently last Ivy's SLR's close up was perfect imo, it looks like a literal eye contact.