HughMungus I totally agree. Maybe someone will start a site called LIKEREALSEX and it can be just that.

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    I’ve always defended how closeup missionary is being shot these days, when it comes to not lining up the guy’s hands with the girl’s shoulders. I used to argue that it’s okay because it's technically impossible to make it realistic; like, if they tried, they’d have to cut the actor’s head off.

    This is the first JAV scene I’ve watched in about 8 months, Rei Kamiki from SODCreate. The video quality is still way behind, but the story buildup and camera angles were perfect. The close-up mish was super so immersive because it was shot from a realistic angle, by looking down you can see the POV's nipples and his entire lower body thrusting. That scene, and I’m sure there are others, should be something Western studios take notes from. Looking forward to watching more of their scenes!

      [deleted] That link didn't work for me, but i searched her name and i think i found the scene you're referring to.

      That looks like a vastly superior angle for close-up missionary than what SLR typically uses. I don't know why SLR is obsessed with having the girls keep their legs in a starfish position almost flat on the bed for their close-up missionary segments when it just looks soooooo much better in VR when they pull their knees back towards their torso so we can really have a good view of everything.

      I like that it was angled down a bit too because i am taller than most girls IRL so i kind of expect my head to be a bit higher up than hers in that position so it makes it feel more realistic and it makes it so i can see almost everything without needing to look way down to see the action and then way back up to see her face

        [deleted] CzechVR has been doing it for a long time, but all the other Western studios are still clueless when it comes to close mish. I've tried to tell SLR several times before too but it always fell on deaf ears.

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            Sorry about the broken link, couldn’t go through the hassle of asking the mods to fix it. So here you go, posting samples from 4 sites latest releases for science. You can clearly see how perfect the angle is in that JAV scene, when you look down, the whole body is in the frame.

            Again about SLR Nash’s approach of just having John stand there without even trying to get him on top of her, the only reason I defended it was because I thought it was the only way. Now that it’s been proven otherwise, I’m not on that side anymore..

            Sodcreate (JAV) / SLR

            WankzVR / CzechVR

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              Hairsational True in a way; according to the example above, CzechVR is the closest to that JAV missionary. But they still cut the male’s body, so it’s not quite on par with it. SLR is definitely the worst when it comes to male body alignment, but they still have the best the camera placement. It’s exactly where it should be: just above her face, as close as possible for maximum detail and intimacy.

                  The other problem is that in regular mish Nash now puts a bunch a pillows under the girl. This looks wrong too. Lazy firming.

                  jojo321 I don't know how Wankz was so far ahead of the game with their missionary angle and somehow the other studios haven't been able to replicate that. Those scenes are 3+ years old and their missionary is pretty much perfect.

                    [deleted] Hard for me to pick a favorite there, but they all have a better view of the girl and a better body alignment for the guy than the SLR angle.

                    SLR's angle is good for eye contact though, so there's that.

                      I love jav, czechvr's, Nash's and John Strong's closeup missionary angles.

                      To me the biggest difference is that the SLR camera placement is closer to the face which makes it feel very intimate (and I love that).

                      I think they capture different closeup missionary positions:
                      Jav/Czechvr (and other studios): guy is hovering on top

                      • easy to appreciate the performer's assets
                      • fantastic body alignment

                      Nash/John strong (SLR): guy is literally on top, full body contact, and ready to go in for a kiss at any moment.

                      • easy to appreciate facial expressions
                      • legendary eye contact

                      I personally would love to see both angles and get rid of regular/far-away missionary shots (in my opinion).
                      I can't pick one angle because it depend on the mood (see assets jiggle or get lost in the performers eyes) 😅

                        [deleted] Thanks for great the examples. Hopefully this illustrates to SLR how it can be done better.

                        I think SLR's position a bit too close for minutes at a time. In the JAV one the camera is further out and moves in closer temporarily for the super close up. That's how I'd like to see it done ideally.

                          MickyCheese Nash/John strong (SLR): guy is literally on top, full body contact, and ready to go in for a kiss at any moment.

                          Not exactly – the guy isn't on top, the camera is. When you look down you see that the guy is standing like 1.5m away at the edge of the bed and it breaks the immersion because your reference points (arms, chest, dong) don't align with reality.

                              Hairsational Totally agree, I meant it feels like you are on top with full body contact and looking down seeing the guy standing does break immersion.

                              In my opinion that shot is only immersive if you don't look down and just focus on the performers eyes/face. Still appreciate it very much because I'm in the mood for that 50% of the time.