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Silly-Sausage My confusion: you are claiming you will cancel if Alex Nash continues to shoot milfs and then say people are trying to change him?... how can we change him into something he already is given he has many scenes involving milfs? If you don't know Penny Barber, then there's from the top of my head Pristine Edge, Bunny Madison, Charlie Phoenix, Lexi Luna, etc.

Fair enough you want him to not shoot milfs, it's just confusing to me you are arguing 'we want to change him', when from my perspective that's what you want him to do by never shooting milfs again 🤗

Silly-Sausage diversity vermin

Exactly. Pretty tired of everyone thinking that every site has to cater to every individual taste.

tmynx I counted around 5-6 people in this thread who mention wanting more either MILFs

Wow! 5 or 6 people! That's definitely critical mass that demands change lol

tmynx As OliverDK just stated, NAVR and MILFVR have all been disappointing in the past couple years

Have you considered that that is because, as doublevr said, the limited market for that type of content is already oversaturated, and NAVR/MiLF are failing to make money on it? That's a great reason not to do it here, since we are already hemorraghing subs due to PT nonsense taking over half the schedule.

    Wendigo It's always the fans of petite and teen type of models that push for all in on that, in contrast to fans of the opposing features that would most of the time like to see a balance, which SLR has had (though not always). Before all the directors were purged it was clear certain directors had their own niche so SLR was never focused on teens and petite models only. Perhaps you subbed during that period after Alex Mack left. Why don't you just sub to 18vr, WankzVR, VirtualTaboo (which now focuses on teens), or POVR then or are you just a hypocrite? And you're twisting people's words. Silly-Sausage was for having a balance. And Doublevr was talking about PRODUCTION widely not casting.

      hypertsunaz
      I certainly wouldn't expect SLR to become exclusively Milfs nor do I desire it, but people insinuating there isn't a demand for it are really grasping at straws here. Plenty of metrics to back that up outside of this thread. In the end, variety should win out and I expect it will. It's impossible to please everyone, but I do commend SLR for having more variety in body types than in their earlier years, but there will always be some detractors.

      hypertsunaz Perhaps you subbed during that period after Alex Mack left.

      I subbed in 2020, when SLR booked hot, fit, young talent. I hated every minute of Mack's tenure, and I am overjoyed that he is gone. Should have kept vrfanservice over simsense as well. I don't commend SLR for trying to please everyone, as the quality and number of the things I subbed for decrease all the time. McDonald's has been successful for decades because when you go there, the menu is generally the same (other countries vary from each other, but little variation within countries) and you know exactly what you are going to get at what price. The burger joints that add smoothies and cookies and sanwiches and fried rolls and sushi and yogurt etc etc etc generally sell shittier versions of everything since they can't focus on doing one thing excellently. This is why "quality" is at the top of the list in this post, and niches and cute new tech gimmicks are at the bottom. SLR quality has declined as they have tried to please everyone at the same time.

        Wendigo I subbed in 2020, when SLR booked hot, fit, young talent

        Maybe you have hidden some videos but it is just not true that SLR started off as a teen site (or have ever claimed that they wanted to be). The first performers are all in their 30s now and there were quite a few others following that do not fit this description. OnTheTelly shot mixed age and body types, and so did Alex Mack.

          I get some people want more milfs but plenty don't either. I think slr has a good balance for a non milf site.

          Wendigo but you fail to see that casting (is at the top btw) and quality are not mutually exclusive? Just say you want more content that is catered to you and not beat around the bush with bullshit, it'll be more understandable. It's not the first discussion on this topic, I've seen it multiple times on this forum. Also yeah, that's only the case with the shittier mcdonalds in some countries. I love the limited exclusive and experimental stuff mcdonalds does in countries like Singapore, Japan, etc.

          Solo, lesbian and non pov. If you stick to only pov, you might never attract new subscribers whose tastes are different.

          Wendigo Have you considered that that is because, as doublevr said, the limited market for that type of content is already oversaturated, and NAVR/MiLF are failing to make money on it?

          NAVR started to bleed members when they pushed their pricing structure shenanigans some years ago. Without a doubt they lost countless subs on that and eventually had to pull it back but the damage was kind of done. After that it's been VR free fall and a turn towards 'not shooting milfs' in VR and focus on regular pornstars obviously hasn't turned the ship around in regards to VR as they have kept reducing weekly updates.

          On top of that NAVR has refused to fix thr issues with their setup of a blurry lens. Not to mention they insist on using cockzillas in VR which arguably many VR viewers find unappealing. In other words their VR issues most likely lies elsewhere than milfs not being popular in VR. NA after all build their entire brand on milfs.

          The fact that MilfVR can keep updating with sterile autopilot rinse and repeat scenes and yet still exist, just speaks to me of a lack of serious competition rather than a saturated market.

          The more likelihood imo for the lack of milfs was what one person involved in the industry said a few years back on reddit; high quality milf talents are either under exclusive contract or rather expensive. Furthermore the most popular milfs is in the process of or were retired completely. 'New' milfs to replace them has been in short supply as many of those popular pornstar that reached the right age simply jumped on the Onlyfans, Loyalfans, etc. wagon and won't shoot b/g scenes or again locked in exclusive contracts or very expensive.

          So it's far easier and more importantly cheaper to pump out scenes from a sea of either cheap desperate teens that are trying to make a name for themselves or a high quantity of more popular names that hasn't quite found other pastures yet.

          This was kind of backed by VirtualTaboo that stated a few years ago that milfs/matures indeed were in high asking demand but it got increasingly difficult and expensive to hire them. This answer came ironically from a discussion of why they seemed to shift focus towards teens instead of milfs.

          My point with all of this is that the reason for the lack of milfs/matures in VR are likely found elsewhere than a lack of demand. All of the above could be wrong of course. I can't verify anything as I'm not an expert. I just pick up what I read here and there by insiders and I've also written with high quality talent on Onlyfans and they kind of confirm the above.

          Furthermore I do find it hard to believe that a category that has continuously been represented in the top searches and watch list on free pornsites for over a decade worldwide now, somehow is not in demand in VR. Could be of course, I just doubt it.

            I don't mind a milf scene every once in a while, some of them i even like, but i would prefer most scenes be girls under the age of 30. No offence intended, but i've been getting a little bit jealous looking at Badoinks new releases over the past few months, they seem to be making a more concerted effort to bringing in top talent while here the new releases just seem totally random and often it's girls i've never seen or heard of before.

            OliverDK

            The more likelihood imo for the lack of milfs was what one person involved in the industry said a few years back on reddit; high quality milf talents are either under exclusive contract or rather expensive. Furthermore the most popular milfs has been or were retiring completely or from B/G scenes. 'New' milfs to replace them were in short supply as many of those popular pornstar that reached the right age simply jumped on the Onlyfans, Loyalfans, etc. wagon or again locked in exclusive contracts. So it's far easier and more importantly cheaper to pump out scenes from a sea of either cheap desperate teens that are trying to make a name for themselves or a high quantity of more popular names that hasn't quite found other pastures yet. This was kind of backed by VirtualTaboo that stated a few years ago that milfs/matures indeed were in high asking demand but it got increasingly difficult and expensive to hire them. This answer came ironically from a discussion of why they seemed to shift focus towards teens instead of milfs. My point with all of this is that the reason for the lack of milfs/matures in VR are likely found elsewhere than a lack of demand. All of the above could be wrong of course. I can't verify anything as I'm not an expert. I just pick up what I read here and there by insiders and I've also written with high quality talent on Onlyfans and they kind of confirm the above.

            This makes a lot of sense.

            SchnuppiLilac Well, I didn't say "teen". I said "young, hot, fit". Actresses approaching 30 fit that description just fine. Actresses I've seen requested in this thread that are over 50 do NOT. Actresses with giant breasts that would be somewhat normal size if they lost 70 or 80 pounds do NOT. Actresses with freakish silicone asses, lips, and breasts that defy gravity with the nipples pointing in unnatural ways do NOT. Actresses with more tatoo than skin do NOT.

            I've been watching it for 4 years now - people keep saying "include this or that thing! It's not fair that you don't please me!" and with every new thing they include, the site gets shittier by the day. If they shoot 1 MilF, 1 tatted up model, 1 silicon thing, 1 BBW, 1 passthrough, and one young fit model evey release cycle - and they continue to release 1 or two videos a week, that means I get one video I like every month. Hell, that means everyone gets one vid they like every month. Less, actually, since they insist on releasing a PT every week, and split the other Originals around all the DEI demands. And yes, I've tried PT. Yes, I have a Q3 and a QPro. Yes, it still sucks. No, it isn't immersive. No, it's not the "next big thing". It's a novelty, and like all novelties, the shine rubs off pretty quickly. Yes, I am aware of the "this is only the beginning! The tech will get better!" argument, but that depands on tech being able to accomplish things that it won't for quite a while, and for SLR to exhibit fine-tuning, attention to detail, and top-down quality control that they haven't exhibited in quite some time.

            I didn't sign up for a site that shoots every kind of porn under the sun and includes something I like once in a while. I don't think many people do. You can crow about all the other sites that are included here, but let's be honest - most of them are amateur trash that no one would subscribe to on their own.

              proslr

              More focus on female pleasure and real orgasms.

              More focus on talented actresses or actresses that 100% love sex

              Please tell R&D to look into body haptics

              Make your own sex haptics game with virtual models using real motion capture and sell game on steam. You can do early access, patreon or kickstarter. With your knowledge, tech and resources you have a shot to make THE sex game

              Wendigo VR was a novelty too. But glad you finally just admitted the reason is because you simply want more content catered to your tastes, which is understandable, instead of beating around the bush. I do agree most other studios on SLR are amateur trash, but at the same time you have stuff like VRSpy and PorncornVR that cater to your tastes. Fuckpass and vrhush has a mix maybe. On the other side of the spectrum the MilfVR scenes here are ancient. Haven't seen anyone request in this thread for someone over 50, idk what you're talking about there. SLR never started out as just another studio. It's been a long time since they rebanded to being about sexual wellness too. It was always clear to me that they wanted to do more and push stuff for the last few years. You did sign up for a site like that, but you didn't know it. Sounds like a you problem to me.

                hypertsunaz the reason is because you simply want more content catered to your tastes

                I don't want the amount of content I like to DECREASE. There is a difference there.

                hypertsunaz Haven't seen anyone request in this thread for someone over 50, idk what you're talking about there.

                phyuggene tmynx Also, when I mean MILF I mean women in their 30s and 40s. I think sometimes people associate MILFs with women in their 50s and beyond.

                MILFs I'd love to see with their own SLR scenes would be:
                Ava Addams, Brandi Love, Jewels Jade, Isabelle Deltore, Richelle Ryan, Tiffany Mynx (longshot and probably retired).

                Brandi Love: 51 in a couple of weeks
                Jewels Jade: 52
                Tiffany Mynx: 52

                hypertsunaz You did sign up for a site like that, but you didn't know it.

                Nope. I couldn't care less about any of the other stuff they do - then and now. I signed up for high-quality SLR Originals with the aesthetic they displayed then. I wouldn't bitch about all the other distractions they get involved in if they kept the quality and aesthetic of Originals the same, but they've cannabilized and trashed them to accomodate everything else.

                  Wendigo I'm not just talking about all the other stuff they do but casting as well. You're advocating for the amount of content other people like to decrease or stay as low as it has become, that's the issue hypocrite, because as mentioned before, SLR was never just a young, fit, teen whatever type of studio. You seem to pick and choose which statements to respond to and acknowledge. Look back 4 years ago, and you'll see they were casting a mix, including MILFs like Lauren Phillips, Tia Cyrus, Joanna Angel, LaSirena, Lexi Luna, etc. This was before people started suggesting casting too. Thanks missed that guy's comment. The ONE guy you quoted though, in his first sentence, says he means mostly 30s and 40s and that other people think 50s, those 3 names are there but just outliers who btw aren't active or have exclusivity contracts. It's not even a huge deal, how many 50+ pornstars are there? It's not like they're gonna be casting them twice a month to trigger you. All people are asking for is a good balance like before and my problem with you is that you started telling people to go to other websites but you could do the same as well.

                  We need scenes that don't always feel like I am having sex with a pornstar in a porn movie.
                  That is why people like JAV scenes. They make then look like something you would be really doing around the house. The girl is cooking dinner. Things like that. When was the last time you saw anything close to what JAV does?