Storytime With Jimmy

MrLifestyles After I saw how some of the girls I thought were friends and I liked and always thought were having fun piled on me saying they didn't want to shoot for me anymore online and not to me personally, I mean I would have cleared it up with them if they called me directly or brought it up on set. These are girls I never touched or abused,just joked with.

Absolutely classic abuser monologue. Can't see the power dynamic between director who pays for a model and model who needs that money, blames it all on joking when called out, can't understand why someone who you have power over would try to just take it and get out of there so they still get paid rather than confront you and risk cancelling the shoot (and their paycheck), no sympathy/empathy for the girls you hurt, just a wall of text that sums up to "I'm the REAL victim".

You abused your power and position and are angry and furiously backpedalling when you are called on it. SLR made a good choice in rescinding this offer.

Niteflyte And lastly, I'd point out that the victims of Alex Coal and her partner are being ignored by all the mob members here. Somehow all the people concerned about 'safety' and 'protecting the girls' don't give an ounce of fuck for those girls, and are all over Alex's Twitter sucking her feet. Funny how that works.

Typical false equivalence. Please note that the person who accused Alex Coal posted screenshots of converstaions she had with anonymous individuals criticizing Alex's conduct. No names, no corroboration, no skin in the game. On Alex's side, she had more than a dozen actresses go on the recored with their experiences, and put their reputation and incomes on the line for doing so. On the one side, we essentially have heresay, while on the other we have a preponderance of evidence. You could argue that it is still heresay, but the weight of that evidence increases with the number of independent and not-anonymous corroborations.

Niteflyte beta orbiters

Concern about the ethics and morality of the company you do business with and the entertainment you consume has nothing to do with being "beta". In my experience, the surest indicator of a beta male is calling others beta on social media forums.

Wendigo You just hung yourself with your own words:

Wendigo Can't see the power dynamic between director who pays for a model and model who needs that money, blames it all on joking when called out, can't understand why someone who you have power over would try to just take it and get out of there so they still get paid rather than confront you and risk cancelling the shoot (and their paycheck)

Wendigo Typical false equivalence. Please note that the person who accused Alex Coal posted screenshots of converstaions she had with anonymous individuals criticizing Alex's conduct. No names, no corroboration, no skin in the game. On Alex's side, she had more than a dozen actresses go on the recored with their experiences, and put their reputation and incomes on the line for doing so.

On the one hand you assert that girls have no power and are hesitant to risk things, and on the other hand you say that girls who don't risk things should be disregarded. Pardon me but I don't think you are here out of morality or ethics. I think you're here simply for the drama; Otherwise your own hypocrisy wouldn't be so lost on you.

And assuming that risk has to do with whether someone makes their voice heard, is precisely why "trial by media" is a bad idea. Alex apparently has enough popularity to rally folks behind her to the point where serious allegations against her are swept under the rug. This child-level social behavior has been taking place on schoolgrounds since forever. Popular kids from the in-crowd target an outcast kid, and all the kids in the middle either join-in or allow it to take place for fear of being the next victim and/or for social points with the mob (a la Lord of the Flies).

Leda Bear, Violet October and Jewelz Blu are nowhere near as popular as Alex Coal, so disregard them (and the other girls afraid to put their names out) and their victimization. And that's not enough, give Alex Coal a complete pass in her victimizing. And this from the crowd who are so very highly moral (on this here porn forum).

Wendigo Concern about the ethics and morality of the company you do business with and the entertainment you consume has nothing to do with being "beta". In my experience, the surest indicator of a beta male is calling others beta on social media forums.

And no, there's no beta energy from you. This is alpha. Same way that a man is actually a woman, and when you ask what a woman is, it's "anyone who identifies as a woman", and around and around in a never-ending circle of bullshit.

I agree that this “character” should have ended years ago….but honestly it’s not easy to know when is the right time to change to fit into the latest social zeitgeist. Me Too happened very abruptly. A lot of people who deserved to be punished were punished, but I would argue far more well intentioned people who made small mistakes were punished disproportionately harshly. None of us are perfect. I believe people deserve second chances in MOST(not all) circumstances. I also believe there are a large amount of people, which a poster above alluded to, that will ruthlessly weaponize accusations with a pebble of truth, while leaving out a large amount of context….merely to fuel their own advancement, and without any regard for the sometimes irreversible damage done to the one being accused. That absolutely sickens me and I find it disgraceful. And like lemmings(we’ve seen this countless times), the online cancellation mobs will, compelled by our most primitive, tribal instincts will revel in watching someone’s life being destroyed, discarding any apology or explanation as “not good enough”. Don’t tell me cancel culture doesn’t exist. It’s always existed in some form. It’s current iteration is new and the medium used to inflict the damage is new and incredibly damaging if used recklessly. (It is)

Listen….we all watch porn. I have respect for the actors and people behind the scenes who make it happen. It’s clearly a tough job and I’d hope we all want them to be safe. But why are we putting these people on some kind of moral pedestal here? We have unproven allegations and we have people here and elsewhere giving them the ironclad legitimacy as if it was ruled by a jury. Fact is I enjoy the content. It makes me feel good. I pay for it. Sometimes I’ll pop in and suggest performers I enjoy watching. My engagement ends there. I really don’t want to say much more at the risk of getting banned….but the level of engagement some people seem to have with the opinions of people you don’t know and probably never will to accurately assess any kind of judgement of their character , strikes me as incredibly unhealthy.

That’s all I have to say. I understand why SLR made the decision they did. Pure damage control. Probably the right business move. But I do think this guy deserves a chance at redemption. Leave it to the courts. If it’s not something that the accusing parties are willing to bring to court, then are we even talking about a crime worthy of this type of social punishment?

petermc

petermc It was more than two girls, there’s lots of accounts of unprofessional and predatory behaviour and we have no reason to think those people are lying. These are people who’ve been in porn for years and do not have a reputation for this type of drama.

There are plenty of motivations for lying. Come the fuck on. The main accuser is herself accused of even worse abuse. Where's your concern about that?!

petermc If they are all making shit up, and you’re completely innocent, then I’m sorry this happened to you. I’d rather people erred on the side of caution though in removing abusers from the industry and, if a few people get caught in the crossfire and are collateral damage, then so be it. It’s not like you got a police record or are on some register or something, you just don’t get to make porn anymore.

I sincerely hope that you aren't accused of something one day, denied the ability to earn a living from the career path you've built, and have people saying "oh well sucks for you but gotta simp for poor vulnerable females".

Niteflyte

Niteflyte You just hung yourself with your own words:

It might seem that way if your reading comprehension sucks.

Wendigo Can't see the power dynamic between director who pays for a model and model who needs that money, blames it all on joking when called out, can't understand why someone who you have power over would try to just take it and get out of there so they still get paid rather than confront you and risk cancelling the shoot (and their paycheck),

Did I say that girls have no power, or that there is a power dynamic at play between director and model (boss and employee)? It would be the same if the director was a woman and the model was a male.

Niteflyte Popular kids from the in-crowd target an outcast kid, and all the kids in the middle either join-in or allow it to take place for fear of being the next victim and/or for social points with the mob (a la Lord of the Flies).

Really? This is your take? That Alex is popular and poor Jimmy is the victim? Talk about beta energy.

Niteflyte And that's not enough, give Alex Coal a complete pass in her victimizing.

No one did that. It is, however, a tired tactic in rape/sexual assault/sexual harassment cases to play the "she's no angel" card. People who have behaved poorly in the past are not free targets to abuse in the present. If I once stole something from someone, I still get to file a police report if my car is stolen.

Niteflyte On the one hand you assert that girls have no power and are hesitant to risk things, and on the other hand you say that girls who don't risk things should be disregarded.

I didn't say that, either. What I said was that anonymous allegations carry less weight than identified ones.

Niteflyte Same way that a man is actually a woman, and when you ask what a woman is, it's "anyone who identifies as a woman", and around and around in a never-ending circle of bullshit.

Hoo boy. Get some therapy.

Here is a hint for you: Alphas protect the vulnerable members of their pack. They don't abuse them, or make excuses for others who do. I really can't think of a weaker move.

phyuggene
DING DING DING!!!!
That's some fine detective work.

What normal person (who doesnt work in porn) is gonna put up an actual photo of themselves on a PORN forum lol. That's why my profile pic is a cartoon character and not an actual picture of myself.

Edit:
He even put his name on there; 'Michael Johnson'. Bruh... who would put their actual name as a name of a member in a public PORN forum lol

phyuggene Well, posting someone’s info on the internet without their permission is one. And who puts their real picture in a avatar, on a porn forum? Great work detective.
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