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  • LifestylesVR channel - CANCELED

I see Alex Coal posted something on twitter saying she’d received some severely upsetting and unexpected news that caused her to have a panic attack yesterday and that it would put girls in danger. She never said what it was and the tweet has since been deleted but she has since started reposting stuff about Jimmy Lifestyles so I think we can all read between the lines.

Congrats SLR on making abused women relive their trauma with your “announcement”.

Men who work in the porn industry may have no respect for female performers but you’ll find that a lot of porn fans absolutely do. This isn’t some twitter hearsay, this is multiple women making complaints, refusing to work for a studio and ultimately the person being fired in disgrace. This is the guy you’re partnering with. Shame on you!

    petermc Congrats SLR on making abused women relive their trauma with your “announcement”.

    Thanks for this update. Here’s two contrasting pictures showing direct reactions to the SLR announcement that they intend to ignore Jimmy Lifestyle’s shameful treatment of the women who are the very lifeblood of their success.

    Alex Coal’s reaction. We can’t see it as she removed, but the interactions are sincere as are her responses, which are brave. I see nothing disingenuous about it…

    In sharp contrast, I’m 95% certain the fake account Unamed was created by Jimmy himself yesterday to talk himself and SLR up, while mocking us as self righteous “saints”. He goes on to compare pornstars to whores… to imply that his behavior towards Alex (and the many other women) was in no way out of line. This reaction in contrast to Alex’s above shows cowardice and disingenuousness.

    Let us hope that SLR is starting to get the message that this backlash will only grow stronger and stronger as industry players weigh in, as well as fans who BELIEVE these women.

    Oh and here’s the actual Jimmy: Defiant. Unremorseful. And with the same cadence in his writing and clumsy grammar as Unamed above.

    I have little doubt it was Jimmy in the forum with that fake account. So despicable 🤦🏻‍♂️

      Please read the room. Calling your subscribers "sick" because they universally object to your partnering with an abusive director is such a head-in-the-sand moment it defies belief. No one wants this. It will cause you reputational damage. Setting the bar at "well, he's not in jail" is insultingly low. This isn't a one-off Twitter complaint, it was a widely documented series of allegations from multiple women who have significant sway in the industry. Alienating your subscribers AND your talent is madness. Please consider that your audience is not sick or mentally unhinged but actually cares for YOU and your company as well as your models. This is a decisive moment and your future actions have consequences. I hope you take a moment, don't reply angrily, and just pause, consult others in the industry, especially the talent, before proceeding. Genuinely wishing SLR a bright future, as industry leaders.

      Such a big bummer. I don't follow the industry at all, and just a few minutes of research has left me in shock. Bummer, SLR has been way above any other studio regarding content imo, but there are other studios. I'll miss the scripts but even other studios are doing that now. No way I can reconcile renewing subscription knowing SLR is partnered with a serial predator and SLR's leadership is doubling down despite all the feedback, makes this look all the more alarming and suspect. Won't be renewing my Subscription if this dude has a channel on here, and its clearly a partnership given the fact it's the only studio given attention and y'all specifically speak about helping him set up. I pay for porn b/c I rather pay for content than risk being entertained by another person's oppression or trauma.

      Clearly the subscribers overwhelmingly believe the women who have spoken up (and God knows how many who haven't) abouut the predatory behavior of this sick fuck. These reports aren't just Twitter one-offs, you can easily find in just a minute Emma Hix's account (and many others) and see how clearly she feels violated.

      SLR leadership is not taking into account the hit in lost revenue and the talent that will refuse to work with SLR whether or not Jimmy is an employee or just a contributor. SLR doesn't see it, but this is one of the worst decisions conceivable in this industry. That SLR leadership would stand with him is a solid indicator that they share a disdain of women with that jackhole. They feel that if a woman is doing this for a living, she's trash and is free game to whatever they want to do to them.

      I suppose their SLR's next move will be to post weight loss tips from Jared Fogle and tips on how to pick up chicks by R. Kelly. It disgusts me that a site that purports to be a safe and healthy environment for performers actually just thinks of them as whores.

      Also @doublevr just think about how the comment section below jimmy's video will be. Honestly IF you're going to go through with this (I honestly hope you won't), better disable the comments on his videos. It would be a mess everytime.

      doublevr why Jimmy ? Do you not know that he was accused of assault multiple times by multiple people? He's not a safe person to have on set. Google his name and an entire Jezebel article will come up about it.

        I am in disbelief that you (SLR) are giving Jimmy a channel. This goes completely against your values. To act like you aren’t enabling him because it is his own separate channel is pure lunacy.

        I stand with all of the others speaking out. The models deserve better. You wonder why they are all flocking to OFs. They deserve to be treated professionally and with utmost respect. This will not only have significantly negative impacts on your brand, but it will also hurt the entire VR industry. I’m so disappointed.

        doublevr Opening up investment opportunities to grow faster. A lot could be done. We just need more muscle power.

        Is this why he gets his channel and unwavering support from you guys? If so, he is likely going to have more influence on the brand than you are leading on.

          We are further looking into things to get to a meaningful depth of context. Thx for all the informative posts (few).

          Also it’s important to realize X/Twitter is not a place for prosecution or judgement. It’s a great place to rise awareness. Right now it looks like some staged drama with some expected behavior in place.

          It’s an absolutely wrong way of getting justice as with all the noise and pressure it undermines the whole idea of making sense of things.

          Humanity is doomed if most of the serious stuff gets done via X and other places like this.

          It might have been a perfect case for police or someone. Why not bringing it there? No idea how we should make sense of it. Should we ban people channels because those reports?

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            doublevr Should we ban people channels because those reports?

            Yes. This isn’t a court case. This is a business decision to maintain the integrity of your brand. You established your core values for a reason.

            If you proceed with his channel, you will lose a large portion of your customer base, many models will refuse to work with you (further degrading your brand), and VR’s reputation will take a negative hit, further driving models to produce content in ways they feel safe and have more control over. Meanwhile, the stigma that porn has - the stigma that causes banks to scrutinize your content, members to not join, models to shy away from the industry or retire early - only grows. I thought you all understood this, and that was why you established your core values of being focused on wellness.

            Based off of all of the different accounts of the events from the models, it is extremely unlikely they are making it up. But, even if they were, the perception is still there. It is not worth the risk. If Jimmy wants back in the industry, he can try to start his own company. Don’t compromise yours.

              doublevr
              You're right that Twitter is not a platform to deliver prosecution or justice.

              But it is a place where people can speak about their experience. Whether you believe them (or who you choose to believe) matters, not because it's a legal verdict (since it isn't), but because you're powerful and your decisions matter.

              SLR is a valuable brand and platform. I want it to do well since I think it's the best! But it's clear from this thread that a lot of people are against promoting Jimmy or giving him a platform, which could drag SLR down by association. If what you say is true - that Jimmy just gets a personal channel - you did highlight him in the original post to show that it's something special to promote. (Surely you have other 3rd parties you're thrilled about?)

              So many posts in this thread are alarmed by this part, that there's only tiny bits of discussion in this thread about JAV censoring, BYOJ, etc. It appears that announcing a platform for Jimmy steals the attention from SLR's other important initiatives.

              I fucking love SLR's passthrough; I can't wait for the connectivity upgrades for the Kiiroo Keon. I really want to try BYOJ.

              People aren't discussing the neat things SLR is working on because Jimmy receives all the attention.

              [Edit: and for the record, I believe the women. But even ignoring my beliefs and purely from a pragmatic angle, the excitement for SLR 2024 is muddied by this matter.]

                  wongry and they have spoken. Now you guys are trying to make a court out of it instead of going to the actual one.

                  No idea what stops to get the case right instead of bringing it on me.

                  I guess there's enough of awareness by now to let any performer decide if they want to work with the dude.

                  No idea why are you making this social media shit show instead of submitting a case

                      Alex Coal submitted a statement to the Wankz lawyer - and what happened? Nothing, for 3 years, until her audience found out and demanded action. That's what you get for speaking out in porn, a refusal to act or have accusations taken seriously by the guys in charge - guys like yourself if you ignore every voice that came forward. And yes performers do use Twitter, you can't invalidate their claims because of the platform. Stars like Vanna Bardot, Adriana Chechik, Emma Hix, Emma Starletto, Aidra Fox - at least 12 came forward. Here's an interview, not on Twitter, where Emma Hix talks about her experience

                      After the models came forward, Jimmy released a 10 minute apology and said he would contact individual stars. What does it say about him that this is the apology as it stands now?

                      It's the guys in power who have historically let this kind of behavior continue in porn, to everyone's detriment. You are now the guy in power. Please do the right thing, for your company, your subscribers and the models you profess to care for. This isn't even just a moral decision, the financial and reputational consequences are huge.

                        doublevr
                        I live in another country, I can't bring a case 😆.

                        I'm just saying that SLR is working on some cool things, but people are mostly talking about Jimmy since he's been listed in the plans. 🤷‍♂️

                          It actually makes perfect sense that you brought him in since you both seem to have the same response to people telling you not to do something.

                          Deleted my account yesterday. Feel free to delete me from here too.

                          doublevr No idea what stops to get the case right instead of bringing it on me.

                          Don't give him a platform. Nobody is asking for anything more than that.

                          With the recent director sackings it's perhaps evident why you want him on SLR so bad that you are willing to overlook the mountain of evidence.

                          doublevr I guess there's enough of awareness by now to let any performer decide if they want to work with the dude.

                          There is a constant stream of new girls coming into this type of work who don't have experience dealing with Jimmy the Predator.

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                              Haha, I can't help but chuckle at the whole drama above. It's hilarious and pathetic at the same time! 😂 Honestly, I feel like I've stumbled into some alternate universe where everyone's suddenly a judge and jury.

                              Now, I'll admit, I'm totally in the dark here. This whole Jimmy story apparently happened in a time when I wasn't a forum guy and had nothing to do with this online drama. Back then, I was just happily devouring scenes without a clue who was pulling the strings behind the scenes. So, forgive me if I'm not jumping on the bandwagon, I wasn't born a flunkey, who just follows what the majority say.

                              Till this point and after reading a few of the statements shared above, I'm still firmly planted on the neutral ground. No grudges, no prejudgments against Jimmy, especially since Jimmy's not exactly behind bars... and last I checked, forums and Twitter aren't exactly courtrooms. All we've got to go on are a handful of statements from a few models, not exactly convincing evidence in my book. Feels more like a simp club squabble than a righteous defense of the abused. (shrug)

                              It's giving me serious Depp vs. Heard vibes. Remember that circus? Johnny had the popularity and the fans from the get-go, so it was pretty much game over for Amber, no matter what came out later. Here, though, it's Alex Coal with the devoted following, and her fans seem to have already drawn their battle lines. Jimmy and his crew could probably call Jesus to forgive his sins, but it wouldn't sway anyone. (I'm neutral not defending him)

                              I just wanna end this statement of mine, with a reminder I've mentioned here in this forum before: models need to set their boundaries crystal clear, have a solid agent or agency in their corner, and just live their lives in peace. Boundaries differ from person to person, after all. Like for instance Leah Gotti has made it clear that after set male touching her body was a no-go for her, while others might be more lenient. Take Blake Blossom's after-set video I shared below, for example, that'd set off alarm bells for Leah, but didn't bother Blake.

                              Blake's Tweet

                                doublevr You are at a pivotal moment right now with your company, whether you want it to be or not. You want SLR to be a leader in the VR industry. If you are indeed calling the shots, these are the decisions you have to make that will ultimately decide the destiny of SLR.