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trooowiii People who are anti-passthrough, are you using devices such as the handy that make non-passthrough better for that application? Just curious. I think people just have different tastes as well. I've read some comments where the user likes to escape into different scenes rather than see their environment. I get that too.

Yes, that latter one is me. Also using the Handy and I'm functionally dependent on it - I really can't get off any other way now; I guess haptics are to me what PT is to some people here. Personally, I have no desire to see my own body or room because neither is pleasant to look at. The PT effect is utterly unconvincing to me. I don't change positions during normal scenes, either, irrespective of the position. I usually just cherry-pick the bits I like (mostly cowgirl). That's my preference. Others have different preferences. It's all good as long as there's something for everyone. I am worried about the direction of travel, though, I won't lie about that.

mebejoe I'm curious: How does PT alienate a significant user base? Can't you watch the videos in non-PT mode? Are they not as good when you turn off PT?

Not if the male is wearing a blue / grey body suit and all you can see is his equipment, and the room is basically a blue/grey space.

mebejoe It looks like the top ten videos this month are PT videos. I doubt it's going away.

If AR is going to become the default here, as I said on a thread some months ago, then I will be unhappy and will probably have to look elsewhere for my porn. If it becomes the default everywhere, well then I guess I'm going back to 2D.

Now, if something that's being talked about here which is 'AI Passthrough' works out so that you can create scenes that satisfy PT fans while filming the scene 'as normal' so it can be viewed as a regular VR scene without weird artificial backgrounds etc, then my concerns will disappear. People will vote with their feet and wallets. If most people want PT then that's what the studios will end up doing most of the time. You can't swim against the tide. I hope I don't have to.

(BTW, if the stat of 'PT users' means 'anyone who's ever clicked a PT video', then I'm one of them, because I have, to see what all the fuss was about; but I'm definitely not a PT user and won't be.)

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          I'd be interested to see the data on Quest 3 user percentages.

          I've not seen a lot talk from users being blown away by this headset ?

          Has the passthrough had firmware updates since launch with any improvements ?

          Would love to hear feedback from Q3 users !

            Silly-Sausage I have a 2 and 3. To me there is not much difference in the 2 headsets. The biggest I guess is the color PT but I don't use it very much.
            The PT still looks like a pixelated version of my room but now in a colorish version. I bet the apple one is way better looking for PT if that is what you are looking for

                rerun119 Yeah, i'm actually enjoying the AI passthrough at the moment as the ones i requested, for me are amazing as it makes a massive difference having performers i like and the taboo talk makes these scenes incredible so i was potentially thinking of an upgrade but the price is still too high - I did read that Meta are going to release a lite version later in the year around half the price, but still not sure if that would be worth it if the only improvement is the passthrough - i may wait for Q4 to be released, but still interested in genuine feedback as i will probably give in to temptation.

                    Silly-Sausage Don't let me talk you out of it because I'm not a huge fan of PT. I have read and I am sure you have to about how much people love the color PT.
                    If that is your thing then you might really love it.

                        rerun119 No worries - the issue is money i guess, i could afford one, but £450 UK is alot to pay and happy to wait for the inevitable price reduction.

                            Silly-Sausage

                            I did read that Meta are going to release a lite version later in the year around half the price, but still not sure if that would be worth it if the only improvement is the passthrough

                            From what I've read, the Lite version doesn't have passthrough at all. It's basically a Quest 3 without the PT cameras and the pancake lenses will be replaced with Fresnel lenses.

                                obilisk2450 It's basically a Quest 3 without the PT cameras and the pancake lenses will be replaced with Fresnel lenses.

                                The lenses were one of the key upgrades vs the Quest 2 so going back to Fresnel lenses sounds silly to me. It sounds like a Quest 2+ lol.

                                  obilisk2450 From what I've read, the Lite version doesn't have passthrough at all. It's basically a Quest 3 without the PT cameras and the pancake lenses will be replaced with Fresnel lenses.

                                  Cheers for the info - i guess i won't be buying one of those then, it's almost as if they want to lose the VR porn market !

                                      Silly-Sausage I think all information you can find right now about the Q3 lite is rumors and not reliable. But clearly, a cheaper Q3 will have less or less great features than the regular Q3. My guess is that Meta will stop producing Q2 at some point and the Q3 lite will be the replacement for that price segment.

                                          SchnuppiLilac I think you're right in all respects - the main issue is if confirmed the removal of passthrough would be disastrous as that is the main selling point (for me) for upgrading from Q2 and a Quest Lite will keep the price of the Quest 3 inflated for longer.

                                          But at the end of the day, as you say nothing is confirmed.

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                                            Hide content stats distribution:
                                            61% have hidden at least one scene.
                                            34% have hidden at least one studio.
                                            25% have hidden at least one tag.
                                            9% have hidden at least one performer.

                                            I think PT/AR is more than a fad and is the future. The only thing holding PT back is people not yet getting a Quest 3. I have a suspicion that most PT haters have not tried PT yet. Once more Q3s go off the shelves, PT viewership and demand will only increase. The numbers are already pretty high considering now new the Q3 is.

                                            I wasn't interested in PT before I got my Q3, now its all I look for -not AI passthrough but high quality alpha PT.

                                            Also, I would be interested on metrics for people that use scripts had have sex toys.

                                              How do you hide studios? i've been trying to do that forever

                                              Also really surprised chlor surreal is on the hide list. She's basically an internet pervs dream. She looks like a hot anime chick basically