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  • SLR Originals reset plan - Nov '23

if Meta are not doing deep discounts for Black Friday/Cyber Monday, then I would expect that the sales trajectory for Quest3 is probably on par with what they were expecting. It's a fabulous headset. The more I use it, the more I enjoy it not just for porn and I am pretty sure at this stage I will not need the elite strap

petermc to be honest, most of them I don’t know either. I think the guy with the sleeve tattoo is called Oliver something but that’s about it. I just happen to know John Strong as he has been around in porn since the 1990’s. Oh and Tommy Gunn as well for the same reason. I don’t know if he’s been around as long as John Strong but they’re both old dudes, too old to be playing the boyfriends of teen girls.

Me too. All I know is gusto tattoo man does some good scenes in doggy with the girls. I checked a few of his and he is the best. I don't care how old he is.

Also on the point in other threads about the female stars enjoying the sex. I am not sure if this even comes into it as I believe money is the biggest incentive. Some girls are just better at giving you the illusion they are into it better than others. However, many will shoot for tadpole studios for the right price lol, even the beautiful Lily Lou.

      theHobbit oh yeah, no argument there, it is a job at the end of the day. I’m sure some days are more fun than others though if you’re with someone you’re genuinely attracted to rather than turning up at 18 years old and being paired with someone pushing 60 years old. On the flipside, it may be that the guy she’s attracted to is an asshole and it turns out to be a bad experience.

      As I say with all things, just mix it up, don’t have the same guy in every scene especially if he is utterly unremarkable in every way. LHVR use the same guy a lot but he is better than most VR guys as he can shoot a decent load every time. They generally have the best facials in VR so I understand why they stick with him.

      The tadpole thing is probably easy money. The guys are older and probably so grateful to get to be with a hot girl that they treat them incredibly well and never step out of line. They’re not porn dudes with giant dicks either so less chance of any injury. Some girls of course probably just like how dirty it is!

        petermc I think he’s poor most of the time.

        I think you don't know what you're ralking about. But ok, you're apparently into boring, non-intimate VR porn, basically the same cookie cutter stuff we get everywhere else. 😉

        petermc I’ve told you before why I don’t like him

        And I've told you before that while some of the stuff you say applies to some of his scenes his stuff actually does clicks when it clicks. True VR porn magic. On most other sites you've mentioned it rarely ever clicks even on a small margin. It's just standard VR porn, nothing exciting or especially intimate or interesting about it. You might enjoy it, sure, especially if you like the girl, but it doesn't get you going like only true intimate VR porn can. It's a mystery to me how somebody couldn't see and respect that.

              LordCrash It’s all subjective, you like his directing style (when it clicks) and I don’t but don’t try to make out that it’s all about how he shoots one position when you know that is not the case and don’t tell me what I like and don’t like.

              Just because you like something, it doesn’t make it better than stuff other people like. Alex Nash is not objectively better than anyone else just because you think he is. Other scenes are not “standard” compared to his genius just because you say so. If other studios scenes are standard then he falls short of that standard in my opinion, he doesn’t exceed it.

              You (and others) may find “VR magic” in what he does and feel more intimacy. I do not, I just find his stuff generally boring, badly shot and frustrating to watch as I can’t see anything half the time plus he focuses almost exclusively on cowgirl positions which get boring after 2 hours. It’s nothing to do with me not liking intimacy in VR, I just don’t like his style.

              Plenty of other scenes have great intimacy, are much more exciting, accentuate the girls body more and make better use of the time. VRPlayful made a 2 hour plus scene full of intimacy and it was light years ahead of anything Alex Nash has done in my opinion. As was their Veronica Leal squirting scene which was super intimate in another way. Not that a scene needs to be long to be interesting or intimate.

              As for cookie cutter, he does basically the same boring vanilla scene every time with the same camera angles, same weird fetishes, same male talent. Just swaps the girls around, many of whom are pretty similar too.

              At the end of the day though, you like him and that’s great, I wish I did too but unfortunately for me I don’t. That means when you say “we just want VRSpy style Alex Nash scenes” That’s not what I want at all. That’s also a bigger problem for me as there’s literally no one else working for SLR now apart from passthrough guy and, to be honest, none of the other directors they’ve had were much good either. I’m probably in the minority but I think Alex Mack was getting better and had much more variety in the models he chose so it’s a shame he’s been let go prematurely in my opinion. He wasn’t perfect by any means but I thought he was improving and was at least a contrast to what Nash is doing.

                  I just went through the slr-scences I've watched (the like-marker is actually my watched-marker) and was quite surprised how many scenes by which director I'v seen:

                  Alex Mack: 1
                  Well... Obviously I don't gel with his castings. This one scene was mediocre but I can't judge him solely based on that.

                  OnTheTelly: 10
                  Most of his scenes were good or great, some were misses. The variety of his scenes is definitely missed.

                  Simsense Media: 13
                  I was a bit surprised that quite a lot of my favorites were shot by Simsense. Which is bad for me as I don't care about passthrough at all.

                  Alex Nash: 18
                  For me Nash has the best castings. The scenes themselves are sometimes okay, sometimes good and sometimes great. But I have to admit that I'm a bit bored by his standard formula.

                  So yeah, with OnTheTelly gone and Simsense shooting mainly PT SLR has definitely lost attraction for me. In my opinion additional directors are sorely needed.

                    Cloud76 In my opinion additional directors are sorely needed.

                    Preferably capable directors with some experience and passion for what they do, and not just any random person that decides to try their hand at it.

                      petermc As for cookie cutter, he does basically the same boring vanilla scene every time with the same camera angles, same weird fetishes, same male talent. Just swaps the girls around, many of whom are pretty similar too.

                      No, he doesn't. Do you actually watch some of his scenes, especially his VRSpy scenes, or is this just some "I watched two scenes from him two years ago and now I just claim that every other scene of him was exactly the same" kind of argument? I do understand that you don't like his style and that's fine but stating that he did cookie cutter standard scenes is simply a ridiculous claim. If you blame him for doing that you must basically blame almost everybody else in the industry to do the same, only to a bigger extend - which is a pretty pointless statement to begin with.

                      Please show me directors from the sites you mentioned who feature intense girl-girl kissing, shared boy-girl pussy licking, footplay, creampie cleanups etc. on a regular basis. Well, to make it short, you can't. 95% of the stuff on the sites you mentioned consists of a small intro, some standard positions in a standard setting, cumshot, done.

                      VRplayful is good, never doubted that. But to bring up a studio with basically 3 scenes on the menu as the big example why Nash is so horrible is pretty hilarious. So Nash is bad because VRplayful is maybe even a bit better?

                      But yes, my statement that "we basically want SLR to be like VRSpy" was a bit over the top, was pretty obvious actually. I already mentioned that I want to have different directors on SLR as well. You know that I miss onthetelly, for example. But my statement wasn't more over the top or inappropriate than your "Nash is a terrible director". So before you lecture me on personal taste and everything else, take your own best advice. Like you told me, Nash isn't a terrible director just because you say so.

                        I believe I said “I think” he’s a terrible director. It was not stated as a fact but a subjective opinion. You saying, if I don’t like Alex Nash, I must like boring, standard, non-intimate cookie cutter porn is not. That’s you saying that only your own taste counts and people who disagree don’t know what they’re talking about.

                        I also never said his scenes are the same as everyone else’s. I said he repeats himself and makes the same stuff over and over. The same camera angles, same fetishes, same male talent, same vanilla sex and even a lot of similar looking girls. His scenes are cookie cutter as they have a formula and most look and feel the same.

                        VRPlayful were brought up to show that liking intimate porn and not liking Alex Nash are not mutually exclusive. I can appreciate intimate porn scenes and longer scenes when done in an exciting and interesting way. I’m not declaring them as the GOAT based on 3 scenes, that would be silly.

                        I will leave it there now though, it’s silly to be arguing over porn. None of it is Shakespeare is it?!! All it really boils down to is that you like his porn and, generally speaking, I don’t. We can agree to disagree.

                          vrguy69 I appreciate you challenging that. I may have typed that and sent too soon. In my humble opinion the next wave of new subscribers would most likely use Q3 Sue to price point and convenience. It's even mentioned as the best device to view VR porn in the SLR guide.

                          I too am curious what that data looks like. I'm also interested how it evolved overtime. Content will definitely impact the innovation of hardware and as content creators keep pushing the boundaries, hardware will inevitably have to catch up 😁

                            petermc You saying, if I don’t like Alex Nash, I must like boring, standard, non-intimate cookie cutter porn is not.

                            Obviously you don't understand the meaning of a smiley and when somebody is just poking you with a stick... 🙁

                            petermc I also never said his scenes are the same as everyone else’s. I said he repeats himself and makes the same stuff over and over. The same camera angles, same fetishes, same male talent, same vanilla sex and even a lot of similar looking girls. His scenes are cookie cutter as they have a formula and most look and feel the same.

                            If that's true for Nash it's true for every single VR director out there, only to a bigger extend. Show me one porn director who doesn't repeat himself with basically every single scene. Yes, there's armpit action in almsot every one of his scenes but only on top of what everybody else is doing. It just adds to the menu. How's that worse than simply doing blowjob -cowgirl - reverse cowgirl - doggy - closeup mish, mish, cumshot - done like 99% of all VR scenes work? I don't get why you specifically blame Nash for being repetitive when his scenes include a lot more stuff than most others scenes out there. I asked before and I ask again: Which mainstream director e.g. adds footplay to quite a few of his scenes? I don't know any and I guess I watch more VR porn than you. And no, I don't accept VRPlayful again as an answer for everything, you already played that part.

                            I understand that you have reasons for not liking Nash like positions, angles, not enough anal, too much John Strong or whatever. Might be more than one reason, I actually don't care. But blaming him for repetition in an industry that is rifled with even much more repetiton is simply hilarious. That's like blaming France for having a boring cuisine when Great Britain is just a small leap across the pond...

                            Do actually watch for example his latest VRSpy scene with Melody Marks and then come back to this place. I do wonder if you'll still telling me to the face that all his porn looks and feels the same or is "formulaic" (beyond VR porn's formulaic nature itself) or even boring. Like what the heck?

                            petermc I will leave it there now though, it’s silly to be arguing over porn.

                            That's the whole point of this forum, lol. If arguing over porn is silly for you you definitely shouldn't have made an account in the first place... 🤣

                            petermc We can agree to disagree.

                            No, we can't, at least not on the statements you make. It's always easy to make bold statements and then act like it's all settled and dealt with. Well, it's not.

                                    Cool, you’ve said your piece, as have I. We don’t agree with each other, that’s ok. Argument over.

                                      petermc said he repeats himself and makes the same stuff over and over. The same camera angles, same fetishes, same male talent, same vanilla sex and even a lot of similar looking girls. His scenes are cookie cutter as they have a formula and most look and feel the same.

                                      correct. take VRSpy

                                      Hazel Moore X 2
                                      Madison Wilde X 2
                                      Melody Marks X 2
                                      Blake Blossom X 3
                                      Layla Jenner X 2

                                      No imagination unfortunately. Just formulaic. He regurgitates the same girls with slightly different faces and similar body types to appease a few drama queens who worship him. Imagine making your casting choices on the whims of 5 or 6 toxic characters who hardly ever have a positive word to say about SLR lol

                                      His scenes remind me of the Badoink formula who cast similar women. However at least Badoink mix it up from time to time - Mandy Muse, Jessica Starling, Angie Faith, Emma Magnolia etc who ordinarily would be shot by Alex Mack for SLR. Nash wouldn't know what to do with these hotties.

                                          theHobbit He regurgitates the same girls with slightly different faces and similar body types to appease a few drama queens who worship him. Imagine making your casting choices on the whims of 5 or 6 toxic characters who hardly ever have a positive word to say about SLR lol

                                          Or..... or..... and I know this might be a pretty wild take but still hear me out: Perhaps he just shoots certain girls more frequently because... I don't know... he likes shooting those certain girls personally?

                                              Hairsational not correct. I enjoy all the girls I listed above too and they have smashing bodies. I have always said that there should be a diversity in the types of performers that SLR cast. However, happy to give some pointers when casting these women which should be obvious for the likes of Nash and yet never get implemented.

                                              Hazel Moore and Madison Wilde have sexy long hair. Utilise it.

                                              Blake Blossom. If VR is supposed to be like real. Imagine being with a woman who giggles through the entire episode of sex. You would probably be left with a complex about your penis size. Maybe Blake should pretend that she is feeling the dick more. She is capable of this in her 2D scenes but in 3D she performs in exactly the same way.

                                              Layla Jenner. Somebody needs to pound her fantastic ass hard in doggy and provide her with a variety of things to say during sex

                                              Melody Marks - too cute to criticise in any way but her first scene with Wankz with the mirror will always be my favourite.

                                              AlterEgo Or..... or..... and I know this might be a pretty wild take but still hear me out: Perhaps he just shoots certain girls more frequently because... I don't know... he likes shooting those certain girls personally?

                                              Nah - he has a subscription to Badoink lol

                                                    theHobbit Bro I see you writing essays everywhere and nobody ever agrees with you. You've written books worth, pointlessly arguing with people
                                                    I kindly request you to stop.

                                                    Sincerely,

                                                    Everyone

                                                        theHobbit That's pretty much my 5 favorite girls and i love the giggly girls, it's a major turn on when a girl is obviously having fun during sex

                                                          So how is this change going? Upcoming scenes section is consisting full of boring vanilla scenes.