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theHobbit I don't think anybody in their right mind would subscribe individually to multiple independent sites

theHobbit Why on earth would I subscribe to VRBangers or Badoink

well once again, I could not possibly agree with you less. I do sub to Bangers, Badoink, RealJam, 18VR, VirtualTaboo, Stripz… and Wankz, POVR, and the new sites, PornCorn and VRSpy… whether their content lands over here or not, I gladly pay them for what they’re doing. Am I in my right mind to do this? Maybe, maybe not. What the fuck difference does that make?

The reason I do is because I’m all for as much competition as possible to sites like this that in their arrogance try to assimilate everything else and dictate what we can and can’t see. I hope one by one all third party sites manage to break free from the grasp of SLR. Once again I don’t often agree with @petermc but he’s right when he says the grip SLR has on VR right now is unhealthy. Let there be competition. The more the better for we as consumers.

        argyle43 Am I in my right mind to do this?

        No.

        However if you can afford it then plough your money into duplicate content lol, some people are a bit wiser than that with their cash. Like with all the money you are saving you could probably have the vision pro pay for itself after a couple of years.

            argyle43 Wow, and I thought I was hardcore with a SLR + scripts, POVR and the occasional other site

              petermc

              Yeah for sure the VR requirements for hardware and filming technique is much higher than 2D so not for everyone. Imo it's only worth filming VR if it's done to a high standard - otherwise it's better to stick with 2D videos.

              I think SLR use ZCamK2 Pro camera which is $6k new so imo it's not super super out of reach for small studios, finance/loan should be possible right?

              I've seen a bunch of smaller studios that would have had amazing content if it were in better quality, for example..
              https://www.sexlikereal.com/studios/blush-erotica
              https://www.sexlikereal.com/studios/peeping-thom

              I can see both sides of the aggregator argument tbh, SLR being an aggregator can feel like it's stifling competition but on the other hand, it allows small studios to grow as they don't need to invest in their own website/billing system etc. They simply upload the videos and SLR take care of everything else.

              Customers only have so much money to spend each month on porn, so it's unrealistic to expect people to sub to many sites.

              Studios delaying SLR uploads is one tactic to try and encourage people subbing to their own website and kind of smart.

              At the end of the day i'd say it's definitely a win for customers and small studios that aggregator websites exist so long as they offer fair and transparent payouts to studios.

              Also, if a studio has their own website then they are not bound by certain content rules (incest for example) that SLR must abide by due to payment processor rules, we all know how popular incest is in porn, that's a giant niche that seems untapped in VR.

                  argyle43 Once again I don’t often agree with @petermc but he’s right when he says the grip SLR has on VR right now is unhealthy. Let there be competition. The more the better for we as consumers.

                  Careful now! We’re getting dangerously close to being best friends 🤣🤣.

                  I’m pleased though that you also subscribe to other sites. We all should support the content we enjoy if we can afford to do so or we could lose it.

                    jommy agreed, it’s not all bad. I’m sure SLR are a help to small independent studios starting out. It’s just a shame that the VR Porn industry and customer base doesn’t seem to be able to support many of those studios to ever feel financially secure enough to leave the nest and go out on their own. If we have reached a point that new sites are not possible, as was suggested, that is not a healthy state of affairs in my opinion, certainly not something to crow about as DoubleVR seemed to be.

                    I think the fact that none of the major porn producers followed Naughty America into VR probably speaks volumes for how difficult it is to make it work financially. If Brazzers, Evil Angel and their ilk don’t feel there’s money in it, what hope a small outfit starting from scratch?

                      theHobbit every bit as much as you imagine… and worth every last penny to me. Independent producers, lots of them, and a liquid market with plenty of competition is good for all of us. Giant monopolistic Borg-like behemoths dominating the landscape, yea, not so good.

                          argyle43 what's your financial outlay each year with all those sites?

                          Understand your justification. What's the yearly financial outlay you are spending on VR porn?

                          If you are shy or hesitant to say lol, please provide instead what percentage of your monthly income is spent on supporting VR porn. Shouldn't be to hard to quantify that.

                              argyle43 I’m neither. I’m just not about to share that kind of information about myself with you. Back off already.

                              weren't you the chap who was insinuating that I was on the payroll of @doublevr ?

                              Now you are crying about me speaking about finances with you lol.

                                I'm really surprised by the stuff people missed in this thread. Adult Time are a 2D titan and soon after some customer surveys last year they immediately pivot to signing on VR studios. Swallowbay was literally one of the first VR studios Adult Time signed on. They already had comprehensive toy feedback for their 2D content which works immediately with their VR content - which means i think they already have like 1000 VR scripted videos thats all inclusive. But after trying it the issue is they have poor UX within VR web browsers, which is why SLR comes out on top with DeoVR support.

                                So yes, why SLR has 25,000 videos and the best originals around, Adult Time are moving full steam ahead, SLR's only other competitor POVR has poorer usability but they do happen to have around 1000 videos from Virtual Taboo and if you're a virtual taboo fan POVR can sometimes feel worth it instead of just having a Virtual Taboo subscription. Honestly if SLR could get Virtual Taboo it would be a killer blow imo, Virtual Taboo have 3 updates a week and despite not even being interested in the fetish myself, the casting quality is superb.

                                Anyway, that's my take as a fan - Adult Time is a new player that's aggressive and POVR's only value is Virtual Taboo imo

                                  Misgolas Honestly if SLR could get Virtual Taboo it would be a killer blow imo

                                  I feel like that's unlikely given the history between the two.

                                  Misgolas the casting quality is superb

                                  They have the best european casting if you ask me.

                                        Hairsational i wasn't aware of the history - it just always seemed like a crude imitation i guess.

                                          Misgolas POVR's only value is Virtual Taboo

                                          I don't expect that Virtual Taboo will give up exclusivity and start sharing their entire catalog with any aggregator. I don't think there are any full VT videos on POVR, these are only previews. VRPorn has a small selection of full videos but only older ones.

                                              Misgolas POVR's only value is Virtual Taboo imo

                                              I’m not aware of POVR having any Virtual Taboo videos. If they do, it must be a long time ago. I subscribe there for WankzVR and POVR Premium scenes. MilfVR has the odd decent scene too.

                                                SchnuppiLilac Right, thats because their content is actually top notch and they probably manage just fine on their own taking in 100% of their subscriptions. I only see studios who are not quite performing as well as they hoped or anticipated participating with sites like SLR to help them distribute. Also anyone looking to save on hosting expenses as well can simply offload their entire catalogue to this site to manage instead lol

                                                    Misgolas 1000 video from virtual tabool ? sure? Or only trailer : have you a subscription to be sure? Because idem for czech.vr: 955 video: full or only trailer