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doublevr Otherswise he has been resistant so far.

Maybe because Mr Nash still has some artistic vision for his products and doesn't want to produce cookie-cutter vanilla passthrough stuff? Must be super cool to shoot porn in these green-screen warehouse settings, such an improvement for everyone involved in production. I heard models are loving it, too, so intimate to shoot...

So why would you take one of the best VR creators out there and put him into an artistic cage with this extremely limited AR stuff? Didn't you tell us that VR (yes, VR, not AR) scenes would still be produced on SLR? By whom? Nash puts out like 4 scenes a month or sometimes just 1. So these rare VR scenes are to be scrapped for even more AR? Why are you at least not honest with your customers that you don't give a fuck about VR anymore and actually only want to produce AR stuff? You can't tell us with a straight face in one post that VR scenes would always be a primary focus on SLR while telling us in another post that AR was the future of VR and everybody should produce for AR , even your best VR directors who are desperately needed for VR prodcution. This is madness. Actual VR is in straight decline on SLR.

doublevr Some people will never change though.

Indeed. You are a good example for that. You'll never listen to your customers and stop mocking them if they don't agree with you.

I'm also a good example. I'll just love watching actual VR porn and I'll never stop fighting for better and more VR porn.

doublevr It's definitely the future of vr.

Passthrough IS NO VR. It CANNOT be the future of VR because it's not VR but AR. It's just something different.

So AR won't be the future of VR just like VR wasn't and never will be the future of traditional 2d porn.

What is so hard to understand about that? Somebody working in this busines should know the difference.

Rustam1990 Yes BUT... not compromising VR scene quality. I get that all the hype is PT (even getting Nash to try out), but at the same I do not want the nonPT VR scenes that used to make SLRO great be dimished/sacrificed because of it.

It's already happening. There was ONE VR scene by Nash released on SLR in the last 4 weeks. The rest was just passthrough stuff and Naughty America style Mack VR content. Apparently all the old customers of SLR are gone and most people now want to watch AR porn and milfy models with a lot of make up and enhancements around here. Or maybe SLR just wants us old customers to be gone for whatever reason, I don't know...

argyle43 troll away pal.

Just ignore him. I do so as well and it works like a charm.

              Let's start a new social media campaign:

              #FreeNash

              I tend to believe that Mr. Nash could produce better VR porn almost everywhere else, without somebody telling him that he isn't allowed to shoot taboo content anymore and that he should scenes in front of a green-screen now...

                argyle43 troll away pal. Go visit Wankz forum or simply pay attention on this site. If you don’t want to see it I sure af can’t help you. Pass through sucks great big donkey dicks. But it’s dirt cheap to make so of course double loves it. More money in his pockets.

                so no quantifiable evidence presented at all lol. Tell you what I had your numbers for quite a while at the grand sum of 5. I will now up that number to a massive 6 of you lol which now includes you and your 'sucking great donkey dicks' hahah

                LordCrash Just ignore him. I do so as well and it works like a charm.

                you love me really lol. 🙂

                    Sometimes I'll browse the "Now Hiring" thread to see what positions are available and I'll see something I'm qualified for. I think about it for a second and then I'm reminded that every time someone leaves SLR it's "fuck them, they were shit and we're moving on without them".

                      argyle43 Go visit Wankz forum or simply pay attention on this site. If you don’t want to see it I sure af can’t help you. Pass through sucks great big donkey dicks.

                      Sometimes everyone misses things, know I do all the time. For example, I assume you've missed the nonstop threads here, across reddit, twitter, and even a few in the Wankzvr forum talking about how amazing the Passthrough experience on the Quest 3 is? "Eye of the beholder", I know. But saying no one likes it is silly.

                      LordCrash Passthrough IS NO VR. It CANNOT be the future of VR because it's not VR but AR. It's just something different.

                      So AR won't be the future of VR just like VR wasn't and never will be the future of traditional 2d porn.

                      What is so hard to understand about that? Somebody working in this busines should know the difference.

                      Call it whatever you'd like tbh, it's only semantics. Passthrough is increasingly growing in popularity, utilizes a VR headset, and will continue to be produced by us and almost certainly other studios 🤷‍♂️

                      petergriff Sometimes I'll browse the "Now Hiring" thread to see what positions are available and I'll see something I'm qualified for. I think about it for a second and then I'm reminded that every time someone leaves SLR it's "fuck them, they were shit and we're moving on without them".

                      People who leave jobs tend to leave for a reason. Some of us happen to enjoy working here quite a lot 😉

                              doublevr Going passthrough was one of the best strategic decisions as everyone is watching these with quest 3 release. Getting Mr. Nash to try it out 🔥

                              Well... I mean, sure, everyone is trying it out right now because of the new headset release. I, myself, someone who has never tried PT before, have been experimenting with it for the past 4 days. My initial impression on Day 1 was really disappointing, and not at all what the hype made me believe... And sure, people are going to try it out because they are curious, they want to add some variety/spark in their porn habits, and because it's the "new thing." But if SLR becomes a completely PT-centric studio, then it's a damn waste of VR directors like Alex Nash.

                              doublevr Otherswise he has been resistant so far.

                              Hopefully quest 3 passthrough madness will get him more into it.

                              This speaks volumes right here, and quite frankly surprised you would share this.

                              Regarding PT in general... Since Tuesday, I've experimented more with the help of some of the members here ( @Hurto11 and @Vrsumo2017 ). What's interesting is... though I still don't really enjoy it, I found SOME satisfaction from watching VREdging scenes with custom PT (50 Hue, 100 Sat/Bright, 500+ Range). And actually, generally speaking, I found the more traditional VR scenes that are PT-able due to the lighting/background conditions of the room, were far more enjoyable than the green-screen produced scenes by SimSense. The green screen room is really limiting, as ironic as that sounds. Nothing feels natural about it, in the slightest. Whereas other normally produced VR scenes hit the mark a little better when using custom PT settings. Also, I think having a floating dick (that's obviously not mine) in the PT-scenes is way more immersion-breaking than just seeing the male torso with his dick in place of mine. Also, that won't require perfect alignment every single time.

                              Anyways, overall, my point is: Fine, I understand, PT is here to stay. I can't argue that, and there are many people that love it (for example when I had level-headed conversations with @Hurto11 and @Vrsumo2017 I understand this is an amazing experience for them). But if you are trying to force PT-green-screen scenes on all your directors, especially Alex Nash, at the same time hearing the news that there will be potentially no more Nash scenes on VRSpy, while simultaneously here at SLR we've only had 1 Nash scene in the last 25 releases... I mean, that's just got to be the most depressing shit I've heard all year.

                              (PS: Just a random idea: but instead of forcing Nash to shoot a PT scene, maybe he can just shoot his bread-and-butter type of scene, but just have the location / lighting be in a place where creating a PT version in post-production or within the DeoVR app will be possible. That way we don't get the sterile feeling and vibe that all these green-screen scenes so far have, and all fanbases can still enjoy Nash's scenes the way he wants them to be consumed. There is a reason why people fell in love with VRSpy right off the bat, and it's 100% because of Nash's signature style.)

                                    Hairsational It's called hyperbole

                                    Also semantics, my dude. You say it's "hyperbolic", I say "inaccurate". Both can be correct.

                                    And every day I strive to be more like Harold, so thank you 😘

                                        justsomedude101 Also semantics, my dude. You say it's "hyperbolic", I say "inaccurate". Both can be correct.

                                        Point is, it's figure of speech that is not intended to be taken literally – and you are taking it literally.

                                          justsomedude101 saying no one likes it is silly

                                          I have respect for you, so not interested to quibble except to say that’s not ever what I said. I think the PT divide is as real as MILF vs nubiles, tits vs. ass, hands/ no hands, you name it. I also feel there has been a ridiculous imbalance of this content to the actual VR that a lot of us subscribed for and is systematically being driven out. I say good luck to SLR if they really think this is the future of porn. I can’t vote with my dollars - already locked into what was a very expensive LT sub, bought when it seemed this company believed in the casting Phil gave us, as shot by Nash’s vision. Sad to see what that has turned into these days. I’d say VRSpy is where it’s at now, but from what your dictator leader implies above, that too is going to be annihilated by the Borg. Apparently afraid of the competition. Such a shame.

                                            g2kbuffetboy there will be potentially no more Nash scenes on VRSpy, while simultaneously here at SLR we've only had 1 Nash scene in the last 25 releases... I mean, that's just got to be the most depressing shit I've heard all year

                                              Passthrough may be the future of porn but it is not the present. Even with colour, it’s much too restrictive, fiddly and non-immersive. If the “like” figures are to be believed though, lots of people seem to like it so I guess it makes sense to carry on producing it. I think you’ll find that you will begin to drive people away if it gets much more prevalent than it already is.

                                              I will also say this to some of the other comments, the last two Alex Mack scenes with Danielle Renae and Sinatra Monroe were pretty hot. I’ll take those over Nash every day of the week, I’ve no idea why he’s so hero worshipped on here. His scenes are often technically poor, plus his weird armpit fascination and now his new ridiculous looking POV kissing thing where we’re not even in the room. On top of that we have the same boring unimpressive male performer in almost every scene. Let him go to VRSpy so I can just ignore their scenes instead of SLRs.

                                                LordCrash Let's start a new social media campaign:

                                                #FreeNash

                                                I tend to believe that Mr. Nash could produce better VR porn almost everywhere else, without somebody telling him that he isn't allowed to shoot taboo content anymore and that he should scenes in front of a green-screen now...

                                                Looks like nobody is supporting you. People have supported you before and got banned as a result. There was nothing from you defending them. You must be a great friend in RL

                                                  Producers at SLR have infinite freedom. They can shoot whoever they want how they want it, etc

                                                  petermc Let [Nash] go to VRSpy so I can just ignore their scenes instead of SLR

                                                  Well I never thought I’d agree with this guy (petermc) on anything, but yes, #FreeNash. Let him go to VRSpy and continue producing the quality VR that hasn’t been seen on SLR with any consistency for so long. In one month I’ve seen far more goodness from that site than I’ve seen on SLRO for now well over a year. Let Nash go. Do it for the good of VR.

                                                      argyle43 Well I never thought I’d agree with this guy on anything

                                                      One of the six are caveating their support lol

                                                          theHobbit caveating their support

                                                          except your count is as off as your attempts at being witty.

                                                              justsomedude101 Call it whatever you'd like tbh, it's only semantics.

                                                              No, it's not. Double said that AR porn was the future of VR porn which is simply wrong. Objectively wrong. It's as wrong as saying that VR porn was the future of 2d porn. It's something different. So no, it's not only semantics, it's about correcting false statements in your customer communication. You can produce as much AR pron content as you want, it's your business. But no matter how popular AR porn is, it's not a substitution for VR porn like double claimed. That's the point.

                                                                petermc ’ve no idea why he’s so hero worshipped on here.

                                                                Because he understands the concept of intimacy and the very nature of VR and is able to produce that speical (but kind of hard to describe) "VR porn magic" in at least some of his releases, especially with two or three girls in it. There are a lot of VR directors who can't shoot intimate porn at all. You are right about the technical hiccups, the armpit fetish, the male perfomer etc. in Nash's scnees, especially in the last months on SLRO. Still, nothing of that is really important for me in scenes in which Nash let his magic shine and in which you just marvel at the action in from of you. That's why I root for him because there is at least a slight chance that his next scene might be the next banger.

                                                                petermc the last two Alex Mack scenes with Danielle Renae and Sinatra Monroe were pretty hot.

                                                                Maybe it would help if Mack didn't shoot milfs with fake tits and way too much make-up in 80% of his scenes. You might like that but that's not what we're used to have on SLR and what a lot of us subscribed for in the first place. If I want to watch Milf VR porn in that style, I can go over to Naughty America. It's hard to see any redeeming value in SLRO lately if you're not into AR porn and enhanced milfs...