SLR Party Riots

doublevr I wasn't aware that watersports is allowed again on SLR, my apologies. How about family taboo terms in scene titles?

My thoughts

1. You cannot hire Jimmy, aka the Harvey Weinstein of porn, that would be commercial and ethical suicide and would be the worst marketing mistake in your history by a huge margin. Hopefully that was a bad joke.

2. AR means augmented reality, and can apply to 2d. VR means virtual reality. Passthrough is both AR (real world is incorporated into the image) and VR (2 independent images shown to replicate perception of the real world). The terms are not mutually exclusive. Perhaps we should be using the term "AVR" - Augmented Virtual Reality?

3. The comparison to the early days of NA are to show that developments in technology often meet strong resistance and there is an inability in many to see how the tech might evolve into something worthwhile. Early VR was dog shit. Early passthrough was dog shit. It has improved. Passthrough now is where VR porn was in 2016. You have to go through this stage of development to achieve a desirable outcome. Some of us enjoy PT, I'd say most would at least concede that the idea has promise.

4. Passthrough may technically be VR but it is an entirely different beast from regular VR because you remove any pretence of context. It's JUST THE PORN. No location, no romance or mystery. It's like comparing an action movie to a UFC match - they both feature fighting but in the movie we understand why.

5. Because of (4) a creative director like Alex Nash is wasted on passthrough, which is at heart a technical exercise. And worse, you would be alienating your talent instead of nurturing them. Again, to continue the metaphor, you'd be hiring Martin Scorsese to direct UFC. Please accept that PT is a massively technical endeavor, because it's falling short on the technical side above all. Stunt cock in the wrong place, scaling, masking, light, all that should be worked on now.

6. While UFC has its place, you're trying to be the Netflix of porn, not ESPN. So the full VR experience with locations and context should, I think, continue to be the main focus. Tech companies can get distracted from their core mission. Innovation is fun! But it's important to balance innovation with tried and tested products which are loved by your audience. No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. But, your innovations are also your USP, so please do continue your great work with PT and scripts etc.

Thanks for all your efforts, most of us do appreciate it.

vrpicasso

vrpicasso The comparison to the early days of NA are to show that developments in technology often meet strong resistance and there is an inability in many to see how the tech might evolve into something worthwhile. Early VR was dog shit.

The other thing about that comparison to early days of NA is that when they heavily invested in it, they made it a separate subscription long before the VR vids became 50% or more of new releases. They didn't mock their customers and tell them to deal with it, and they didn't allow trolls in their discussion boards to do so, either.

Also, your point number 4 cannot be overstated. It may "technically" be VR (though I don't agree), but it is so dissimilar that acting as if you are selling the same product when you replace one with the other is just insulting to customers.

I think they don't want to make it a separate studio because they know that it really isn't in demand yet, and want to keep the VR subscribers paying for it - which is fairly unethical and why the argument persists. And the PT users who don't want it split into another studio do it for selfish reasons too - they like it, but don't want to pay an additional sub for it (or replace the VR sub with it). Instead they both argue that AR is the "future" of VR porn - it isn't. VR didn't put flat porn out of business, nor will it any time soon. AR is not going to make VR obsolete, either. Or they argue that AR is essentially the same - it isn't, as you did an explemplary job explaining above. Or they tell us to satisfy ourselves with all of the past releases that outnumber the newer passthrough stuff - as if we subscribed for the back catalog.

Either way, it feels like the company is dealing the longtime VR subs dirty. The gripes are legitimate, and there should be some reasonable, serious attention paid to them. Instead, they seem to enjoy trolling and rubbing our noses in it.

Internet culture, I guess - but not a very ethical or honorable way to run a business.

doublevr Generaly I refrain for posting any negative commentary here, but for once I seriously hope that you will reconsider the decision with MrLifesyles. You can not brand your company as Sexual Wellness and bring someone with a background like his. This is a very bad signal, and something that in no point I want to be part of it.

Hairsational Maybe you like him doesn't understand.

The argument he is making is Why do Amazon sell other stuff instead of just books?
Why do supermarkets sell other stuff instead of just food?

Ridiculous statements as usual from the drama queens who decry they are being trolled for their nonsense. Business models change all the time. Cope.

It's the same people making these same arguments - just on burner accounts.

theHobbit I’ve really lost interest engaging you because you truly are a troll, you’ve said it yourself. So this is to point out just one aspect of the regular flaws in your arguments not to mention your incorrect data.

In a retail scenario, customers are typically making one-time purchases or can choose what to buy each time. If they don’t like the new offerings, they can ignore them. For a subscription, users are paying regularly for consistent access to content. A drastic change in that content affects the entire value proposition of their ongoing payment or what they already paid on good faith - very much the case for annual and lifetime subs.

Go ahead now, get your snarky response in there. Can’t wait.

You have got to be a pretty big degenerate to want to troll on a virtual reality passthrough porn forum.

Generally speaking.

argyle43 Trolling is like loud truck exhausts - making a lot of noise to get attention. Don't reinforce his behavior and he'll go look for attention elsewhere.

argyle43 Never mind - you know the reasons well enough.

Yep. Again like the loud trucks: if you've gotta be loud, you're not well endowed.